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President Obama calls African-Americans a ‘mongrel people’
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Posted on 07/29/2010 8:32:09 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

President Obama calls African-Americans a ‘mongrel people’ By Sam Youngman - 07/29/10 11:00 AM ET

NEW YORK CITY -- President Obama waded into the national race debate in an unlikely setting and with an unusual choice of words: telling daytime talk show hosts that African-Americans are “sort of a mongrel people.”

The president appeared on ABC’s morning talk show “The View” Thursday, where he talked about the forced resignation of Agriculture Department official Shirley Sherrod, his experience with race and his roots.

When asked about his background, which includes a black father and white mother, Obama said of African-Americans: "We are sort of a mongrel people."

"I mean we're all kinds of mixed up," Obama said. "That's actually true of white people as well, but we just know more about it."

The president did not appear to be making an inflamatory remark with his statement. The definition of mongrel as an adjective is defined as "of mixed breed, nature, or origin," according to dictionary.com.

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1 posted on 07/29/2010 8:32:12 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

True enough of Americans as a whole. Doesn’t offend me in the least, but if a white person or Republican had said it all hell would break loose.


2 posted on 07/29/2010 8:33:47 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh good idea, Barry, let’s talk about race again. snicker. ;-)


3 posted on 07/29/2010 8:34:35 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Sub-Driver

4 posted on 07/29/2010 8:35:13 AM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Sub-Driver
"When asked about his background, which includes a black father and white mother, Obama said of African-Americans: "We are sort of a mongrel people."

No, that makes him a mulatto. It's a very un-PC term these days, but the shoe fits, so the Obammunist needs to wear it.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

5 posted on 07/29/2010 8:35:18 AM PDT by wku man (Steel yourselves, patriots, and be ready. Won't be long now....)
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To: rhombus

If they are truly mongrel....would this declassify them as minority or from receiving special treatment/benefits?


6 posted on 07/29/2010 8:36:00 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, he’s speaking the truth, for once. It’s tough to find a black American with pure African blood.

My ancestry traces back to America, Europe, and Africa, but it says “negro” on my birth certificate. It’s just a fact. Nothing to get worked up about, in my opinion.


7 posted on 07/29/2010 8:36:28 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Sub-Driver

He ought to know.


8 posted on 07/29/2010 8:37:14 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: wku man

I have always connected that term with a dog .


9 posted on 07/29/2010 8:38:35 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: Sub-Driver
Robert “KKK” Byrd: I will never fight “with a Negro by my side. Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”

Mongrel as a word to describe humans of mixed heritage has a long and not very illustrious past.

‘Americans are a mongrel people, half Jewified, half Negrofied’ Adolf Hitler

10 posted on 07/29/2010 8:39:38 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Sub-Driver
"I mean we're all kinds of mixed up," Obama said. "That's actually true of white people as well, but we just know more about it."

Huh? Exactly what do "we" know about it? Tell us more about the "typical white person", Barry? And what exactly makes you "African American" and not "white" since we're all "mixed up"?

This guy's a dope.

11 posted on 07/29/2010 8:40:27 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Sub-Driver
A definition searched: An animal or a plant resulting from various interbreedings. LOTFLOL
12 posted on 07/29/2010 8:40:35 AM PDT by Bronzy
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To: Windflier

Let Rush or Beck call him a mongrel and watch how worked up people get.


13 posted on 07/29/2010 8:40:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Sherman Logan
True enough of Americans as a whole. Doesn’t offend me in the least, but if a white person or Republican had said it all hell would break loose.

Agreed, I'd be willing to bet if a black person says something "offensive" about whites, it isn't so much the comment in itself, it's the feigned OUTRAGE that would come if it were the other way around. For example, I couldn't care less what Ben Jealous of the NAACP says, what p#sses me off is that if it were a white person saying the same about him the howls you'd hear from the MSM and the left in general.

14 posted on 07/29/2010 8:40:38 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Sherman Logan

“True enough of Americans as a whole. Doesn’t offend me in the least, but if a white person or Republican had said it all hell would break loose.”

Sort of like the white people who used perfectly good words like “niggardly”, “black hole” or “Eenie, meenie, minie, moe”? It all depends on who’s doing the saying, doesn’t it?


