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Moran Threatens Kansas NRA official over Tiahrt endorsement
Tiahrt for Congress ^ | Patricia A. Stoneking

Posted on 07/24/2010 11:18:15 AM PDT by Kansas58

Patricia Stoneking, President of the KSRA, said of Tiahrt, "As a member of both the Kansas Legislature and the United States Congress, you have demonstrated a loyal and unwavering commitment to defend the Second Amendment rights of all law abiding citizens. We are proud to boast that while serving in the Kansas State Senate you introduced the first concealed carry legislation and began a crusade that lasted fourteen years until your dream came to fruition as you inspired those who came after you to continue your legacy."

Upon hearing of the KSRA endorsement, Todd Novascone, fourth campaign manager and chief of staff for Congressman Moran, called and threatened Patricia Stoneking for the group's courageous decision to endorse Todd. According to Stoneking, Novascone then threatened her saying "she would be sorry" if Jerry was elected to higher office. Novascone then hung up on Patricia after she refused to relent from the endorsement.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: banglist; jerrymoran; kansas; moran; nra; rkba; tiahrt
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To: BadgerDawg

Moran would not cut off welfare spending on illegal aliens.

YOU are PROBABLY a Democrat, here to cause trouble.

Your facts are wrong and your logic is twisted.


21 posted on 08/02/2010 10:51:30 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: BadgerDawg
HUH?
You just told us that the only endorsements you would respect would be from Ron Paul or from Demint.

Demint is the ONLY notable endorsement that Moran has received.

I just told you that Demint’s endorsement is not worth much. The guy makes lots of mistakes.

Then, you shoot down Romney, who Demint endorsed EARLY in the last Primary season?

Again, you are either here to cause trouble, as a Democrat troll, or you simply do not know what you are talking about!

22 posted on 08/02/2010 10:55:10 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: BadgerDawg
RC 16, HR2, 1/14/09

Moran voted with Nancy Pelosi to give illegal immigrants access to welfare benefits and taxpayer funded health care.

TIAHRT VOTED AGAINST welfare for illegals!

You have found a small handful of votes that you disagree with, that Tiahrt has made.

There are, literally, DOZENS of times that Moran has made horrible votes -—

You do horrible “research” -— in fact, you have done NO research -— you are reading from Moran's press releases.

Another one:
RC 16, HR2, 1/14/09

Jerry Moran votes to raise our taxes!

Todd Tiahrt has NEVER voted for a tax increase.

23 posted on 08/02/2010 11:01:27 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

An old link, but one easily found:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9328-2005Feb8.html

Why does this have a cost if market oriented? BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING FOR IT!

I am licensed too, so you can’t talk down to me. Are you saying that some socialism to avoid more can be a good thing? That defeatist thinking will never lead to any meaningful reduction in governemnt, Tiahrt republicans only preserve democratic expansion and slightly slow the growth until the dems get back in and ramp it up again. With friends like that, who needs enemies? It’s either the fast train or the slow train...at least Moran has voted to put the stops on, even if he doesn’t seem willing to put it in reverse.

IF you are correct on Moran wanting an even worse bill, then he has lost my vote and I go LP or CP. Given his somewhat brave stands against No Child Left Behind and the UN, I think you’re off base with that though. You still haven’t given a good justification of any of his votes I mentioned in a completely unbiased search of spending and Constitutional bills. I obviously don’t like Moran’s vote for $ for illegals, but Tiahrt voted FOR AMNESTY, Moran against. Tiahrt has no grounds to smear on this one.


24 posted on 08/03/2010 6:02:44 AM PDT by BadgerDawg
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To: Kansas58

Palin endorsed liberal Fallin over Constitutionalist and true patriot Brogdon. She endorsed her gal pal over Devore. Are you saying her endorsements are good? The Tea Party groups are endorsing people who passed NCLB and prescription drug socialism. Again, if they’re are friends, who needs enemies. The Tea Party caucus is full of people who voted wrong on both of those issues...only 3 didn’t, Pence, Moran, and Walter Jones. Some weren’t around to vote for or against, but the case is made.


25 posted on 08/03/2010 6:02:49 AM PDT by BadgerDawg
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To: Kansas58

I searched for the biggest, most important votes and took the time to review the votes myself. I never even saw a Moran (or Tiahrt) ad before doing this, I had only heard his pleasant commercials (before he responded to Tiahrt’s negative ads by going slightly negative himself.) Again, you are lying.

