Posted on 08/03/2010 4:00:09 AM PDT by MegaSilver
NEW YORK — A contentious plan for a mosque near the World Trade Center site will get a boost if New York City's landmarks panel votes Tuesday to allow the demolition of the building that the mosque would replace.
The mosque would be part of an Islamic community center to be operated by a group called the Cordoba Initiative, which says the center will be a space for moderate Muslim voices.
But opponents say building a mosque near ground zero would be an insult to the memory of those who died at the hands of Muslim extremists on Sept. 11, 2001.
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But more generally, there is a problem in the reading of history. Roman historians of the first century A.D. could never have predicted that the execution of a carpenter in 33 in the dinghy little outpost of Palestine would change the course of Imperial history, but by the fifth century few historians would any longer NOT make this Crucifixion a central reference point. Historiographies change as seeds planted come to fruition decades or centuries later and present events require different emphases than what had been originally considered sensational.
Accordingly, although the twentieth century is usually read by American conservatives as one of American ascendancy plus the Soviet Menace, the unfolding of the twenty-first century is rapidly revealing two weaknesses in this historiography. First of all, American conservatives tend to overlook the deep historical and folkloric heritage that America owes to Europe and therefore often neglect to feel the latter's developments, triumphs, sorrows and challenges as our own. The twentieth century and the World Wars were only the most explosive (to date) chapters in an internal cultural and moral struggle in western civilization dating back 200 years and possibly even further.
Second, and more importantly for this discussions, while the filigrees of Cold War alliances and Communist takeovers cast a shadow over global affairs, and while Christianity compromised with liberals to win allies against Communism, an unattached Islamic Revival was in the brewing. Certain incidents blew up before the fall of the Iron Curtain: the installing of the Taliban, the ousting of the Shah of Iran, the Lebanese Civil War, etc. However, it has only been since the disappearance of Bolshevik Communism that the social capital of a reinvigorated Islam has begun to consolidate.
What fueled this revival? Part of it was the relative decline of Christianity over the period, especially the mass apostasy within Roman Catholicism and the plummeting fertility rates among Eastern Orthodox. But part of it can be explained practically: the shiny new Mosques and propaganda centers springing up all over the globe can almost undoubtedly be traced to petrodollar binging. Note that all the major events began to pop right as the U.S. reached its Peak Oil and subsequently became dependent on the Middle East. Coincidence? No way!
As wealthy as the West is, there is no parallel trillionaire apparatus to endow any Christian denomination. Perhaps for that we ought to be thankful, lest our Churches become slaves to the states that create them. Still, at the very least it is strategically suicidal to continue our energy policies as such. America has GOT TO BECOME ENERGY INDEPENDENT--and in so doing, set a PRISTINE example to the rest of the world.
Part of it is going to come from GROUND-UP activism. It is our PATRIOTIC DUTY to be fuel-ecological. Moreover, this will encourage carpooling and revival of local infrastructure--all conducive to conservative society.
A while back, when the PETA-type nuts plastered signs all over the Paris métro constating that "Wearing fur is wearing DEATH!" my friends and revived an old saying: "Be organic! Wear FUR!" We should one-up the Sierra Club nuts: "BE ECOLOGICAL! Stop funding the Islamic Revival!!"
If liberals can boycott Arizona, I think I’ll boycott New York. Both are issues of invasion—Arizona wants to prevent one, New York is trying to facilitate one.
agree...but its New Yorkers who need to stand up against the mosque...
If somehow it actually gets built, the same people could stand in front of the entrances.
If it does get built, I wouldn’t be surprised to see it brought down in some fashion.
Yep.
LLS
If built, millions of Americans will write off
New York as New Cordoba-the-Willing.
A company I represented tried to get a ticket dispensing device installed in a lobby of a New York building. The unions were impossible to deal with. You needed a different union for each task and they refused to coordinate with one another. One union to bolt it to the floor, another to provide power, another to provide com. lines, another to move it, and on, and on, and on. It took two months for something that a couple of guys could have done in less than a day. The unions could make building this impossible!
But also there is a the good news of growth of and spreading at the same time, even though mostly Evangelical, but also seeing growth of the Roman Catholic Church and the Anglican churches, in the global south countries of Africa, Asia, and Latin America.
The one who speaks about global south Christianity, Philip Jenkins.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Jenkins
There fixed it.
The ruling elite class has decided it will be and so it will be! The public be danmed! The public is supposed to shut up and cough up its money.
But they won't.
Didn't the Japanese build a Shinto Shrine overlooking Pearl Harbor in 1947? 
No there's no Shrine above Pearl.
But Hawaii & Pearl Harbor is a fave vacation spot for the Japanese. Gee, I wonder why??????
Holy shinto!
It would sure be a shame if the construction workers refused to work on that site. Or if vengeful citizens sabotaged the work effort.
Yep, that sure would be a shame ...
No, the unions would be willing participants in the outrage, making it more of an outrage.
THey specialize in making one day jobs,like your ticket dispensing device, into two month gravy trains for themselves. A 13 story ‘learning facility’ like this would be under construction for many many months, and what we don’t know now, because they won’t let it into the ‘narrative’, is that the Unions may figure mightily into the ‘decision-making process’ which COULD clear the way for the Mosque (now officially known as 51 Park.).
What does that represent? I'm a little slow today.
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