Skip to comments.Mel Gibson Tirades are the Distilled Violence, Cruelty, & Bigotry of Right-wing Catholic Ideology
Posted on 07/19/2010 5:44:38 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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“Chrissy Bitchens Tirades are the Distilled Violence, Cruelty, & Bigotry of left-wing atheist Ideology”...there fixed it
That is an opinion about his father’s motives but Mel Gibson is the subject of the thread and the subject of the draft dodging accusation so it is irrelevant what his father did or why.
When I googled Hitchens, I came across a photo of him at his baptism in 1949. All the men were dressed in military uniforms.
LOL. Many of the so-called “ultra conservative” sect of Catholicism denies the Holocaust, are truthers on 9-11, thinks the new Mass of Vatican II is invalid, and (some of them) think the chair of St. Peter is currently vacant.
They are apparently so conservative that they’re not conservative at all.
I have to say, the notion of Christopher Hitchens attacking anyone for misbehaving in their personal lives is about the ultimate in hypocrisy.
I thought it was illegal to tape private conversations and then release them to wide media play in order to harm another person. The fact that there is no outrage at this violation of civil liberties astounds me. This fact alone suggests that a different set of standards is being applied in Mel Gibson’s case, acceptance of which could lead to future abuses.
Hitchens would go on to support Barack Obama, calling McCain “senile”, and his choice of running mate Sarah Palin “absurd”, calling Palin a “pathological liar” and a “national disgrace”.
It is possible that these tapes won’t be admissible in court.
Your last statement is true-That Mel himself was too young to be considered a draft dodger. I posted privately because my one word answer may be confusing to someone else following the thread. No big deal.
That sounds awfully existential. Are those folks even sure that they exist? lol
That statement is true. There is no rational refutation of that.
Some of Hubby's family moved to America so they wouldn't be drafted to fight Napoleon. Were they draft dodgers?
I think that we are better off with the system that we have now. Anyone who joins is a true Patriot.
Well, when there is no draft, there are no dodgers. You’re right about that. It probably is better that way...as long as there’s a sufficient amount of recruits to fill the need at any given time.
Yep. And children aren’t responsible for their parents actions. Before they went to Australia, I believe they went to Ireland where Gibsons mother was born. I know they ended up in Ireland at some point.
Are you calling Mel's dad irrational? Because there's definitely no rational refutation to that either. : )
Hitchen’s mouth should be examined for new molecules that can be used in technology development. It can withstand the spewing of so much acid and bile without burning out, it would be incredibly valuable in, say, the garbage and waste disposal industries.
The smoking, burnt-out crust of the hole that used to contain his soul is another matter, however. Perhaps it should be just buried in a landfill with a warning gate around it.
Yes, I said as much further on up the thread. : )
Vietnam was Australia’s longest war, and their draft was in full force during the Vietnam war, the draft of neither nation has anything to do with Mel Gibson, he was too young.
Hutton Gibson said that one reason he moved was an effort to keep his OLDEST son from being drafted, he did not think that the Australia draft would take that son.
Vietnam was fought primarily by volunteers, it was not a draftee military like WWII, or WWI.
Are you calling Mel's dad irrational?
Because there's definitely no rational refutation to that either. : )
That doesn't make sense.
Humor...or my attempt at such, anyway. It’s late so I’ll just sing “hello, I must be going”. It was fun freeping with you and have a good night!
Nite, MissCalico. Don’t let the pillow get away. ;-)
I have been wondering since Mel's earlier arrest in Malibu if he had been placed on anti-depressive or anti-psychotic drugs to deal with the cause of his drinking and other disorders. Is it a possibility His recent bizarre, yet uncharacteristic, behavior could be the result of a reaction to these medications. He was married to the same lady for a very long time, they both are the same mother and father of a large number of decent children. He was known as a loyal family man, rare in hedonist Hollywood.
I am obviously no "shrink", just an amateur wondering.
No one knew how long the war or the draft would last and his sons were all close in age, so, of course he was reasonably concerned that ALL of his sons might be drafted in rapid succession. As far as the Australian draft is concerned, idk, but that's another interesting question. Did they ever become Australian citizens? The old man might have been crazy but "like a fox" shrewd. He also collected some employment disability monies from his job at the railroad, if I recall.
Given his medical condition, Christopher needs to spend more time reading the Bible than reading about Mel Gibson
I have no idea if this man did anything or not to this young woman; however, when she hires Gloria Alread to defend; money will probably be and may be the intended and most important goal.
