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Top Secret America grows out of control
StarTribune.com ^ | 7/19/10 | DANA PRIEST and WILLIAM M. ARKIN , Washington Post

Posted on 07/19/2010 6:24:08 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo

The top secret world the government created in response to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become so large, so unwieldy and so secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs, how many programs exist within it or exactly how many agencies do the same work.

These are some of the findings of a two-year investigation by the Washington Post that discovered what amounts to an alternative geography of the United States, a Top Secret America hidden from public view and lacking in thorough oversight. After nine years of unprecedented spending and growth, the result is that the system put in place to keep the United States safe is so massive that its effectiveness is impossible to determine.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; google; intelligence; marxism; obama
Follow the money.....
1 posted on 07/19/2010 6:24:10 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

As opposed to DHS? Anything in the federal government?


2 posted on 07/19/2010 6:26:40 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Is this WaPo’s excuse for releasing the intelligence information they are set to release this week? Lame attempt....=.=


3 posted on 07/19/2010 6:37:41 AM PDT by cranked
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

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4 posted on 07/19/2010 6:41:28 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; Beckwith; LucyT; mojitojoe; hennie pennie; TigersEye
Noyt to be alarmists, but the nationalist socialist party of Obmama has seized these extraordinary powers, redefined terorists into criminals , and is preparing to turn these top secret tools on the American people themselves. You can see it in the health care bill enforcement provisions, the new international restrictive bank usage rules which apply to ordinary Americans under the guise of taxation, and anti-money laundering. We are actually in dire straits , as our freedoms and liberty are being slowly removed.And when Americans resist, what will happen? Well lets just say that the government has a data base of the GPS location of every citizens home thanks to the 2009 pre-census.The use of that data base is unsupervised by Congress, because the census now runs out of the White House as a strictly executive function ( no matter what they might say about it.) It can be used and abused ( satellite surveillance, drone surveillance , home search without warrant without even contacting local sheriffs) and no one even can know about it.Of course that whole scenario constitutes ureasonable search and seizure contrary to the 4th amendment of the constitution.

America is actually in trouble. Very few are talking about it.The institutions that would usually keep a watch on such things have been taken over by leftist nationalist socialists, such as the ACLU and the NAACP. The press is traduced and cannot even tell fact from fiction. Each of us is pretty much on their own.

The Nov. 2d election will tell the tale of a fallen America, ,or one which rejects the nationalist socialist utopia.

5 posted on 07/19/2010 6:56:25 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is facist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

This whole ‘expose’ was done with the approval of the Obama Administration. Why you may ask? This is going to be the excuse for Obama and the democrats to gut our military,CIA, NSA and various other intelligence and defense programs. They do it everytime they get in power. This is all a big ruse to give the marxists cover to slash defense spending and ‘spread the wealth’ to their cronies.


6 posted on 07/19/2010 7:00:54 AM PDT by penelopesire ("Did you plug the hole yet daddy?")
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

0bamao is sharing our secrets, like number of warheads, with his comrades as fast as he can. It’s only the American people who are not allowed to know what the government has about them.


7 posted on 07/19/2010 7:10:18 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The usurper 0bama regime is a "Clear and Present Danger" to AMERICA! - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
The Serious Tracking of Americans Begins thread

They have passed the health bill, they have passed the financial regulations bill and they have snuck stuff into the stimulus package bills. They are going to track your money and your body. Here's the first few things they are doing. This is step one. It will only get worse from here.

8 posted on 07/19/2010 7:15:38 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: penelopesire
gut our military,CIA, NSA and various other intelligence

Dem Traitors know that many in those fields cannot be "controlled" so they want to destroy their effectiveness. There are elements of those services that you should be cautious when jabbing with a stick. "RecordsGate" is long long overdue.

9 posted on 07/19/2010 7:25:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Candor7
‘the nationalist socialist party of Obmama’

Not to quibble too much, but, it would be nice if Obama was a little ‘nationalist’.

As it is, he is not, nor is any party.

There is no party looking out for America. Nationalism, as putting America first, is dead.

Also, the build up in contracts and security is not to keep America safe, but to expand the big brother society; both parties are responsible for that as well.

10 posted on 07/19/2010 7:27:56 AM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: cranked

Good call. I would say yes.


11 posted on 07/19/2010 7:33:42 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Candor7
How many resources are going to monitoring the general public.

from post article

..More building, more expansion of offices continues across the country. A $1.7 billion NSA data-processing center will be under construction soon near Salt Lake City. In Tampa, the U.S. Central Command’s new 270,000-square-foot intelligence office will be matched next year by an equally large headquarters building, and then, the year after that, by a 51,000-square-foot office just for its special operations section.

Janet Napolitano has Veterans, Patriots and people that disagree with this administration as threats.

