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1 posted on 08/19/2010 7:53:47 AM PDT by Qbert
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Sure, the automaker looks in pretty decent shape thanks to last year’s bankruptcy clean-up,

Wait, you mean it was the bankruptcy clean-up rather than the government bailout that has helped Government Motors to get into better shape? Why didn't we just let the bankruptcy cleanup happen first? (Seems like I remember some of us around here suggesting that.)

2 posted on 08/19/2010 7:56:23 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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patriots do not buy GM products


3 posted on 08/19/2010 7:56:59 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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I suggest Pelosi investigate those people who don’t buy GM cars.


4 posted on 08/19/2010 7:59:48 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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GM Needs to Double Earnings to Repay Taxpayers

Ahem ... businesses use cash flow, not book income, i.e. earnings, to pay their bills.

So how much more cash does Government Motors need to generate to repay the bondholders that were screwed in the government takeover ... and how many Chevy Volts do the idiots have to peddle in order to do this?

5 posted on 08/19/2010 8:04:17 AM PDT by Zakeet (Mark Steyn: We're too broke to be this stupid)
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There are only three ways to increase profitability – increase revenues, reduce costs or innovate.

I don't see Government Motors able to do it.

6 posted on 08/19/2010 8:06:28 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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I am sure the o cabal will be buying gummint motors fleets with our tax dollars.


7 posted on 08/19/2010 8:07:34 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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According to GM, they already paid back those loans.


16 posted on 08/19/2010 8:20:37 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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When I walk through my company parking lot I always notice there is only one late model car with peeling paint. Guess who made it? GM has 20+ years of perception of producing junk to overcome. The bailout just reinforced the image of an invalid corporation that doesn’t care what it produces.


18 posted on 08/19/2010 8:22:16 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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We should consider the money given to GM sunk-costs (lost forever) and just get out.

The dangers that arise from the federal govenment owning a stake in a private enterprise (especially one as large and important as GM) far outweigh any money the taxpayers may lose.

Money lost is just money. Losing our freedoms is a different story.

I vote lose the money and keep the freedom.


22 posted on 08/19/2010 8:46:40 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The next step for the Tea Party--The Conservative Hand--is available at Amazon.com)
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Sigh, getting old is hell

55 chev with a 283 four barrel, 57 chev with a 301, rich guy down the blocks 409, the incredible 83 goat, 396’s, 427 Camero’s, sleeper Chev II with a 327....

how could a company that produced so many fond memories have turned into such a POS.

23 posted on 08/19/2010 8:50:04 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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How long before GM is in the tank again?


24 posted on 08/19/2010 8:54:59 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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“low-margin industry”.... yeah made so low by the Unions... I once saw the figures on how much of the cost of each vehicle produced in a UAW plant is directly associated with UAM demands and benefits.

Why is it that the Japanese (and Koreans now) build plants generally in “right to work states”? Simple - they are not forced to recognize the unions.

My Nissan Titan (built in Mississippi by non UAW workers) has been a better vehicle than my last new vehicle (a GM product). While it has had a couple of recalls - they have not been major issues, and were not safety-related. The initial quality off the dealer’s lot is better, I haven’t had the odd quirks of the GM I had either.

By the way - my Titan is a 2009. The vehicle it replaced was a 2008 Chevrolet Impala. It had all sorts of quirks - though a fairly nice vehicle. It just had so many little issues - that the GM dealerships didn’t want to recognize (even when they could be demonstrated in their presence). Noises, water leaks on window/door gaskets, funny shifting transmission, delivered with a warped power steering pulley, paint that didn’t want to stick, etc.

My first Dodge truck was a 2000 model - it was made in a UAW plant. It was a pretty good truck (though it had some issues - most notably, a transmission sensor that after 3 visits resulted in a brand new transmission), a leaky water pump housing, and some various paint issues itself.

Bought a 2002 Ram (same model/trim level) but made in the plant in Mexico - not UAW, I don’t believe... was actually a better made truck, particularly in fit-and-finish. And this was the first year model of a brand new body and interior, plus the first year of the 4.7L V8. That truck was great, and I still miss it. I had no issues at all with it, and kick myself in the tail every time I think about it. The vehicle that followed that was a 2004 Chevrolet Tahoe - liked the look and room. Got fair gas mileage... had issues - especially with Delphi-produced electronics (entire gauge cluster had to be replaced...).

Wife had a 2002 Oldsmobile Intrigue - and thank GOD for the extended warranty we purchased. A/C went out at 60K miles. Transmission grenaded at 76K miles, insanely complicated emissions equipment (electric pumps that push fresh air into the exhaust just before the cats - at over $1K each - that were engineered with an opening that scooped water any time it rained hard... thus failed regularly...

The list could go on...

Get rid of the union - and make wages and benefits more in-line with the real world, and GM could be profitable and out of debt to taxpayers in short order. But that won’t happen...


25 posted on 08/19/2010 9:00:49 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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RE :”Being generous to GM, assume the company should trade on the same price-to-earnings multiple as Ford — 6.4 times next year’s consensus earnings estimates, according to Reuters. The U.S. Treasury converted $43 billion of emergency loans into a 61 percent equity stake in the revamped GM that emerged from Chapter 11. That means the Motown manufacturer has to be worth about $70 billion for Uncle Sam to break even.

This is Democrats call a ‘success’. Better yet, GM is shipping jobs to Mexico using the TARP money to open plants there.

26 posted on 08/19/2010 9:03:51 AM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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