Posted on 08/19/2010 6:22:26 AM PDT by La Lydia
The suits at KFC — the restaurant chain that used to be called, proudly, Kentucky Fried Chicken — have claimed that their 2009 decision to emphasize grilled chicken and sandwiches was based on “extensive consumer research.” I don’t find their assertion credible. I think they were trying to adjust the company’s direction and marketing strategy to their perception of the prevailing political and social attitudes about obesity. I don’t think the execs carefully considered how their consumers would react, particularly to ad campaigns that explicitly repudiated the fried-chicken brand of KFC.
I’m not alone in drawing these conclusions. KFC franchisees are livid about the resulting loss of business. They have sued the parent company to wrest control of KFC marketing from execs who fail to understand that, in the words of one franchisee, “by and large the general public doesn’t give a damn how many calories are in it.” After all, dieters and health-nazis are unlikely to make up a significant share of the KFC customer base in any event.
What’s the larger significance of KFC’s internal battles? In both the public and private sectors, far too many decisions are made on the basis of silly fads, partial glimpses of nebulous trends, a temptation to placate powerful interest groups, or a pathetic desire to be seen as enlightened. In the private sector, companies sometimes waste time and money on pointless public-relations exercises, senseless recycling programs, and the like.
But subjected to the rigors of competition, these firms tend to pay the price over time and adjust their behavior accordingly. In the public sector, however, politicians don’t have to worry as much about losing ground to competitors. Their absurdities persist. Their pretensions multiply.
Leaders who make hard-headed decisions on the basis of valid empirical evidence, logical reasoning, and sound priorities tend to do well. Leaders who chicken out and pander tend to fail in the long run — except in safe political districts, where they can afford to screw up, hang around, and accumulate rent-controlled apartments.
They were giving it away to the roasted chicken folks, and I much appreciated their effort to win me back.
The Colonel would be dismayed.
I love fried chicken but KFC scares me. I’ve talked to too many people with horror stories about what goes on in those places.
Popeye’s chicken in better, anyway.
In my town the deli section of most grocery stores sells fried chicken that is much better than KFC. KFC is a grease bomb - it makes White Castles look healthy.
Ditto.
I used to love KFC but I can’t eat it now it is so bad.
In our neck of the woods, Bojangles is king.
They “used-to-have” a good product.
The worst problem right now with KFC restaurants is...
KFC restaurants.
I have not been back to the one in my town since a couple of years ago when I went by to get a bucket and they told me they were out of chicken. I laughed, I thought I was on candid-camera or something... they were serious.
Leaders who make hard-headed decisions on the basis of valid empirical evidence, logical reasoning, and sound priorities tend to do well. Leaders who chicken out and pander tend to fail in the long run — except in safe political districts, where they can afford to screw up, hang around, and accumulate rent-controlled apartments.”
There is really an important epistemological point here. Getting to the truth of a social phenomenon is really best obtained through a means that is objective, non-emotional, and far-flung, ie, a price mechanism is the best thing in the economic context. If sales were good under “original recipe” then the rational thing would be to leave it alone if the company wants to profit (obviously, that is not the only goal of the shareholders....). Next to the price mechanism would be a reputable poll or focus group, but that has to be very, very hard-headed and done by a firm with no agendas other than arriving at some conclusions. That could then resemble their “extensive market research.” But that clearly wasn’t the case here, any more than it was in the 80s with “New Coke”.
In this regard, the epistemology of something like Hayek’s libertarianism and Burke’s conservatism are very similar - and very applicable.
In any event, listening to one person or loud interest group who has an agenda is clearly a way to get off into the weeds. All the time.
Get off in the weeds, and screw your franchisees.
I love Popeye’s chicken but I can’t eat it because of the cooking oil they use. I don’t have anything against their oil, except that it disagrees with me. Since I really like their chicken, it bums me out.
In my neighborhood, the Giant used to sell the best friend chicken around. Customers would hang around and stand in line to get it. Then the corporate people came in, rearranged the store and moved the chicken frying operation from the deli to the meat department. Now it just sucks, and the butcher tells me they are selling only 10 percent of what they used to sell. They did the same thing to their fried fish, with the same result.
I used to like their chicken too, but now it just seems greasier and nasty. Like you, I’ve not been comfortable with the local franchise either. Last time we went, I had to ask the girl at the counter to repeat herself several times because I couldn’t understand her version of “minority-speak”. The service was also verrrrry slow. No thanks.
I'm sick and tired of ignorant people talking about things they don't know. My family and I have been eating fried foods for generations and we have never had health problems. STOP ATTACKING MY FRIED CHICKEN!
Yes. They deserve this lawsuit.
A franchise agreement is..well...a contract.
Seems like the greenie weenies / fat police are about to find that out. (At least I hope so....)
