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Study finds proximity could be key to success of healing prayer
Indiana University ^
| Candy Gunther Brown
Posted on 08/05/2010 5:05:22 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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I thought many Freepers would be interested in this. And, for those who may not know, the Southern Medical Journal is a well-respected medical publication.
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posted on
08/05/2010 5:05:23 AM PDT
by
Pharmboy
To: Pharmboy
Whether or not these prayers are working by the exact method they claim to (and as a Christian, I believe in many instances they can be) there is something about human closeness and touch that is missing in today’s hospital settings, and under Obamacare this depersonalization can only get worse.
What would one do for a control study? Maybe to hold the patient’s hand, massage his head, etc. and read him a batch of secular get well wishes?
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posted on
08/05/2010 5:12:09 AM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
To: HiTech RedNeck
Yes...similar thoughts occurred to me...needs a control.
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posted on
08/05/2010 5:13:24 AM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
To: neverdem; Jim Robinson; aculeus; SunkenCiv
Random ping for possible interest...
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posted on
08/05/2010 5:14:33 AM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
To: Pharmboy
The benefits of hearing someone pray for you makes sense to me. And didn’t Jesus usually go to see those he healed?
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posted on
08/05/2010 5:19:09 AM PDT
by
Dem Guard
(The + IRS = Theirs)
To: Pharmboy
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posted on
08/05/2010 5:21:32 AM PDT
by
janereinheimer
((I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.))
To: Dem Guard
And didnt Jesus usually go to see those he healed?With some exceptions, such as the slave of the centurion and the son of the man who said, "I believe - help my unbelief!"
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posted on
08/05/2010 5:35:11 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Steampunk Baby and the Quest for Bill's iPod - now on DVD!)
To: Dem Guard
"And didnt Jesus usually go to see those he healed?"
Not necessarily. There was the centurian's servant and the daughter of another woman. In both these instances, particularly with the centurian's servant, the major point was that Jesus location didn't matter at all with regard to his ability to heal. When the centurian pointed this out, Jesus' praised this gentile for having more faith than any other in Israel
To: circlecity; Tax-chick
True, it just seemed to me when he could he wanted to go in person.
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posted on
08/05/2010 5:52:00 AM PDT
by
Dem Guard
(The + IRS = Theirs)
To: Dem Guard; circlecity
I believe that in most cases, the sick were brought, or brought themselves, to Jesus. He travelled to raise the dead: Lazarus of Bethany and the synagogue ruler’s daughter.
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posted on
08/05/2010 5:53:21 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Steampunk Baby and the Quest for Bill's iPod - now on DVD!)
To: janereinheimer
My pleasure...and as a side note, I am really impressed with some of these Freeper’s Biblical knowledge. And I assume they are lay people...but perhaps I am wrong on that.
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posted on
08/05/2010 6:30:51 AM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
To: Pharmboy
the Southern Medical Journal is a well-respected medical publication. I think Granny Clampett had a couple of articles published in there.
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posted on
08/05/2010 6:31:06 AM PDT
by
Onelifetogive
(For the record, McCarthy was right.)
To: Dem Guard
The benefits of hearing someone pray for you makes sense to me.Of course that can also trigger a placebo effect.
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posted on
08/05/2010 6:33:01 AM PDT
by
Onelifetogive
(For the record, McCarthy was right.)
To: Dem Guard
And didnt Jesus usually go to see those he healed? Sometimes. Sometimes they came to Him. And on at least one occasion, He merely declared it done from across town and it was done.
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posted on
08/05/2010 6:36:09 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Pharmboy
Maybe prayer follows an inverse square law.
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posted on
08/05/2010 6:40:02 AM PDT
by
Right Wing Assault
(The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
To: Right Wing Assault
Nice one...that brings me right back to high school physics and one of the few things I got! And, I even remember a friend of mine who was brilliant in physics back then (and still is--he's been an astrophysicist at Harvard for 35 years) who said at the time that the inverse square law speaks for a designer's presence. He said "Why should it be exact whole numbers?" Why isn't it 1.769274 or somesuch?"
Made me think...
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posted on
08/05/2010 7:03:37 AM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
To: Onelifetogive
"Of course that can also trigger a placebo effect."
I nearly died and I had "last rites" administered to me. Several weeks later when I woke up and I was told many people I didn't know had prayed for me over time (remotely) and I recovered to the amazement of my doctors. I never heard any of the prayers but I recovered. Prior to this experience I might have considered a placebo effect but not after that.
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posted on
08/05/2010 8:02:26 AM PDT
by
Dem Guard
(The + IRS = Theirs)
To: Dem Guard
Prior to this experience I might have considered a placebo effect but not after that. The Placebo Effect is obviously and incontrovertibly effective. That does not mean that prayer (up close and personal) is not also effective.
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posted on
08/05/2010 8:25:25 AM PDT
by
Onelifetogive
(For the record, McCarthy was right.)
To: Tax-chick
"He travelled to raise the dead: Lazarus of Bethany and the synagogue rulers daughter."
Also, as you recall, Luke tells us during his ministry he came upon a funeral procession and out of compassion for the mother he resurrected her son who was on his way to be buried.
To: circlecity
Yes, the only son of the widow of Nain, sort of a drive-by dead-raising, as it were.
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posted on
08/05/2010 10:07:30 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Steampunk Baby and the Quest for Bill's iPod - now on DVD!)
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