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Mel Gibson Tirades are the Distilled Violence, Cruelty, & Bigotry of Right-wing Catholic Ideology
Slate ^ | 7/19/10 | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 07/19/2010 5:44:38 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta

Here is a man whose every word and deed is easily explicable once you know the single essential thing about him: He is a member of a fascist splinter group that believes it is the salvation of the Catholic Church.

This schismatic crackpot sect is headed by Mel Gibson's father, Hutton Gibson, a nutty autodidact with a sideline in Holocaust denial.

Like many ultra-conservative Catholics, the Gibsons, père et fils, have never forgiven the Vatican for lifting the charge of deicide against the Jews in 1964.

Less well-remembered, perhaps, is the interview in which he announced that his wife of many years and the mother of his children would not, alas, be able to join him in paradise.

It was not a matter of her moral character. It was simply that she had not seen fit to join the one true church.

Her condemnation, then, was "a pronouncement from the chair."

Gibson has now traded in this long-suffering lady—hopelessly rupturing his sacred marriage vows—for another, younger one, who, to phrase it delicately, was almost certainly not picked for her salient Catholic virtues.

In doing this, he must have had a consciousness, however dim, of having endangered his immortal soul.

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; christopherhitchens; demagoguery; hitchens; melgibson; paradise; vatican
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

“Chrissy Bitchens Tirades are the Distilled Violence, Cruelty, & Bigotry of left-wing atheist Ideology”...there fixed it


101 posted on 07/19/2010 8:27:57 PM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: MissCalico

That is an opinion about his father’s motives but Mel Gibson is the subject of the thread and the subject of the draft dodging accusation so it is irrelevant what his father did or why.


102 posted on 07/19/2010 8:31:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Or maybe it’s simply that Mel’s bats**t crazy. Did that possibility not occur to you, Hitch?
103 posted on 07/19/2010 8:33:08 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: metmom

When I googled Hitchens, I came across a photo of him at his baptism in 1949. All the men were dressed in military uniforms.


104 posted on 07/19/2010 8:33:14 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

LOL. Many of the so-called “ultra conservative” sect of Catholicism denies the Holocaust, are truthers on 9-11, thinks the new Mass of Vatican II is invalid, and (some of them) think the chair of St. Peter is currently vacant.

They are apparently so conservative that they’re not conservative at all.


105 posted on 07/19/2010 8:37:12 PM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I have to say, the notion of Christopher Hitchens attacking anyone for misbehaving in their personal lives is about the ultimate in hypocrisy.


106 posted on 07/19/2010 8:39:02 PM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I thought it was illegal to tape private conversations and then release them to wide media play in order to harm another person. The fact that there is no outrage at this violation of civil liberties astounds me. This fact alone suggests that a different set of standards is being applied in Mel Gibson’s case, acceptance of which could lead to future abuses.


107 posted on 07/19/2010 8:41:39 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Antoninus

Hitchens would go on to support Barack Obama, calling McCain “senile”, and his choice of running mate Sarah Palin “absurd”, calling Palin a “pathological liar” and a “national disgrace”.

...From Wikipedia


108 posted on 07/19/2010 8:43:21 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Ciexyz

It is possible that these tapes won’t be admissible in court.


109 posted on 07/19/2010 8:44:33 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: ansel12

Your last statement is true-That Mel himself was too young to be considered a draft dodger. I posted privately because my one word answer may be confusing to someone else following the thread. No big deal.


110 posted on 07/19/2010 8:47:26 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: FreeperDoll
You have a typo for the word "Freepers" on your homepage.

Cheers!

111 posted on 07/19/2010 8:48:37 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Antoninus

That sounds awfully existential. Are those folks even sure that they exist? lol


112 posted on 07/19/2010 8:53:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: TigersEye; ansel12
Please re-read the post. I stated my response was ONLY directed to a point in the original post where "...Mel was never in a position to be drafted..." It only turned out that way years after the move. Two other freepers basically posted my same response on this particular point. And, btw, it's not my opinion...his father intentionally, by his own and Mel's admission, moved the family to prevent his sons, including a potentially eligible Mel, from the draft.
113 posted on 07/19/2010 9:03:18 PM PDT by MissCalico
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To: MissCalico
"...Mel was never in a position to be drafted..."

That statement is true. There is no rational refutation of that.

114 posted on 07/19/2010 9:10:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: MissCalico; TigersEye; ansel12
moved the family to prevent his sons, including a potentially eligible Mel, from the draft.

Some of Hubby's family moved to America so they wouldn't be drafted to fight Napoleon. Were they draft dodgers?

I think that we are better off with the system that we have now. Anyone who joins is a true Patriot.

115 posted on 07/19/2010 9:10:46 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Amberdawn

Thanks


116 posted on 07/19/2010 9:13:37 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: DJ MacWoW

Well, when there is no draft, there are no dodgers. You’re right about that. It probably is better that way...as long as there’s a sufficient amount of recruits to fill the need at any given time.


117 posted on 07/19/2010 9:23:28 PM PDT by MissCalico
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Btt


118 posted on 07/19/2010 9:32:50 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: MissCalico

Yep. And children aren’t responsible for their parents actions. Before they went to Australia, I believe they went to Ireland where Gibsons mother was born. I know they ended up in Ireland at some point.


119 posted on 07/19/2010 9:34:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: TigersEye
"...Mel was never in a position to be drafted..." That statement is true. There is no rational refutation of that.

Are you calling Mel's dad irrational? Because there's definitely no rational refutation to that either. : )

120 posted on 07/19/2010 9:35:40 PM PDT by MissCalico
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