She released a DSH memo in 2009...
---The DHS report warns law enforcement to be on guard against anyone who opposes illegal immigration, same-sex marriage, “free trade agreements,” gun control, the “New World Order,” “One World Government,” the outsourcing of American jobs, the “perceived” threat to U.S. sovereignty by foreign powers, abortion, “declarations of martial law,” “the creation of citizen detention camps,” “suspension of the U.S. Constitution,” or the abridgement of State authority. Also branded are people who believe in “end times” prophecies, and who “stockpile” food, ammunition, or firearms. Disgruntled Military Veterans.

from We Are All Extremists Now, 2009

12 posted on 07/19/2010 7:39:20 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Follow the authors

Now who would want to willfully damage American intelligence gathering ?

Simple answer, the authors, Dana Priest and William M. Arkin .

Dana Priest and William Arkin have long history of leaking vital national security secrets, as well as publishing agit-prop to advance their own causes.

The Washington Post’s Dana Priest received the 2006 Pulitzer Prize for beat reporting “for her persistent, painstaking reports on secret ‘black site’ prisons and other controversial features of the government’s counterterrorism campaign.” Never mind that to this day there is no evidence that these ‘secret CIA prisons’ ever existed.

But perhaps Dana Priest has her own agenda. She is a ‘peace scholar’ for the United States Institute of Peace. She is also married to William Goodfellow, who is the Executive Director of the the Center for International Policy (CIP).

Here is a little background from Discover The Networks about the Center For International Policy:

http://97.74.65.51/Printable.aspx?ArtId=11573

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6991

America’s Red Army

One of the most sophisticated of Fenton’s anti-war projects is the co-mingling of Win Without War and the Center for International Policy (CIP).

Before 9/11, CIP, a Fenton Communications client, mainly acted as Fidel Castro’s greatest “think tank” ally. Much of its million-dollar budget was spent lobbying to end economic sanctions and travel restrictions against Cuba.

Now, it has another mission. Fenton has established a “war room” with CIP called The Iraq Policy Information Program (IPIP). Its main job is getting the anti-Bush foreign policy message out to the media and providing guests for talk shows. A featured speaker of the IPIP is former ambassador Joe Wilson, one of the Bush administration’s most vocal enemies.

Like Moveon.org and Win Without War, the contact for the Iraq Policy Information Program is Fenton Communications. Win Without War also collects tax-deductible donations through CIP.

Here Dana Priest and Mel Goodman shared a stage behind the CIP banner in October 2003:

http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/8458371_VotEv#939741809_j3Ni5-A-LB

Mel Goodman is a member of the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), which is an organization that pleads with former and current CIA officers to break their oaths and leak secrets that would hurt our national security.

William Arkin has a similar background.

Arkin is a former Greenpeace “researcher.” He has also worked for the radical left Institute for Policy Studies and Human Rights Watch, and even the notorious leftwing fantasist, Seymour Hersh.

In fact, Mr. Arkin considers himself more of an activist than a journalist. (Not that there is any discernible difference in our one party media.)

From the Washington Post, via Lexis-Nexus:
Explosive Analyst

William Arkin, Giving Opinions Left and Right

By Howard Kurtz
Friday, May 24, 2002; Page C01

… He insists he’s not a journalist.

In fact, he’s an activist who works for the liberal group Human Rights Watch.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/2-reporters-behind-the-wps-latest-leak


13 posted on 07/19/2010 9:54:18 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Candor7; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ...
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. . . . Article, # 5 , # 6 , and especially # 12.

Also,

From the Washington Post series:

“The top-secret world the government created in response to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has become so large, so unwieldy and so secretive that no one knows how much money it costs, how many people it employs, how many programs exist within it or exactly how many agencies do the same work.”

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/

14 posted on 07/19/2010 10:02:08 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: opentalk

She’s got me on more than 10 counts.


15 posted on 07/19/2010 10:09:57 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left and the middle.)
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To: Candor7

America in trouble is an understatement. It’s on life support and the plug is about to be pulled. I have no intention of waiting for it to happen. Without freedom, without the values and capitalism that made America great, it’s just another piece of land. Now don’t take that to mean that I don’t love my country and I would be at the front lines defending her but seriously, I love life and life is short. I refuse to live like this, being watched, being called the enemy by these Pinko Chicago Muslim loving thugs. I refuse to fund or participate in death care. I’m out of here the first of the year.


16 posted on 07/19/2010 10:20:28 AM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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To: Candor7

And when Americans resist, what will happen?
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Candor, they won’t resist. If it didn’t happen after death care was thrust upon them by lying, cheating, bribes, etc. it’s not going to happen. I think a gun grab would only be resisted by a few and they would be quickly dealt with and it would be shown all over the news. Fear would set in and they would willingly turn them over. We would be in short order, a Venezuela or Cuba.


