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While "to exercise my natural, Constitutional right" should always be a sufficient legal answer, this essay provides a bit more ammunition for the uninitiated.
1 posted on 08/14/2010 6:50:40 AM PDT by marktwain
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I guess they just don’t figger yankees can be trusted with firearms.


2 posted on 08/14/2010 6:56:03 AM PDT by rsobin
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I agree with those who say the 2nd Amendment was both to protect citizens from government and, as noted, to foster the ability to assemble competent militias. That it is also necessary for self-defense was never debated or written down back then, because it was so obvious. What more inalienable right can there be than the right to self-defense?


3 posted on 08/14/2010 7:05:32 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Hmmmm ... years ago, because of youthful stupidity, I garnered a felony to my account. (Clever wording to keep from admitting I weas an asshole)

Now .. 40 some years later, I am not even given the opportunity to choose the option to protect myself and family or not.


A dog learns not to chase cars by getting hit, and no one thinks the dog is bad or worse for getting hit, rather now considered a better dog.

I don't have a dog's chance.

4 posted on 08/14/2010 7:06:20 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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The struggle over this amuses me. The infringement on the 2nd amendment by tyranists carries as much weight as King George arguing against the emancipation of the colonies after July 4th, 1776.
5 posted on 08/14/2010 7:10:57 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of
a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
shall not be infringed.
Clearly the right is to protect oneself form an unjust tyranical government. Our founding fathers wanted the citizens to be able to overthrow a corrput government.
What tine is it?


6 posted on 08/14/2010 7:14:12 AM PDT by IC Ken
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In fact, the Court’s affirmation of “reasonable” restrictions more of less upheld Chicago’s—and thus Illinois’ and Rhode Island’s—proscriptive concealed carry laws.

An "Illinois proscriptive carry law" does not exist.

10 posted on 08/14/2010 7:21:22 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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Thanks...

What a sad state of affairs this is. Its really harder on someone like me, as I sneak up on my 60th year on this planet. I was taught by dad how to use and take care of firearms at a young age. I owned a 16 guage bolt action shotgun when I was 8, but not allowed to hunt with friends until I was 14. most folks would never had asked the question that is the premise of this post, it was just understood. We had the right to defend ourselves...period!
It was understood that no one had to stand by and be a victim, take a butt whipping, or anything of the sort. In High School I had a gun rack in the back window of my truck in the high school parking lot. WHY??? Saved a trip home to grab a weapon when you wanted to get in a few hours of dove hunting after school. When you had a fight at school with someone it lasted until your hands hurt (less than 30 seconds), and it never crossed your mind to go to your truck and grab your shotgun. Now kids get in trouble if they have a steak knife in their lunch bag to cut up your meal. I know times have changed, (dammit) but guns were more available in 1960 than now, so what has changed?
Bet it has more to do with violence on tv, drugs, gangs, or any number of things that you can think of.

Thank God my life started with a dad who took the time to teach me right from wrong and spent time with me doing things that men do. Now according to a few hollywood stars and the progressives Men just are not necessary. Let Uncle Sam do the job huh? Well I call BS on that. Men do your jobs, your kids are a blessing from God. Raise them to understand what their proper role is in life. Teach them to be free.... As for the experts...they can go to heck.


11 posted on 08/14/2010 7:23:01 AM PDT by JohnD9207 (John McCain is a proud Ted Kennedy conservative!)
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Houston, Texas, has readily available CCW. Violent crimes in Houston are down, but home burglaries are up slightly for the first six months of this year. Anecdotal evidence is that most home burglaries happen during the hours when residents are away at work.

Freeper thoughts on this article? http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7153017.html

12 posted on 08/14/2010 7:24:19 AM PDT by LOC1
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To: marktwain
While "to exercise my natural, Constitutional right" should always be a sufficient legal answer, this essay provides a bit more ammunition for the uninitiated.

There's no such thing as a "Constitutional Right." The Constitution only described rights granted by God.

15 posted on 08/14/2010 7:39:34 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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Whether to carry or not is a personal choice according to the second amendment and doesn’t really require justification as far as I’m concerned.

I was involved in an incendent many years ago that I was glad a friend of mine had iron handy. I was visiting an old friend who was kind of like the big brother I never had. We were sitting in my car chatting in his driveway sort of late at night and a crazed and jealous ex-boyfriend of mine showed up. I was trying to get him to leave because I didn’t want him bothering me anymore and he was so angry he wasn’t listening. He picked me up and started brutalizing me right there in the driveway.

While this was going on I heard the screen door shut behind me, and the thought flashed through my mind that my friend was taking off on me. This ex of mine was a body builder dude, real big and pretty intimidating so I really couldn’t blame him since he wasn’t a big guy at all.