You keep talking about the $ for illegals but keep skipping the AMNESTY vote (McCain-Kennedy) that Tiahrt supported and Moran opposed. You will still not mention No Child Left Behind, and your defense of prescription drugs (some socilaism so we don’t have more) is some of the same stimulus nonsense spouted by the dems (spend to get out of debt.)

As for tax increases, they are ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS if nothing is done on spending. Reducing spending is more important than tax cuts. Tiahrt has never met a republican spending program (often unconstitional) he didn’t like.


26 posted on 08/03/2010 6:02:56 AM PDT by BadgerDawg
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To: BadgerDawg
You are a troll.
Nearly every conservative leader, on the national stage, has endorsed Tiahrt.

You will forgive no “sin” connected, in any way, with Tiahrt.

You will not hold any vote, no matter how bad, against Moran!

Jerry Moran wanted a GOVERNMENT RUN prescription drug program. What Moran wanted was far worse than what Tiahrt voted for.

You think your “research” is more valuable than the research of:

Sean Hannity
Mark Levin
Sarah Palin
Tom Tancredo

ALL OF THE ABOVE have endorsed TODD TIAHRT!

27 posted on 08/03/2010 8:24:24 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: BadgerDawg

Are you CMS licensed?
A simple, state, insurance license does not cut it.


28 posted on 08/03/2010 8:25:30 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Thankfully the best guy won...you are repeatedly attacking relatively minor bills and not addressing the more important ones I’ve raised. Tax cuts are pointless without cuts in spending. Spending is more important and Tiahrt has zero backbone for that.

You are free to keep posting more Moran negatives to pull me to whoever the CP or LP is running...I know they are for reduction in government and have the added advantage of seeing through all the unconstitutional waste in our foreign policy between aid, bases all over the world, and false, undeclared wars. I have almost no expection for Moran not towing the unconstitutional party line on those issues anyway, maybe a sliver of hope compared to none with Tiahrt since he voted for pork for his district, and war is his pork.


29 posted on 08/04/2010 6:06:34 AM PDT by BadgerDawg
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To: Kansas58

Sean Hannity and conservatism have nothing in common. He is a republican cheerleader and will generally support any measure pushed by republicans and fight any pushed by democrats. If some republicans had not passed the socialist prescription drug bill, and Obama was now the one proposing the exact same bill, Hannity and all the rest would have been livid about “socialism” and “Obamacare.” Since it was Bush administration policy, he was very silent if he offered any opposition at all. The only real exception I can remember is amnesty (Tiahrt) bill. Hannity, Rush, etc really did stand up to Tiahrt and Bush on that one.


30 posted on 08/04/2010 6:06:38 AM PDT by BadgerDawg
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To: BadgerDawg
You are not a supply-sider.
You are not a Reagan conservative.
Yes, spending got out of line, under Republican leadership.
However, Tax cuts do NOT cause deficits.
Tax rate cuts INCREASE revenues.
31 posted on 08/04/2010 6:17:00 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Reagan let spending go through the roof, even if he didn’t personally support it. While he may have been by far the best of a bad group, he was clearly not the ideal. Tax cuts are good for the economy, but revenue spikes are more due to the incentive to pay capital gains now (and not pay them later.) It’s something many clients are considering right now with capital gains rates increasing next year. So basically, it’s a quick fix. The argument for tax cuts should not be “it increases revenue”, it should be “it’s the right thing to do since 90% of federal governemnt spending is not needed and/or is unconstitutional.” It is NOT the federal government’s job to manage or grow the economy. It is their job to get out of the way. Tax cuts are appropriate since government should not be spending, but without spending cuts it’s all adding to the defecit. You can’t spend your way out of deficits, and to the government spending is tax cuts in addition to actual spending.

By the way, Reagan early in his career talked about getting rid of SS and Medicare. That would have been a truly brave president if he continued with that talk. Our country would be in much better shape today.


32 posted on 08/04/2010 2:35:00 PM PDT by BadgerDawg
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To: Kansas58

Let me rephrase the tax cut issue. Corporate tax cuts can actually grow the economy as foreign investment comes in. From a personal income standpoint, I stand by my post. Take it to an extreme, if taxes were reduced to 5% do you really think revenues would grow? Of course not.


33 posted on 08/04/2010 2:47:12 PM PDT by BadgerDawg
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To: BadgerDawg

Many of the tax cuts also eliminated loopholes so in reality they just presented a fairer picture of the tax code, rate reductions were not necessarily designed to be revenue reductions. Very few people actually paid those ridiculous rates in the 70s because of all the tax shelters available. Anyone looking for an oil or gas deal?


34 posted on 08/04/2010 3:02:53 PM PDT by BadgerDawg
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