This a weird thing that you are on, trying to create the lie that a twelve year old kid was a draft dodger, but as far as facts go, in 1968 nobody thought that the United States would still be fighting the Vietnam War in 1974 or 1975, and of course we weren’t. Your commitment to this myth creating is ugly, did you get it from Debbie Schlussel?
You did not have to be a citizen to be drafted in Australia, only a permanent resident.
This jerk can’t drop dead fast enough.
Hitchens is a bloated, hateful windbag. One wonders if all that hatred for Christians was the catalyst for his cancer.
He has a good mind, though, which was a terrible thing to waste, and it’s definitely wasted.
I won’t wish him ill, but I wish he’d STFU and focus on his chemotherapy.
All atheists are brilliant, smart, intellectual, intelligent and really really bright.
Catholics, Christians or “religioinists” are bigoted, closed-minded, hateful, knuckle-dragging dolts.
And, that’s the truth.
“Right-wing Catholic Ideology” is something I have never been able to understand. I don’t see what’s conservative about claiming to be the only church. “Monopolistic-wing Catholic Idealogy” would be more accurate.
There are two kinds of churches — strong and pacifist.
Wherever the Catholic church or ANY strong church holds a monopoly, corruption seeps in. Pacifist religions can fight back a lot of corruption even with a monopoly, but they suffer from weakness.
Hitchens needs help.
Whatever the case, I hope Mel gets his head on straight. His reputation is shot. Forget the good fruit born by Braveheart, the Patriot, The Passion, and Apocolypto [which exposed the rubbish of how wonderful Aztecs were]. It only takes one fly of foolishness to ruin the ointmennt. In Mr. Gibson’s case, it’s a lot more than one, and the leftists are dancing on the grave of his rep.
I pray he doesn’t do anything even more extreme than he already has done. He probably needs a sebatical. He needs to get away from the news. He needs to re-read Gal. 6:12 every morning and night for a solid month: Do good things unto all people — ALL people [especially unto the Brotherhood of Faith]. More importantly, be good to all people. God loves ALL people.
And for the record — I was also a Catholic as a kid. And some creep tried to molest me. One of that creep’s friends is in prison now for child molestation [a priest], and I’m not surprised. As an adult, I went back to that church for the sake of my grandmother, and a priest hit on my girlfriend.
I dropped that stinking church for good reason. American educated priests are just as twisted as Obama if not worse.
Probably already is.
Hitchens has a point - to a certain degree.
If anyone wants to understand Mel’s brand of “catholocism” - try googling Hutton Gibson (lots of material - have fun)
But also - spend some time with the SSPX online.
Now the Gibsons are not SSPX - but the outlook and tone is very similar.
Then google the sedevanticists. These are the “empty seaters”.
You think southern baptists dislike the pope? HA! You’ve never seen pope hatred like this!
These people have webpages and forums.
Once you spend time in their world - now consider this is the atmosphere Mel was raised in.
So I agree that Mel isn’t “just” suffering from bipolar - or alcoholism.
The answer is “all the above”
Mix a dose of mental illness, alcohol, Hollywood celebrity, plus an ubringing at the hand of Hutton Gibson?
That’s quite an explosive mix.
Hitchens can’t help himself though.
He tries to equate the Gibson brand of “catholicism” with all of catholicism. It’s what a good atheist does.
It isn’t catholic theology at all.
They’ve actually rejected the Church they claim to believe in and have set themselves up as their own little popes.
This is what frustrates me with all these Gibson threads.
GIBSON AIN’T A CATHOLIC PEOPLE!
Forgive me, I am not sure yet exactly where Aaron Burr died. I just heard about it, and didn’t even know he wasn’t feeling well.
I am not a Catholic, and was not defending any religion in my post. I believe the problem is Mel, and he is one sick cookie. I had been wondering if some recently added meds may have add "fuel to the fire" to some underlying problems. His former family life does not add up to what we are witnessing now.
Whatever is going on, He diff needs a “time out” far, far away. His current very bad fruit screams for major intervention and spiritual surgery by Jesus Christ. Hopefully for all concerned, there will be no opportunity for insane "sound bites". You are so right when you say "the left" is loving this.
The Sheriff's Dept have authenticated the CD's?
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“Cheating Mel Gibson had a string of girlfriends throughout the years”