Skip to comments.Glenn Beck Is Wrong on the Importance of Homosexual ‘Marriage’
Posted on 08/14/2010 2:58:47 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
Looks like Glenn Beck could have benefited from attending the AFTAH Truth Academy. Beck is a doing incredibly important work in helping to save America from the misnamed progressives but evidently he is woefully ignorant about the real threat that homosexual activism poses to this nation and our precious freedoms. Memo: to Glenn: people of faith like Matt Barber and Julea Ward already have been fired or discriminated against for defending the historic Judeo-Christian sexual ethic. And this began happening before same-sex marriage became the dominant issue in this cultural debate. The oppression will only get worse if homosexual marriage is legalized nationally through an activist court ruling.
I don’t know how to embed it, but there is a very good video at the story link.
Response: The approval and encouragement of this pestilence will result in the 'harvesting' of your sons. You ain't going to believe what is going to happen. Take a look at the Massachusetts experience with the perverts in control, and that is only the beginning.
I used to follow Beck but more and more I find myself question his emotional stability.
I don’t care.
” more and more I find myself question his emotional stability.”
Which makes the Libs extremely happy.
We’ll wait. In the meantime, keep up the good work.
Another thread with a *very* spirited discussion, only one zot so far, though. Almost 500 replies, just since this morning.
If it was only about satisfying the homosexual ego to equate their perverted lifestyle with normal heterosexual marriage, I could probably let it go and agree with the alleged positions of Glenn Beck, Rush and others simply because I'm tired of arguing with them.
But that's not what it is about. What it is about is allowing 2% or so of the population redefine the 6000 year old institution for the 98% or so of us who are normal. They aren't going to stop there.
It is a mistake to make homosexuality a political issue.
The government has no business what happens in our homes.
If you give the government such a power it will end up out of your control, with unintended consequences.
Same with supporting the mosque at Ground Zero. The government has no business saying who can build where on private property. If you open that door, we all will regret it.
btw, mother of two, happily married for almost 30 years now. Keep government out of the moral/social equation totally and the dems/liberals will lose political support.
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Just in case any (more) homosexual agenda pushers show up, please take them apart! Beck is either monumentally ill-informed (hard to believe) or has moral blinders, or wants popularity and thinks that "coming out" against the homosexual agenda will harm that. I have no idea and don't care. Anyone who thinks homosexual marriage or any other part of their agenda doesn't affect them personally or is not destroying our country either just woke up from a 20 year coma or is wearing moral blinders.
Beck claims to be a consitutionalist (his views on homosexual marriage almost make me believe HE is not), and a “Christian”, but neither seem to be true!
IMPACT OF DIVERSITY, HOMOSEXUALITY, FEMINISM AND PC ON THE WEST
I believe it was the EARLY Romans who prohibited several classes of people from holding public office: Those of illegitimate birth (bastards), eunuchs and homosexuals. (That unfortunately changed leading up to the fall.)
While these children had no choice in the matter, bastards were prohibited because, having no sense of their family past or history, they could not be trusted to operate for the good of the culture based on its history or traditions.
Eunuchs (castrated males) and homosexuals because they could not and/or would not sire children and would, therefore, most likely have no abiding interest in preserving the culture for future generations.
While there are a number of exceptions, I’ll let YOU tell me what sort of folks we have in public office HERE today.
It appears that America has employed technology to compress into slightly over 240 years what it took the Romans over 2,000 to achieve — total and utter cultural collapse.
I believe the Romans would also have put radical feminists in that group had they permitted radical feminism at the time. Wisely, they did not. More on that a bit later.
While channel-surfing recently, I stopped for a moment on an Animal Planet show featuring two lesbian roommates. And, no, they were NOT in the bedroom. As I watched, I began pondering the question of the growing impact of homosexuals and radical feminists on our culture.
None of these thoughts are original to me and all have been written about and discussed ad nauseam. This little rant is really an exercise in catharsis.
At the individual level, I have personally known a few homosexuals and, in general, have found them to be quiet, respectful and intelligent. Again, there are exceptions such as the moron from California (where else?) cited below — but I havent personally met them and hope I dont as there would be serious trouble between us.