Me too. KFC used to be my favorite fast food place; let alone “chicken” place.
I’ve been there a just handful of times over the last few years. Quality and taste is way down, the place is filthy, I haven’t gotten a correct order in years, and the staff latino/ebonics language in unintelligible.
I now go to Bojangles or Popeye’s for chicken (farther away and really out-of-the-way) and elsewhere in general.
Sad. I used to LOVE KFC.
What’s completely missing from this article is a shred of evidence that KFC’s addition to its menu has hurt its bottom line.
A political analysis of what the author thinks or believes what went on in the boardroom tells us more about the author than what went on in the boardroom.
Sugars (ie. glucose) becomes fat in the body. Where do those sugars come from? Carbs (ie. bread, pasta, cereal, rice).”
You are SO right and it is pathetic as to how little this is realized!
There is a whole lot in this story to get pissed about!!!
I am with you on that. There is nothing wrong with fried chicken, and everyone no matter what they eat needs to get some exercise. This is the nanny state intruding into people’s business in every sense of the word. Note that the KFC debacle is the result of the marketing department, not the cooking-good-food-that-people-actually-want-to-eat department. Now I will probably gross you out: My favorite way to eat good fried chicken is slathered with homemade mayonnaise. Try it, you’ll like it. Nor am I a 500 pound behemoth, or anything like it.
That happened to my husband and me once at Arby’s...except of course they had run out of roast beef. You would think they would have run to all the delis in town and bought up the roast beef. But no, they just told all their customers they were out. LOL.
What? Is that some kind of cruel torture?
How did you survive?
“I love Popeye’s chicken but I can’t eat it because of the cooking oil they use. I don’t have anything against their oil, except that it disagrees with me. Since I really like their chicken, it bums me out.”
I understand. Liberals disagree with me, so I have a little to do with them as I can, but I don’t love them.
HHHHhhhhmmmmm.
I haven’t been in a KFC for years. I found Hartz. Great chicken and their buffet is excellent too.
I also like HEB, Walmart and Kroger. It just occurred to me that I eat more fried chicken than ever and none of it is KFC.
We eat a lot at Chic-Fil-A now.
Heck, they’re even CLOSED on Sundays. What a statement.
Yes, I prefer cousins fried in original recipe. I probably could have worded that first sentence better. :p
Again, there is nothing suggesting that it is the addition to the menu that is causing the loss of business. No demonstration of it at all. 1 billion in sales in the first year of promoting grilled chicken. http://www.newser.com/story/77826/kfc-sued-over-shift-from-fried-to-grilled.html
If I were to hazard a guess at the drop in business, I would look to issues like the economic downturn, competition, cleanliness of their stores, factors like those. And as I read it, the lawsuit is about who controls the advertising dollars. A bit of ‘taxation without representation’, if you will.
As has been mentioned on this thread, folks seem to like Popeyes and Bojangles food better, not because KFC has grilled chicken on their menu, but because the other outlets have better fried chicken. Something I would tend to agree with.
You’re right. I am positive you know more about this subject that the franchise owners, despite their experiences, and can only suggest you share your wisdom with them. I am sure they will be grateful and appreciative.
Oh, man, Hartz is great! I only wish there was one around where I live. My wife and I make a point of stopping at the Hartz restaurant near the BlueBell Ice Cream plant between Austin and Houston every time we pass that way. What great food ... buffet, all-you-can-eat, with deep-fried chicken livers ...
Hartz is da bomb. I did not know there was one in Brenham close to the Bluebell Ice Cream plant. A twofer!!!
I apologize. I thought this was an open thread in the News/Activism Forum, not a caucus thread in the Religion Forum.
Got it. Opinions unwanted.
Our immediate area has broad choice - Chic Fil A, KFC, Sonic and Whataburger. CFA is always jammed in spite of not being open on Sunday. Employees are friendly, efficient, well spoken and exhibit customer appreciation skills and training. KFC and Sonic rarely have anyone waiting. Whataburger tends to have a steady stream - having an American flag and “In God we Trust” motto on the window certainly helps.
Not just folks in the south. My grandma (being from good German parents) cooked potatoes for darn near every meal. Breakfast was often fried potatoes, bacon, an egg and toast. If there were no leftovers from supper the night before, she’d be cooking again for lunch. My grandpa loved battered and fried eggplant. She fried steaks, fish, ground beef and made fried chicken to just die for. The difference? My grandparents, mom and uncles worked their butts off on the farm. I learned to cook from my mom and grandma, but needless to say, we can’t eat like that ‘cause we’re not as active. But am I giving up forever fried chicken, white gravy and potatoes? No way! It’s worth walking an extra mile for.
BTW, my grandma and mom’s fried chicken ruined me for KFC.
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