Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Dodd-Frank Already Having Unintended Consequences? You Don't Say!
National Review ^ | 21 July 2010 | Stephen Spruiell

Posted on 7/22/2010, 5:24:55 PM by hiredhand

The nation's three dominant credit-ratings providers have made an urgent new request of their clients: Please don't use our credit ratings.

The odd plea is emerging as the first consequence of the financial overhaul that is to be signed into law by President Obama on Wednesday. And it already is creating havoc in the bond markets, parts of which are shutting down in response to the request....


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: basicmathfail; corruptbeyondbelief; dnccorruption; dncrico; doddincharge; incompentent; sharia
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-35 next last
Please don't use our credit ratings...?! This is gonna be interesting!
1 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:24:58 PM by hiredhand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: hiredhand

bimp.


2 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:29:57 PM by the invisib1e hand (Lying, socialist thieves. Any questions?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hiredhand

They are now liable. Until they decide how liable, they will not allow them to be used. This will have an interesting effect as many bonds cannot be sold if they do not have a rating. Just more destruction of the economy. I doubt it is truly unintentional.


3 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:31:00 PM by Ingtar (If he could have taxed it, Obama's hole would have been plugged by now.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hiredhand

*


4 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:31:43 PM by PMAS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hiredhand

Ah, but this simply means that good ‘ole Uncle Sam needs to step in and provide the ratings.


5 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:33:07 PM by FourPeas (God Save America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hiredhand

Somehow, and I don’t know the answer to this, the Forrest Gump line, “Stupid is as stupid does” comes to mind.

Just what does 0bama think the problem is? Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac precipitated the financial collapse, and they are excluded from the reform law.


6 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:35:56 PM by FLCowboy, (And people thought Jimmy Carter was our worst president........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ingtar

“This will have an interesting effect as many bonds cannot be sold if they do not have a rating. Just more destruction of the economy. I doubt it is truly unintentional.”

This can NOT be over stated! The economy will continue to grind to a halt as MOST bonds cannot be sold without a rating! This is more of the same - destroy private industry - force FURTHER government intervention!


7 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:36:40 PM by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go home!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Ingtar

obviously the only solution is for the government to takeover/bail out the rating firms, and then have disinterested bureaucrats and affirmative action appointees to make these ratings.


8 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:38:00 PM by ConservativeDude
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ExTxMarine

Can ANY construction project proceded without bond ratings and insurance?...meaning, can insurance proceed with bond and credit ratings?


9 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:38:22 PM by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: hiredhand

Ok...so where am I supposed to get my score? As far as I know FICO scores are calculated based on these three credit bureaus scores. Does this mean if I walk into a car dealership and they check my credit, they come back and say your credit is “xxx”, but, ‘we can’t confirm it’s true!”.


10 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:39:22 PM by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hiredhand

Someone please tell, Franks, he is the boy or the girl (in his life style).


11 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:44:07 PM by gulfcoast6 (GOD IS!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hiredhand

WOW!

I suddenly discovered I have a 750 credit score!... no wait... 780!

yeah, that’s the ticket

don’t believe me? call the credit agency!


12 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:45:59 PM by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed <---oops!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hiredhand

Wow a lose/lose situation for the ratings companies. If someone has buyers remores or if the financial institution fails to sell out its subsription, then just sue the ratings company.


13 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:46:26 PM by circlecity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hiredhand
We need a new amendment to the constitution.

Congress shall make no law.

That's it.

14 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:46:55 PM by ItsForTheChildren
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ItsForTheChildren

Hah! Great post!!


15 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:49:23 PM by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: givemELL

I work in the construction industry - and the short answer is NO!

Yesterday, my company lost three future jobs because the project “lost funding.” IOW, the financiers realized unless they can pay for the project 100% on their own, they are dropping the projects.

Why? Because going forward, they know they won’t be able to get outside investors (without bond ratings)! We are expecting MORE of this in the construction industry and it will cause the economy to start grinding down - AGAIN!


16 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:49:37 PM by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go home!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: LoneStarGI
Ok...so where am I supposed to get my score? As far as I know FICO scores are calculated based on these three credit bureaus scores. Does this mean if I walk into a car dealership and they check my credit, they come back and say your credit is “xxx”, but, ‘we can’t confirm it’s true!”.

Oh, but in his press conference yesterday, Bobby Gibbs said nothing like this would happen.

The reality is, until the regulations are written, published, then ironed out so that their application is understood, there are going to be all sorts of problems just like the above. No one wants to be the "test case" drug through regulations the hard way. And no one wants to be fined.

17 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:52:24 PM by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: LoneStarGI

next up will be legislation making the 3 credit bureaus liable for civil rights suits if any link can be shown between race/gender and ability to get credit


18 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:57:27 PM by Buckeye McFrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: hiredhand
The Kenyan Clown and his circus wanted to destroy our capital markets, and they have succeeded in destroying those markets.

The awful legacy of the Kenyan Clown and his circus will hang like a millstone on our posterity. He has done a remarkable amount of harm to our country in a mere 18 months, and he has another 30 to do far more.

19 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:57:49 PM by snowsislander (In this election year, please ask your candidates if they support repeal of the 1968 GCA.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hiredhand; All
Go here as well:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2557218/posts

Not good....

20 posted on 7/22/2010, 5:59:43 PM by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-35 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson