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Don't look, birthers: Obama's passport
Politico ^ | August 17, 2010 | Josh Gerstein

Posted on 08/17/2010 11:13:03 AM PDT by Natural Born 54

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To: TheCipher
Cipher,

Your analysis is fatally flawed.

What you're reading on page 6 as "UNITED" is actually the word "VISA". The word you're reading as "STATE", is actually "ETATS", and the word after that is "SCHENGEN".

What you're seeing on pg 6 is a French Visa.

The really hilarious thing is that just this morning Orly Taitz filed a motion with SCOTUS using your analysis as a basis for her motion. Epic Fail.

Take a look again at the YouTube video in HD. Here's a screenshot:


441 posted on 08/19/2010 10:39:20 AM PDT by GreatGrey (It's a French Visa people.)
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To: jamese777

Go to the Supreme Court web site and search the dockets for “Obama - Kagan”....

Why am I not surprised?????????
http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-6790.htm

Well, someone finally figured out why Obama nominated Elana Kagan for the Supreme Court.... Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search for Obama.

She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship. He owes her big time. All of the requests were denied of course. They were never heard. It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn’t it?

The American people mean nothing any longer. It’s all about payback time for those that compromised themselves to elect someone that really has no true right to even be there. We should be getting so sick of all of this nonsense. The USA has finally become the laughing stock of the world.


442 posted on 08/19/2010 12:26:08 PM PDT by Segovia (Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.)
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To: Segovia
She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship.

And who was the Solicitor General for all of the other lawsuits the US Government is privy too?

443 posted on 08/19/2010 12:29:52 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Pilsner

are you saying that in that capacity, she could not have influenced the federal cases brought against Obama, and whether they were thrown out on technicalities?


444 posted on 08/19/2010 12:40:23 PM PDT by Segovia (Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.)
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To: TheCipher; edge919; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ..
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. . . . TROLLS are busy today.

Just ignore 'em or make fun of them. . . . . FR is the only place where they feel important because of inadequacies in other areas of their lives.

Check out # 419, and see photos:

Here is more evidence that they are holding the stamp page of one passport over the signature page of another passport.

Look at the picture of a passport again.

What they did in the video was hold the stamp page of one passport over the signature page of another passport.

The following shifts topics, but we can read and chew gum at the same time:

# 432 , especially point # 2 states: the newspaper announcements list a residence never associated with 0bama’s father, indicating the possibility of being fraudulent registered.

[Thanks, TheCipher.]

445 posted on 08/19/2010 1:03:59 PM PDT by LucyT (~We lived in the best place, in the best of times, in all of human history. .- LucyT)
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To: Segovia
are you saying that in that capacity, she could not have influenced the federal cases brought against Obama, and whether they were thrown out on technicalities?

I'm saying that Birther lawsuits area all a joke. Period. Every one, because only Congress can remove the President from office.

Rather than accept that simple fact, and do something useful, like elect Republicans to Congress, Birthers look for other reasons that they always lose, and hit upon conspiracy theories, such as, (and this is a new one to me) the Solicitor General (improperly I assume) influenced the federal cases.

Folks, there is a reason why no attorney capable of fixing a parking ticket will take Birther cases. You don't have a case, no matter how much you want to have one. Birthers speculating about a "fix" causing Birther cases to lose can be compared to proponents of a perpetual motion machine speculating about how there must be a "fix" by some shadowy conspiracy that keeps influencing the test results, and causing the perpetual motion machine to not work.

No, the problem is that perpetual motion isn't possible, just as the courts can't remove the President from office. BO doesn't need to "fix" Birther cases, any more than the physics establish would need to fix trials of a perpetual motion machine.

Waiting for whiny rebuttal along lines of: "But BO isn't President, so he isn't in office, so that rule doesn't apply." I put the over/under at three posts.

446 posted on 08/19/2010 1:08:38 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: LucyT

bump


447 posted on 08/19/2010 1:09:53 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: LucyT; TheCipher
"# 432 , especially point # 2 states: the newspaper announcements list a residence never associated with 0bama’s father, indicating the possibility of being fraudulent registered.

That's right. Not only that, but the "announcements" in the newspaper don't give the name of the child so how could that be used as proof of the announcement of HIS birth without question?

Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed the parents (or grandparents or other relative) of baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate. A mailed-in form (without mention of a hospital, doctor, or midwife) signed by one of his grandparents (who forged the parent signature(s)) would have been enough to set up a birth record and a birth certificate at the Dept of Health. The Dept of Health would (presumably) then have automatically sent the names of the parents, their address as given on the mailed-in form , the gender of the child, and the date of birth to the Honolulu Advertiser and Star-Bulletin. The address given for the parents in the newspaper announcements is actually, however, the August 1961 home address of Obama’s maternal grandparents Stanley and Madelyn Dunham [6085 Kalanianaole Highway], and not the 1961 home address of Barack Obama, Sr. [625 11th Ave].)

It's easy to see how Barry, if born in Kenya, would have been registered by his Grandma (who's address appears in the announcement) for a HI b.c. based on the law in effect at the time.

448 posted on 08/19/2010 1:27:32 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: edge919

“There are several types of statutory citizens at birth that clearly aren’t natural born citizens.”

If you are a citizen at birth in the US, you will be eligible to be President. Unless you have a court statement or ruling backing up your view, that’s just your own supposition/definition, contrary to common understanding of the term.


449 posted on 08/19/2010 2:17:58 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: WOSG; edge919
"If you are a citizen at birth in the US, you will be eligible to be President."

Anchor babies, born in the U.S. (currently "granted" citizenship) with the possibility of triple citizenships are Natural Born Citizens?

You mean the framers put the NBC requirement in for ONLY the Commander in Chief of the armed forces to include persons born with foreign allegiance(s)?

450 posted on 08/19/2010 2:22:00 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: WOSG; edge919

b.t.w. What difference did the framers intend between a NBC for POTUS and a “citizen” for Reps and Senators? What was the difference between a “natural born” citizen...and a “citizen” in 1787?


451 posted on 08/19/2010 2:26:25 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: LucyT
What they did in the video was hold the stamp page of one passport over the signature page of another passport.

Errr, no.

It's a French (Schengen) Visa.

Live with it.
452 posted on 08/19/2010 3:03:28 PM PDT by GreatGrey
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To: Pilsner

“I’m saying that Birther lawsuits area all a joke. Period. Every one, because only Congress can remove the President from office.”

Yes, it does help sometimes to actually READ the Constitution to find out what it says. Read up on impeachment, folks, its the only path.

“Folks, there is a reason why no attorney capable of fixing a parking ticket will take Birther cases. You don’t have a case, no matter how much you want to have one.”

LOL.


453 posted on 08/19/2010 3:07:10 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: GreatGrey

Take it up with the person who posted the comment. I don’t make the news, I just report it.


454 posted on 08/19/2010 3:08:44 PM PDT by LucyT (~We lived in the best place, in the best of times, in all of human history. .- LucyT)
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To: rxsid

“Anchor babies, born in the U.S. (currently “granted” citizenship)”

Are they citizens at birth or not?

I think Congress could write a law that says they are not citizens at birth. But today, they are...


455 posted on 08/19/2010 3:10:21 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: edge919

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink.

Evidence of anything other than Honolulu birth: Zero.


456 posted on 08/19/2010 3:20:15 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Natural Born 54; LucyT; pissant; BP2; Red Steel; autumnraine; thouworm; Beckwith; Frantzie; ...
What's obviously irregular about the alleged Obama passport is that the place of birth was listed as "Hawaii, USA." Ordinarily, the format for a place of birth within the United States is a city (or other locality), followed by a state, followed by USA. A specific city or locality would be the first item listed for a place of birth of a foreign born individual as well.

Also, after the fixed "Place of Birth" followed by a slash, the French translation should start with the word "Lieu" which is barely decipherable. It's the only word on that line that is. Why?

457 posted on 08/19/2010 3:42:04 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

They cannot even dummy up the phony Passport for the Imam.


458 posted on 08/19/2010 3:48:59 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE)
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To: justiceseeker93
What's obviously irregular about the alleged Obama passport is that the place of birth was listed as "Hawaii, USA." Ordinarily, the format for a place of birth within the United States is a city (or other locality), followed by a state, followed by USA. A specific city or locality would be the first item listed for a place of birth of a foreign born individual as well.

Also, after the fixed "Place of Birth" followed by a slash, the French translation should start with the word "Lieu" which is barely decipherable. It's the only word on that line that is. Why


The "ordinary format", as you word it, is State and County. Don't believe me, look at the "example passport" that TheCipher posted in his comment #419. His passport shows just Massachusetts, USA.

As to your second point, the full line reads,"Place of birth / Lieu de naissance / Lugar de nacimiento" Why you're having trouble reading it from the photo posted is pretty obvious, it's a crummy screen capture. Take a look at the video on YouTube, and select the HD version.
459 posted on 08/19/2010 4:15:19 PM PDT by GreatGrey
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To: justiceseeker93

Nope my current one from two years ago says Texas, USA. I think my old ones were like you are saying and said Waco, Texas.


460 posted on 08/19/2010 4:18:00 PM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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