15 posted on 07/29/2010 8:40:43 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: rhombus
Oh good idea, Barry, let’s talk about race again. snicker. ;-)

He's nuts. Other night he threw a salute to Broadway musicals at the White House. Yup...he started off about how much show-tunes taught us about race.

16 posted on 07/29/2010 8:40:51 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: wku man
Mulatto? LOL. Reminds me of the profane spy cartoon “Archer”.

Archer: “Not diverse enough? We have Launa, she is black...ish.”

Launa: “Black-ISH?!?!?!”

Archer: “Well you freaked out when I called you an Octoroon.”

Launa: “Imagine that!”

17 posted on 07/29/2010 8:41:34 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Windflier

“Well, he’s speaking the truth, for once. It’s tough to find a black American with pure African blood.”

Good point, and well taken.

Still and all, would you describe your family as “mongrel”?

Or would you be a bit more dignified?

If I described my geneology I’d say it’s a “hodge podge.” “Some of this, some of that.”


18 posted on 07/29/2010 8:41:48 AM PDT by hoe_cake ( Society of the Descendents of the Signers of the Constitution)
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To: Sub-Driver

Basically paraphrasing Bill Murray’s speech from Stripes:

“We’re all very different people. We’re not Watusi. We’re not Spartans. We’re Americans, with a capital ‘A’, huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We’re the underdog. We’re mutts!”


19 posted on 07/29/2010 8:42:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cripplecreek

I predict that Rush will do that today, followed by the State Run Media having an attack and calling for Rush to be banned from the air.


20 posted on 07/29/2010 8:42:25 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: Sub-Driver

My son just said, “So, he’s a racist to everyone. He’d even punch himself if he had the chance.”


21 posted on 07/29/2010 8:43:12 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Sub-Driver

IMO, one of our biggest mistakes was allowing Progressives to control the conversation by labeling Obama as ‘black’ or ‘african-american’, ignoring the FACT that his mother was lily white. As a result, at every opportunity they have been able to play the race card. How can my objection to him be labeled ‘racist’ when the man is half white?

IMO, it is completely racist to ignore that he IS half white. Obama is our first BI-RACIAL President and should have been labeled as such from the get go.... period. But then, I suppose we’d have been labeled racist for pointing out the obvious.


22 posted on 07/29/2010 8:44:39 AM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Obama calls African-Americans a ‘mongrel people’

Thats partially correct. Not all African Americans have mixed racial blood or relations.

'Among humans, mongrel and mongrelize are derogatory terms for the mixing of "races", known as miscegenation'...Wikipedia

'Miscegenation (Latin miscere "to mix" + genus "kind") is the mixing of different racial groups through marriage, cohabitation, sexual relations, and procreation.[1] The term "miscegenation" has been used since the nineteenth century to refer to interracial marriage and interracial sex,[1] and more generally to the process of racial admixture......Wiki

23 posted on 07/29/2010 8:45:18 AM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Sub-Driver

Jungle Law


24 posted on 07/29/2010 8:47:18 AM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’ve called him a marxist, a racist, a usurper, a liar, a phony, a disgrace, Zero, anti-american, but never thought to call him a mongrel.

Since, one of it’s definitions is bastard or illegitimate, I’ll add it to the list.

Thanks O for adding to my vocabulary


25 posted on 07/29/2010 8:51:05 AM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: hoe_cake

A study by the
Population Research Center, in Portland, Oregon, projects that the black
intermarriage rate will climb dramatically in this century, to a point at which 37
percent of African-Americans will claim mixed ancestry by 2100.

http://swc2.hccs.edu/htmls/govdep/pdf/ereader/natpdf/cp1/rodriquez_mongrel_america.pdf


26 posted on 07/29/2010 8:51:18 AM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Brugmansian
He's nuts. Other night he threw a salute to Broadway musicals at the White House. Yup...he started off about how much show-tunes taught us about race.

Show tunes? Oy! Let's recap... we elected a guy named Clinton who had an absentee father and tried to get into every woman he could find. Now we elected another guy with an absentee father who is black and we now have a president who is obsessed about race and sought out the likes of Jerimiah Wright. Maybe they're not "certifiably" nuts but both of them sure could use some serious couch time... Wusses.

27 posted on 07/29/2010 8:53:34 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Sub-Driver
I always like the way Bill Murray's character explained in in the movie 'Stripes':

"We're all very different people. We're not Watusi, we're not Spartans, we're Americans! With a capital 'A'. And you know what that means? Do you? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world!"
28 posted on 07/29/2010 8:57:22 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Sub-Driver; All
If Rush Limbaugh had called African Americans "MONGREL PEOPLE", the "Hill", and EVERY DAMN "NEWS" OUTLET IN AMERICA WOULD BE SKINNING HIM ALIVE!

Hussein does it, and he gets an effing PASS.

I hate the press. They are so damned biased.

29 posted on 07/29/2010 8:57:45 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: hoe_cake

” Or would you be a bit more dignified?”

To me he’s the most undignified President we have had.....

He appears to want to be:

Jay Leno’s replacement and the hippest thing to come along in our lifetime...........


30 posted on 07/29/2010 8:58:01 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: tflabo; All

thanks for that link.

IMO, Obama’s reference to his heritage as “mongrel” is an attempt to “make himself appear more like us normal folks”.

Which means that he inherently thinks of himself as superior to us.


31 posted on 07/29/2010 8:58:10 AM PDT by hoe_cake ( Society of the Descendents of the Signers of the Constitution)
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To: Sub-Driver
Barry Half-White calls himself BLACK... not White..
As do most other half-White folks.....

Could there be a benefit to calling yourself BLACK?...
Not a CURSE but BOON?...

Could Affirmative Action be the greatest little political scam going?..
Does calling yourself BLACK make you just a little MORE EQUAL than others?...

Is Barry Sotoro scamming the American System?..
Is he a PRO-RACIAL President.. masked as BLACK to BAMMboozle the BLACK folks.. and confuse some whites?..

Because Barry is no blacker than other half-White folks..
come to think of it.. Rev. Wright is not very BLACK either...
-OR- Julian Bond or Tiger Woods or Charlie Wrangle..
If you have Blackenese people why NOT Whitenese..

I can't find ANY Whitenese people.. is there a downside to being Whitenese?..

32 posted on 07/29/2010 8:58:29 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: dfwgator

Great minds think alike! ;-)


33 posted on 07/29/2010 8:58:38 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: allmendream
Great post.

"I will never fight “with a Negro by my side. Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”

-- Robert “KKK” Byrd

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"Americans are a mongrel people, half Jewified, half Negrofied"

-- Adolf Hitler

***

"We are sort of a mongrel people."

-- Barack Hussein Obama


34 posted on 07/29/2010 8:58:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't believe in atheists. And nihilists are nothing to me.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Imagine if almost anyone else on earth used that description?


35 posted on 07/29/2010 8:59:08 AM PDT by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: Sherman Logan
True enough of Americans as a whole. Doesn’t offend me in the least, but if a white person or Republican had said it all hell would break loose.

Understandably, since there are some very negative connotations to the word "mongrel" - and people speaking about groups they belong to have far more latitude to say negative things than when they're talking about a group they don't belong to.

But agree completely about it being true enough of all Americans. One of my room-mates in my freshman year of college - he was from Nigeria - pointed this out to me: most American blacks don't look like Africans born in sub-Saharan Africa. They tend to be lighter skinned and their facial features aren't the same as Africans. And I'd guess many people of European or any other descent whose ancestors came here sufficiently long ago have some combination of racial heritages in them.

Given enough time and modern transportation, the human race will probably become a uniform shade of light brown at some point and we can fight over other stuff.
36 posted on 07/29/2010 8:59:59 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Sub-Driver

According to Wiki MONGREL means:

“In botany, a mongrel may refer to the offspring of varieties of a species which was in contrast to a hybrid”

“Among pets, one whose parentage is of unknown or mixed breeds as opposed to purebred”

“Among humans, mongrel and mongrelize are derogatory terms for the mixing of “races”, known as miscegenation”

I guess someone has to ask Gibbs if Mr. Skittles considers himself human or animal.


37 posted on 07/29/2010 9:00:42 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Windflier

I’m mixed Asian/English/Irish/Scottish............Can’t get much more “mongrel” than that!..........I’ve had several dogs over the years. The smartest and the most intelligent were the mongrels. My pure breds were basically stupid...................


38 posted on 07/29/2010 9:02:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: Sherman Logan
yeh--if a white person called Obama a 'mongrel' you just know the dimwit leftists would go apoplectic.

For leftists... It's not the words you speak but who speaks the words!

39 posted on 07/29/2010 9:02:03 AM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Kimberly GG
IMO, it is completely racist to ignore that he IS half white. Obama is our first BI-RACIAL President and should have been labeled as such from the get go...

Agreed, a fact I have been shouting since the campaign.

40 posted on 07/29/2010 9:02:16 AM PDT by CitizenM ("Do you miss me yet?" Yes, George, we do.)
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To: Sub-Driver

"Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."

        Abraham Lincoln

"We have no government armed in power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. "

        John Adams

Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God

        Thomas Jefferson


"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."

        Patrick Henry 

"Public officials should not be chosen if they are lacking in experience, training, proven virtue, and demonstrated wisdom. "
        Sam Adams


41 posted on 07/29/2010 9:03:22 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: tflabo

So “the one” was channeling Bill Murray from “Stripes”

“Cut it out! Cut it out! Cut it out! The hell’s the matter with you? Stupid! We’re all very different people. We’re not Watusi. We’re not Spartans. We’re Americans, with a capital ‘A’, huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We’re the underdog. We’re mutts! Here’s proof: his nose is cold! But there’s no animal that’s more faithful, that’s more loyal, more loveable than the mutt. Who saw “Old Yeller?” Who cried when Old Yeller got shot at the end?”

Of course if this had been a white repbulican (or even a white democrat.. maybe..) he would be in hot water!


42 posted on 07/29/2010 9:03:34 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: EternalVigilance
To me it just shows how the racists are ignorant of breeding practices and science.

In animal breeding a cross/hybrid/mongrel mating brings out lots of variations and often “hybrid vigor”. The idea that there is some sort of “mongrelization”, as if humans were selectively bred for a function that would be diluted if mixed; is absolutely asinine.

Some of the most gorgeous women I have ever seen have been of mixed heritage. America has the best of everything in the world, and the most creative, intelligent, motivated and beautiful people from around the world seem to end up here, where such industry and creativity is best rewarded; and it has made our nation the greatest in the World.

43 posted on 07/29/2010 9:07:34 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: hosepipe
“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs, partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”… Booker T. Washington …1904 quote

Gotta love that Booker T. ---and the MG's too, eheheh!

44 posted on 07/29/2010 9:09:31 AM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Sub-Driver

“We are sort of a mongrel people.”

And this is a problem? Why limit it to Blacks. Of course Americans, in general, are a mongrel society. What do you think the term, melting pot, refers to?

This country is not bound together by race. Broken apart, perhaps, but not bound together.

If you’re concerned about what percentage of various races are in your background, you’re missing the whole point of America. It wasn’t started to support your angst, or pride, based on your “race”. It doesn’t really matter, and as long as you subscribe to the ideals of the country nobody really cares anymore. Oh sure, there may be a few throwbacks in any race, but you have to start to question their mental capacity after a certain point.

Most people have gotten past worrying about such things, unless they’re politicians, or you are on sort of plantation provided by the policticians. It’s certainly not a concern of folks that are operating in the real world, running their own businesses or with better things to worry about.


45 posted on 07/29/2010 9:12:45 AM PDT by Habibi ("It is vain to do with more what can be done with less." - William of Occam)
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To: allmendream

Absolutely.

There is only one race: the human race.

I think I’ll make that my new tagline.


46 posted on 07/29/2010 9:13:42 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (There is only one race: the human race.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I suppose he´s black, or something. He should have showed the Views how cool he really is and thrown around the n word too.


47 posted on 07/29/2010 9:14:11 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Red Badger
I’m mixed Asian/English/Irish/Scottish

That's basically what I am, with some Spaniard, German and Polish thrown in the mix. ;-)

48 posted on 07/29/2010 9:16:18 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Here’s proof. His nose is cold.”

49 posted on 07/29/2010 9:17:44 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: allmendream

Just the ‘phonetic sound’ of the word ‘mongrel’ has a repulsive aura about it. A more ‘vanilla’ word to infer could be ‘hybrid’ although its technical meaning does not involve humans whereas ‘mongrel’ is an appropriate and correct term for human interracial mixing. It is what it ‘bees’!


50 posted on 07/29/2010 9:18:15 AM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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