Posted on 08/10/2010 5:42:30 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
It was two exhausted nations and dropping the bomb was a merciful coupe de grace. I don't see why he can't just take a step back and see that.
He's so wrong that he's not even wrong. His argument doesn't have standing. It would be a waste of words to rebut him.
We thank God that it has come to us, instead of to our enemies; and we pray that He may guide us to use it in His ways and for His purposes.” President Truman
Thank God we had a President ready to do whatever it took to end the War. Apparently this author's view of a “just war” is one that goes on needlessly. Is it any wonder that people had reservations about handing the Presidency to the disciple of such a doctrine? Our entire nuclear deterrence is BASED upon the President's willingness to “commit war crimes, apparently.”
The day I read about Nanking was the day any feeling of guilt over Hiroshima was forever swept away.
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The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were definitely acts of war
directed to the destruction of whole cities or—at least—vast areas
with their inhabitants.
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Funny (i.e., ironic) that folks forget the firebombing the proceeded
the atomic bomb drops.
IIRC, more civilians (some wartime workers) were hideously fried by firebombing
than by the two nukes.
When you have an adversary that refuses to surrender and is ready to
send all its’ men (the ones remaining), women and children at you
with a “take one with you” on steroids attitude...
extreme measures are indicated.
What has always baffled me is that it took TWO bombs to get the Japanese
leaders to face the truth that they were done.
And for those that think the US forces were barbarians...heck, we
bombed the most Christianized city in Japan (Nagasaki) instead of
Kobe, the cultural capital of Japan.
Talk about “cultural sensitivity”.
Watch the films of japanese civilians throwing themselves off of cliffs when the U.S. took Saipan. They had been told by their leaders that the U.S. troops would brutalize them. Now imagine those scenes played out thousands of times if we had invaded Japan. The atomic bombs saved hundreds of thousands of japanese lives.
Well, then you have a poor knowledge of history then. Japan was NOT going to surrender. In fact it took two A bombs before they did surrender and there was a plot by military leaders to scotch that surrender but it didn't work out.
The US was expecting a million US troop casualties and Japan about the same. The people were gearing up to fight alongside the Japanese armed forces in order to protect their homeland.
The bombs were necessary in order to save millions of lives.
I cheer what he had done as well.
My dad was in the Army during WWII - ended up in Europe just after the Battle of the Bulge, so he was fortunate enough to be involved in a somewhat less deadly time (as compared to, say, the Normandy invasion). There is no doubt that had the US not had and used the Atom bomb, he would have been involved in the invasion of Japan. Hundreds of thousands would have died for no good reason. The bombs saved the lives of many, American and Japanese.
Truman did the right thing.
To use the quote from Billy Madison:
“Mr. Akin, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
No one with an IQ even approaching room temperature would think that Obama would use a nuclear weapon to deter attack on the United States. Obama is about causing the destruction of the country, not protecting it.
You need to look at the Japanese plans for civilian resistance to an invasion -- civilians using spears and such if that's all they had -- and consider who a "noncombatant" would be.
The protest is really about one plane dropping one bomb and killing all those people. Then it was done again a few days later.
If five hundred planes had dropped firebombs on the same cities and killed the same ammount of people nothing would have been said about it.
A few days after the bombing of Nagasaki a large raid was done with conventional bombs on (I believe) Tokyo. Tens of thousands were killed yet no one remembers them because all people remember is the BOMB!
I would like to take every one of the protesters and eurowenies, then place them in the front wave of landing craft heading into Japan just so they can feel good about not dropping the BOMBS.
This guy, atkin, is a revisionist moron. I happily would volunteer him to be in the front of the Japan invasion uf I had a time machine. I think he’s drinking too much free wine at the altar.
Try 1974 when Lt. Hiroo Onoda surrendered to local authorities on Luzon, Philippines, after getting official orders to do so from Tokyo! There were multiple other Japanese holdouts, mostly where the conditions allowed them to be self-sufficient.
Well dandy, wasn’t vatican II implemented AFTER WW II??
Lamh Foistenach Abu!
I don't think I buy Mr. Akin’s analysis.
It was not our intention to kill civilians indiscriminately. Here, Mr. Akin gets it wrong. We specifically warned the Japanese to get the heck out of Dodge, cause a really big ugly thing was coming their way.
The purpose of the bomb was two-fold: to destroy anything that could be remotely used for war materiel, and to show the Japanese that we could destroy everything they had that could be used for war materiel. And without breaking much of a sweat.
If the intention of the American government was to show that we could kill lots of Japanese in one, fell swoop, it wouldn't have warned them to get out of their cities before the bomb fell.
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Agree! What kind of crimes would these same utter fools be accusing Truman of if he had left the atomic bombs on the shelf and invaded Japan after months of preparatory bombing on cutoff of all supplies? Millions of women and children would have died needlessly.
The war needed to be over, and over in a way that it would not be repeated, as the war in Europe was ended in 1918, only to rekindle in 1939. And the proof is in the pudding. Japan has not had a war in 65 years.
There is no pleasing these fools until they surrender themselves and all their listeners to a violent death at the hands of the thugs of the world. Ignore them. Or, in time of war, lock them away.
Unbelievable and they continued to wage “war” against the locals. Nuts.
Interesting that the catechism blurbs were written after the fact. This screed is from the same trashheap as the “Just War” knucklehead Catholics working with Commies.
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