by David Hackett Fischer
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Posted on 07/24/2010 4:48:08 PM PDT by dennisw
You know your history! Like them or not, credit must be given the Puritans for their role in founding America
I did not visit the home page.
Well, considering that "Virginia" reached to the Hudson at the time, and the Virginia House of Burgesses was established in 1618, this statement is false even if limited to governments of English settlers, let alone the Iroquois Confederacy.
The Puritans didn't blunder into Cape Cod and what was later named Plymouth, due to a navigational error by the way, until several years afterward.
Where were they headed and where was their land charter? Virginia. Settled since 1607. This petty regionalism over who gets bragging rights has always struck me as peculiar, given the historical record available for all to see.
I'll beg to differ, beiing descended from a few. Planter society and the Anglican establishment went hand in hand, but ended with the Shenandoah Valley, which was an American version of "beyond the Pale." There you'd find not just Scotch-Irish Presbyterians, but Baptists, Quakers and others.
They were there specifically in order to be beyond the reach of Anglican State religious authority.
Zero compatibility today.
Modern Jews this side of Dan Lapin and Mark Levin detest anything but kumbaya Protestants and their culture.
Funny though..they both ran like the dickens together from Catholicism.
that they share for sure
Torquemeda meets St. Barts day.
But nearly all modern Protestants love Jews and Israel and many have covet Jewishishness just short of Israelism...inclduing a fair number of freepers.
Being directly from the book carries weight.
“[ I don’t think God is defined by any earthly religion. ]
So did Jesus..
He came to make ALL religion obsolete.. and DID..
He didnt institute a religion.. others did..”
Why don’t people know this? Because they don’t know the Bible.
You're better off. It's very nasty.
BECAUSE...... they are religious..
To horse my good royalist men, we'll teach these Roundheaded Heretics a thing or two about religious authority! Good enough for old King Harry, good enough for them, I say. Bloody Dissidents!
If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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More accurately the Puratins were what we'd call suprersessionists today. They certainly wouldn't have allowed a Jew to live amongst them, they weren't New Amsterdam Dutch after all.
“They seemed a grim, humorless bunch.”
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That is a mistaken impression.
They were largely a wealthy and very social group that had high respect for God’s word. They led a very full and comfortable existance.
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It’s a good article and touches on a topic which is becoming more and more difficult to research.
This is so stretched
First, the Bible they carried was THE GENEVA Bible, NOT the Holy Jewish Bible!
Unless someone shows me where the Geneva Bible translation into English was secretly called The Holy Jewish Bible...
Second, referring to a people being called out to go to anbother land, using Israelites as a reference, isn’t that what ANY Bible believer would call themselves if they were to use a Biblical reference at all??
Was their ANY other people called by God’s name other than jews?
NO!
This author makes a stretch, not a valid point.
As soon as my chaps straighten out an Anabaptist or two, we’ll consider your case. You are not a Lollard, are you?
Most of what the author is referring to is better placed as the “style”, the “symbolic practices”, the “church and society governance practices’ and not the theology of the Puritans.
In the ways they looked back to the Old Testament leaders, prophets and symbols, it came from how worldly, and how entwined with the secular they believed that both the Catholic Church and the Anglican Church had become.
To “purify’ the faith they had to remove the pagan, secular and corrupt trappings that had been appended to the faith practice during the previous 1500 years.
To the puritans, in their belief that the experience with God could be engaged without the intercession of “church officials”, but directly, on a personal level, they believed themselves to be continuing the covenants God made with Israel, covenants fulfilled in the person of Jesus, covenants continued, directly, by Jesus immediate disciples. Did that make some of their behavior look “Old Testament”? Maybe. But, their theology was not. It was Christian.
by David Hackett Fischer
Kindle version
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