Having said that, I fear that the homosexual and the recent politically correct fervor to further legitimize that lifestyle has done irreparable harm to our NATIONAL life and what remains of what many of us still call Western European Culture. When that impact is coupled with the rise of radical feminism (youll be pleased to know that the EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT is again being disinterred), the product is a result from which the West may never recover.
Allow me to explain:
The physiological fact is that homosexuals normally do not reproduce. The current population replacement rate the rate necessary to maintain the current native born population level — for the United States is somewhere north of 2 children per couple. Homosexuals usually dont HAVE kids. Add the radical feminist impact which holds that motherhood is some form of slavery and has driven many women to seek fulfillment OUTSIDE the home — and the current birth rate here is disturbingly FAR BELOW 2.1 per couple.
The other side of the demographic coin is that the virtually unrestrained immigration policies of past administrations have brought a huge influx of people from cultures radically different from that which existed here prior to the advent of PC, diversity, tolerance and all the other names by which many now call these self, nation and culture identity destroying behaviors.
Add the millions and millions of illegals who are now placing such a physical and economic burden on the healthcare and school systems that natural born citizens are being taxed to death and/or cannot, themselves, get the services to which they would otherwise be entitled. Its a recipe for chaos.
And the politicians who hope these new welfare recipients will support their perpetual reelection — turn a blind eye.
And as these groups agitate and campaign for THEIR particular flavor of diversity and tolerance, they also give added traction to virtually EVERY OTHER flavor. As they change millions of minds and cause others to reconsider long-standing and time-tested value systems, they are turning our world upside down.
The effect of these factors is that the America in which many of us older folks grew up is disappearing at an alarming rate. As the nation many of us came to love and donned uniforms to defend drifts toward some sort of Balkanized
despotism, large segments of these new arrivals who know little and care even less of the traditions, values and history of this place and even refuse to learn the common tongue — separate themselves into ghetto-like enclaves where outsiders are often not welcomed unless theyre spending money, we run the very serious risk of repeating the experiences of the former Yugoslavia from which some of my people came.
Speaking of whom, my great-great grandparents waited for years then stood in long lines at Ellis Island to be deloused, interrogated and told they had to learn English and our history and traditions and pass a test something the Hispanics and radical Muslim terrorists strolling across the border with Mexico don t have to do.
The Clinton administration well known for its tolerance of the gay lifestyle published some statistics in connection with AIDS that startled many. Of course, the PC then rearing its ugly head prohibited all but the brave from commenting on any of that.
The CDC statistics showed that 85% of all AIDS/HIV cases are
1. Active, non-monogamous homosexuals,
(the largest subset)
2. Heterosexuals and bisexuals who have had sex with group 1 and
3. IV drug abusers who share needles.
(Kinda gives new meaning to Romans 6:23, doesn’t it?)
The remaining 15% are those who have contracted AIDS via other,
non-sexual/non-drug means SUCH AS TRANSFUSIONS OF TAINTED BLOOD (which one homosexual “leader” on the West Coast URGED his fellow homosexuals to CONTINUE to attempt to contaminate in order to involve the straight community in the push to increase federal funding for AIDS research).
So, with the population replacement rate practically down to zero, we have some leaders of the homosexual community who do nothing to help raise that rate encouraging their members to make ill or kill those of us who have and/or are having and raising kids here.
I find it fascinating that many members of the homosexual community and the radical feminists are on the front line of the assault on traditional values and seek to replace them with more tolerance, diversity and other politically correct nonsense. They have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
While their activities have produced short-term benefits for them, that diversity, tolerance and egalitarianism have also opened the door to the idea that no culture is better than any other. Obama apparently having confused Chicago with America — spent days recently apologizing to everyone he met for our defective, decadent and corrupt culture.
And that has brought to our shores a formerly foreign culture, the more radical elements of which are breeding at a rate well in excess of the rate among the indigenous LEGAL and NATURAL BORN population.
And, just as it already has in Great Britain and continental Europe, with those increasing numbers will come increased political and social power.
And with that will surely come a foreign theology and law system.
And that foreign theology thatd be Islam— and law system thatd be Sharia — DOES NOT TOLERATE HOMOSEXUALITY and regards WOMEN AS CHATTEL WHO HAVE NO PERSONAL RIGHTS LET ALONE THE SORT OF FREEDOM TO WHICH THE FEMINISTS ARE ACCUSTOMED.
The bottom line, gays and ladies? You will either fall under the sword (put to death for you government school folk) or confined to the house unless your man who will beat you periodically wants to take you out, in which case you will be garbed from head to toe. And, only HE can drive the car. Where are Betty Freidan, Bella Abzug and Gloria Steinham when we really need them?
Heres a short video clip of the reward your PC destruction of traditional American values will bring you.
A number of years ago, a writer posited that there was a War Against Boys within and without the government school system. He opined that little boys were being psychologically and emotionally emasculated by millions of female teachers and others in the America of John Wayne.
We have now entered the era of the feminized metrosexual (one now occupies the White House) where boys are discouraged often prohibited — from playing games with toy plastic guns, rubber knives or other weapons. Feminists, if it hadnt been for millions of young men with REAL guns venturing forth from time-to-time to face down very rough folks with designs on this country and YOU — your freedom (albeit shrinking thanks largely to our having become the Metrosexual States of America) to promulgate your radical worldview would not exist.
So there you have it.
Id urge you to think about these things while there MIGHT still be time to alter course.
PS: I had to get this out of my system BEFORE the new, improved congress passes the pending legislation making it a crime to post ANYTHING on the web that could in any way cause ANYONE emotional distress. Would it matter that it was factual? Nope! While its probable that the Supremes will rule it a violation of the First Amendment, Id rather not squander my kids small inheritance on lawyers bringing the case.
They can be as gay as they want, they can shack up however they want, but if they want to use the power of the law to make me recognize it as being equivelent to marriage, that's when I put my foot down and refuse.
Marriage is a union before the creator of a man and a woman, period. Since the government has abandoned recognizing it as being such, they've lost the need to recognize and regulate it as well.
Get government out of the marriage business, since they can't be bothered to recognize what it means.
You’ve got it backwards.
The homosexuals are the ones politicizing the issue. They’re the ones forcing same sex marriage, teaching homo-sex ed in schools, practicing sodomy on street parades, in parks, beaches, etc; forcing “tolerance” in the workplace, hassling the Boy Scouts for not allowing them in their organization, agitating for homosexuals in the military, and on and on - up to and including hate speech and hate crimes.
WE’RE not the ones politicizing it, THEY are! We’re just fighting back, as we should.
Yes - I was thinking of that on the other thread. They remember what happened to Dr. Laura. Exactly.
But it's not restricted to the home now is it? No...it's shoved in our faces and it has infected every facet of our society and our society is crumbling because of its depravity.
Apparently you have not reviewed the earlier thread regarding this or reviewed the Folsom depravity posted on the first page: http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/index.php
I can't make it linkable because of the HTML code I've used but simply cut and paste and take a look at what you seem to consider 'benign' behavior.
BTW...the mosque at ground zero is a completely separate issue; no less inflammatory but not a good example to use regarding this abomination we are confronted with. That(ground -O-) is another abomination worthy of a separate thread.
I agree with you. BOR was trying to paint Beck into a corner, and he was smart enough to respond that he believes that the States should govern themselves, not the feds, not activist judges, not anyone. That is why the Civil War was fought. Contrary to belief that it was about Slavery, it was about States Rights. In fact, It was called the War against Northern Agression in the South.
I knew the Chalkboard Disciples were pervert loving fools.
It is a mistake to make homosexuality a political issue.Really? The left has done just that, and changed society.
The government has no business what happens in our homes.Really? So you can kill in private and that is OK? How about rape? Drug deals? Counterfeiting? And how about the government schools promoting this conduct?
Aside from what he thinks of it, I guess he’s okay with judges ruling our country.
“Get government out of the marriage business, since they can’t be bothered to recognize what it means.”
I agree, although it doesn’t seem to be too popular of an opinion on FR.
A piece of paper from the gubberment doesnt make anyone more or less married, according to my faith, no matter the legal benifits it can give. Its just a shame that the govt has the power to punish if one disagrees with the states bizarre and mutating definition of marriage.
Government has an almost perfect record of messing up whatever it is involved with. Like marriage. On the other hand, my faith has a perfect record and has never forced anyone to accept impossibilities like gay marriage. If it was left to folkss faiths, I would be free to accept someones marriage based on what my faith says about it, not whatever the state claims. Sexualy active homsexualists commit sin even if they have a piece of paper from the gubberment, and there is nothing that the state can do about it. There is also nothing the gubberment can do to stop God blessing real marriage.
The govt is probly never going to give up its involvement in marriage, to that institutions detriment. It affords too much control in the culture, and is a great weapon for the Enemy. Do you think the homosexualists want the gubberment to quit defining marriage? Not hardly. They want govt to be able to regulate marriage, or at least fool folks into thinking it does, forcing and conditioning folks to accept an impossibility like gay marriage, contrary to what their faith teaches about it.
The bottom line is that true Christianity and many other faiths are never going to change the true definition of marriage, which is very comforting. After all, thats really all that matters.
Anyone who says “don’t make morality political” is either blind or can’t think. That horse left the barn years ago. Only the made immorality a government mandate!
Throughout history, there has always been legal recognition of marriage for inheritance, paternity and so on. To pretend otherwise is pure fantasy.
LOL!!! I had to quit listening to Beck. He was driving me nuts as well as Hannity. Down here I don’t get him but a teckie fixed up my computer where I can get Rush at my convenience ... so at least I can listen to him later. People ask me who he is and then when they listen to him when I do they’re amazed at what he says ... there are talk shows here that are similar ....
Our society has changed so much. Why? Partly because there are those who refuse to see the impact of those who wash their hands of moral issues. Our grandparents and great grandparents would be shocked.
It’s a lie. Morality matters. Character matters. Belief in God matters.
Hey, don’t sweat it. The gov’t is never going to get its beak out of marriage.
“Throughout history, there has always been legal recognition of marriage for inheritance, paternity and so on.”
Hows that been working out recently?
“To pretend otherwise is pure fantasy.”
I’m not pretending anything, FRiend.
Hey ... still down here in Oz ....
May I suggest you miss a part of the equation.
Government established by the people under God recognizing unalienable rights endowed the people by the Creator and tasked with protecting such rights can NOT remove itself from the moral equation. To do so would be to retreat from upholding the very basis of our government and individual freedom.
The problem here is not that government is involved in morality -the problem is that government assists those who attempt to redefine it. Instead of government defending we government taking a backseat while at the same time assisting those that in essence seek to destroy that which is unalienable by redefining it...
Society chose to value, reward and protect marriage and family LONG before government came along -government simply carries out social mandate when for instance providing tax breaks for children and or legal standing in many regards between husband and wife. Government did not grant these things just as government did not grant life or liberty. How can government redefine these things that the Creator endowed us with? If the rights emanate from the Creator so do as well the definitions.
Thank you for an excellent post.
Yes. Excellent post.
How is Oz?
A strong, traditional family is essential in our industrialized societies. This is Sociology 101.
Arguments in support of this can be found in what sometimes is referred to as the Great Russian experiment - actions taken by the Communists in the late 1930s and early 1940s to eliminate the family, religion, and other institutions. To accomplish their goal, they made marriage irrelevant, used propaganda to attack family as bourgeois, etc. The result was such widespread chaos, that the Communists had no choice but to start emphasizing the important of marriage and family even though it went contrary to their ideology.
“It is a mistake to make homosexuality a political issue.”
I tend to agree more with Reagan, in that our government must be very careful not to endorse such a destructive lifestyle choice. To ratify homosexual ‘marriage’ would be a very dangerous mistake. Reagan was right.
“At the individual level, I have personally known a few homosexuals and, in general, have found them to be quiet, respectful and intelligent.”
I don’t see how that’s relevant at all. Wasn’t the renowned homosexual Jeffrey Dalhmer also known as a quiet, reserved, dedicated worker among his acquaintances?
“The physiological fact is that homosexuals normally do not reproduce.”
That is precisely the point. They themselves have admitted that their lifestyle will die out unless they recruit. That is why they are constantly pushing to legitimize the perversion (State sanctioned ‘gay’ marriage) and indoctrinate in the schools. Doesn’t Glenn see that?
IOW, “if everything was all different, everything would be all different”.
If these right-wing talkers think that without this social issue they have me in their corner they’re wrong. We keep sticking our finger in God’s eye and think that he is going to bless this country? Fools.
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