17 posted on 07/19/2010 10:24:00 AM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
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18 posted on 07/19/2010 10:35:08 AM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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To: Palter; Beckwith; hennie pennie; little jeremiah; mojitojoe
You misunderstand what I mean when I say Obama is a nationalist.It is not about the nationalism of America as a nation of people to which you so patriotically refer. It is nationalism to create a racial/minority ethic national power over all of Americans. Germany did the same for all of Europe, and Italy and to some extent so did Spain. Japan did the same in China and throughout the Pacific archipelago , all of this from 1920 to about 1946. And this is exactly how such a movement begins as it is here.So the nationalism is "black power/ethnic nationalism" and in its extreme form is what is being advocated by the New Black Panther Party, the NAACP,Reverend Jeremiah Wright, and by Barrak Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, or whoever he is.

This is not imaginary or theoretical, it is born out by the activity of our executive branch in refusing to secure our borders, allowing illegal aliens to enter, and refusing to prosecute the NBPP for election violations in Pennsylvania.No mistake about it. It means one set of laws for racial and ethnic minorities, and another for Caucasians and those who fail to support this black power /ethnic nationalism. It is used to found the governments refusal to enforce laws now on the books.

That's the nationalism of which I speak, as a matter of political analysis, not patriotic nationalism of which we are now so aggravated about, our governments wrongly relegating it to the scrap heap of history, a treasonous travesty.

Such black power /ethnic nationalism, when combined with a policy of "historic justice and reparations" leads to a redistribution of wealth using the otherwise legitimate government power to tax.That's socialism.

Now combine the two: nationalist socialism, that is fascism. And essentially Jonah Goldberg wrote a well annotated history book about it: "Liberal Fascism, The Secret History of America's Left. From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning" ( meaning = political correctness/propaganda).

All this is important to know. How can we defeat the Obama Junta, if we cannot define it properly? Very, very important my FRiend.

19 posted on 07/19/2010 11:03:32 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is facist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: Candor7

I agree with your assessment and concerns.


20 posted on 07/19/2010 12:38:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

There’s a lot to be said on all sides about this. It’s true that our intelligence agencies have been corrupted and beaucratized over the years, beginning with the Vietnam fallout and the Church Commission. Jimmy Carter. Bill Clinton. And others.

Then after 9/11, Bush simply piled more levels of bureaucracy on the top, without really fixing any of the agencies and weeding out the deadwood and the leftist underminers.

Predictably, instead of weeding out the problems, Obama will fire any remaining good guys and turn the entire mess into a political boondoggle. Much the way he did with the GM and Crysler dealerships. Fire all the Republicans and the conservatives and spread the money around to his thugs.


21 posted on 07/19/2010 4:02:11 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Dana Priest
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William Arkin
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22 posted on 07/19/2010 4:37:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Washington D.C. truism: Anything that can be done wrong will be.


23 posted on 07/19/2010 9:58:57 PM PDT by sig226 (Bring back Jimmy Carter!!!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I had to check DU for their reaction to this same article. Not one of them questions why this remains, much less grows, during the time when their party is in complete control.

At least people on here admit Republicans screwed up with too much spending. They recently had a big update to the rules there that even questioning democrats (which would include, of course, anything happening they don’t like going on now) is verbotin. Really twisted place.


24 posted on 07/19/2010 11:34:06 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: LucyT

The top-secret world Barack Obama has created in response to his being elected, has become so large, so unwieldy and so secretive that no one knows how much money has already been drained from our Treasury, how many people it has put out of work, how many programs exist for promoting “Socialism” and “Social justice,” or exactly how many agencies are doing the same thing.”


25 posted on 07/22/2010 8:08:43 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; TigerLikesRooster; M. Espinola; Travis McGee; LomanBill; Smokin' Joe; Quix; ...
Watch Video Report on 'Top Secret America' Here

Obama is hard at work changing America to meet his secret agenda. Perhaps by 2012 we will not recognize the U.S. and many of us may already be in the book of lists. Check my Freeper page for more details.


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26 posted on 07/24/2010 11:23:47 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: ex-Texan

My dear friend’s son is ‘employed’ by Americorps, or some such spelling. My friend, a Limbaugh conservative, loves his son dearly and supports him, no matter where he roams.

And, I respect that as a Father’s right.

I’ve discovered that the little tree-hugger is paid a small monthly stipend from the government, (our taxes) that is small enough to allow him to get food stamps (our taxes). And a free fishing license (our taxes).

Jr. and your’s truly have never seen eye-to-eye and I’m fairly certain that he has placed me on some list that will later be used when the poop hits the prop in this country...

What he doesn’t know is that I’m actually a lot smarter than he is (though he tells me the opposite) and I’m way ahead of him....


27 posted on 07/24/2010 7:44:09 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Molon Labe.)
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To: cranked

>> Is this WaPo’s excuse

bttt


28 posted on 07/24/2010 7:46:26 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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