All of a sudden the ex stopped cold with his eyes as big as saucers and dropped me. Then he started running down the street with my friend chasing behind him with a shot gun.

Then my friend’s mom came out chasing after them screaming for him not to get into trouble, but stopped when she saw me on the ground all battered and bruised.

God only knows what the ex would have done to me if it hadn’t been for my friend with the great equalizer.


16 posted on 08/14/2010 7:40:12 AM PDT by dajeeps
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“my daughter’s boyfriend asked me “Why do you carry a gun?””

I BET he did! Every father with a daughter should at least give the impression of *carrying*. (and possible hostility)


23 posted on 08/14/2010 8:01:18 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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Obama has an entire Entourage with guns to protect him no matter where he goes.
Let him walk around like they like to see the average citizen without any protection.
All the rich and famous ,a lot of whom are against people having guns, can always hire a body guard with a carry permit.
Take away all the guns from the police and see how they make out.
We have put the wrong people in Public office and they treat us with derision.


25 posted on 08/14/2010 8:06:31 AM PDT by chatham
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my daughter’s boyfriend asked me “Why do you carry a gun?”

Next time, or next boyfriend, just tell him you carry a gun because a policeman is too heavy.

27 posted on 08/14/2010 8:19:38 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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My unconditional right to bear arms

The operative word is "unconditional". No America citizen has to explain his reason to own a means of self defense. The purpose can range from paper weights to door stops with no further explanation necessary.

If you haven’t seen this testimony you need to see it now, right now, Suzanna Gratia-Hupp: What the Second Amendment is REALLY For

Pay particular attention to her closing statement with a slow wave of her hand.

29 posted on 08/14/2010 8:37:11 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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That is right, it is against the law for the government to infringe upon any ones rights to keep and bare arms.

anything that will make it harder to do so is an infringement,
permits, size etc.

However private citizens can infringe on our rights where their property is concerned.


30 posted on 08/14/2010 8:41:29 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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Right-wing blogger convicted of threatening Illinois judges
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August 14, 2010

ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW YORK -— A right-wing New Jersey blogger was convicted at his third trial Friday of making threats against three federal judges in Illinois in retaliation for a ruling supporting gun control.

A Brooklyn jury deliberated less than two hours before finding Hal Turner guilty of making death threats.
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Hal Turner faces up to 10 years in prison for making threats.
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A judge jailed Turner, of North Bergen, N.J., following the verdict. His attorney declined comment.

Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Illinois, thanked the jurors for their service.

“There is no place in society for threatening federal judges with violence. Period,” he said in a statement. “We are grateful that the jury saw these threats for what they were and rejected any notion that they were acceptable speech.”

Turner’s mother, Kathy Diamond, said the verdict showed the jury didn’t understand that “the First Amendment was the issue.” She said her son, who is married and has a teenage son, “is a good man.”

“The family is devastated,” she added.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/2598072,blogger-convicted-threats-illinois-judges-081410.article#


32 posted on 08/14/2010 8:54:05 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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>The “worst case scenario” justification should be enough to guarantee the exercise of my constitutional right. But will it?<

I’m not sure exactly why I don’t trust our government or the politicians who make the important decisions but asking them for a permit to carry concealed is just something that has never occurred to me. Then paying them to store that information just can’t be a good idea, can it?

I have never been patted down by an police officer in my 60+ years. However, I have drank coffee and shared jokes with many of them, shot at the range with a couple, asked directions from and even been ticketed by a half dozen. All the while, I was carrying a loaded Model 36 Chiefs Special concealed in an ankle or shoulder holster or had it tucked in a snapped jacket pocket conveniently close by.

If I had to go into a courtroom or city building I would leave it under the seat in my truck until I got back. More than once I have had to show it to local thugs to convince them that I wasn’t their best choice of potential victims.

Asking permission from strangers to carry the tools necessary to protect my family or myself has just never occurred to me. Registration is another thing that just rubs me the wrong way. Why should I tell the only people who possibly would confiscate my firearms what type I have in my possession? That just doesn’t set right with me for some reason.

I’m interested in any answers that you might have that can show me the error of my ways in the past 45 years.


42 posted on 08/14/2010 8:32:44 PM PDT by B4Ranch (America was founded by MARKSMEN, not Marxists.)
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I do not want to carry a weapon.
I do not want to have to shoot someone.
I do not want to live with the knowledge that I have taken a human life.

That being said, everyday I leave the house a Kimber .45 is housed in my belt. The world does not allow me to do as I ‘want’, it forces me to be pragmatic.


49 posted on 08/15/2010 2:53:51 PM PDT by 11Bush
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