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Court: Religious N.C. College Can't Have Police
Fox News ^ | August 19, 2010 | AP

Posted on 08/19/2010 4:59:34 PM PDT by nmh

RALEIGH, N.C. – A prestigious North Carolina private college cannot have police officers with the power to arrest suspects and enforce state law because the school is a religious institution, the state Court of Appeals ruled Tuesday.

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Allowing the school's security officers to carry out laws on behalf of the state violates the U.S. Constitution's prohibition against laws establishing religion by creating "an excessive government entanglement with religion," Judge Jim Wynn wrote in the unanimous opinion.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: christ; christian; christianity; colloege; donutwatch; leo; persecution; police; private; religious
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Hmmmm

The police power "is an unconstitutional delegation of 'an important discretionary governmental power' to a religious institution in the context of the First Amendment," Wynn wrote before he left the state bench to join the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals last week.

The unanimous ruling means there's no automatic appeal to the state Supreme Court. If an appeal is sought, judges Donna Stroud and Cheri Beasley urged the Supreme Court to consider the case to clarify whether a college or university with a religious affiliation should be allowed to receive the delegated authority if it doesn't seek to impose beliefs or indoctrinate students.

(Is this Bob Jones University that they are talking about?)

1 posted on 08/19/2010 4:59:40 PM PDT by nmh
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Home come SECULAR Universities and Colleges are allowed to protect themselves and apply the law to criminals?
2 posted on 08/19/2010 5:01:23 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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So no faith based college in america, including Notre Dame, Marquette, tec, can have campus police?

That’s fine, just let all the students carry and conceal.

Problem solved.


3 posted on 08/19/2010 5:03:37 PM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz (HALLELUJAH)
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platemaker50

@uhhhhh It’s fun to watch Christians persecuted for once instead of the other way around.+++++evidently you have no clue what a rear Christan is and the attitude one is suppose to carry toward others that claims to be of the faith,any person or persons that would accept persecution of any individual regardless of the reason is morally bankrupt. Basically what these judges have done is left the school wide open to the criminal element.

Thursday, August 19, 2010 at 4:12 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/19/court-religious-nc-college-police/#

Even the nasty LEFT gets it!


4 posted on 08/19/2010 5:04:14 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Bob Jones is in South Carolina, not NC. It’s Davidson College.


5 posted on 08/19/2010 5:04:45 PM PDT by Campion
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So basically instead of arresting an offender and taking them to the local lockup, they have to detain them at the university, call a local police officer and have him pick up the perp and drive him to the lock up?


6 posted on 08/19/2010 5:04:48 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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Thanks!

DAvidson College

Davidson College is a private liberal arts college in Davidson, North Carolina. The college has graduated 23 Rhodes Scholars and is consistently ranked in the top ten liberal arts colleges in the country by U.S. News and World Report magazine.[1]

Both the town and college were named after Brigadier General William Lee Davidson, a Revolutionary War commander. The land for the college came from General Davidson’s estate, a large portion of which was donated by his son. The college was established by Presbyterians in 1837 and maintains a loose affiliation with that denomination. According to its Statement of Purpose, “the ties that bind the college to its Presbyterian heritage . . . have remained close and strong” but the dedication of the college “extends beyond the Christian community to the whole of humanity and necessarily includes openness to and respect for the world’s various religious traditions.”[2] Majors are offered in over twenty fields, as are several minors and self-designed interdisciplinary options.

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According to The Princeton Review, Davidson is ranked among the top twenty colleges nationally for the following categories:

“Best Overall Academic Experience For Undergraduates,”

“Professors Get High Marks (#1),”

“Professors Make Themselves Accessible (#16),”

“Students Study the Most(#10),”

“School Runs Like Butter (#4),

” “Town-Gown Relations are Great (#3),”

“Easiest Campus to Get Around (#3),” and

“Best Quality of Life (#16).” [3]

It’s no wonder the LEFT want them unprotected.


7 posted on 08/19/2010 5:08:30 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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So, THIS is how the government will be attempting to crush private colleges: forbid defense against illegality.

Gee, what parent wouldn’t want to send a child to such a place?


8 posted on 08/19/2010 5:09:37 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

People pay inflated taxes to the police - they have a right to the service.


9 posted on 08/19/2010 5:10:24 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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That’s the idea!

Hang the kids out to dry with NO PROTECION and criminals will take care of it.


10 posted on 08/19/2010 5:11:17 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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“That’s fine, just let all the students carry and conceal.”

Perfect solution. The school can offer a target range and hold training classes for newbies. They’re enrollment would boom with the publicity.


11 posted on 08/19/2010 5:11:44 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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oops - didn’t read the whole article - sorry.


12 posted on 08/19/2010 5:12:01 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

People pay inflated taxes to the police - they have a right to the service.

BUt it appears that YOUR taxes will ONLY protect kids at SECULAR schools.


13 posted on 08/19/2010 5:13:24 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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They should simply announce that they have decided to embrace islam and implement sharia. They'd probably get a government grant.

BJU is in South Carolina.

14 posted on 08/19/2010 5:13:24 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Zakhor 'et 'asher-`asah lekha `Amaleq baderekh betze'tekhem miMitzrayim.)
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A NC state lawmaker should start impeachment proceedings for these three judges. They obviously either a) are completely ignorant of what the First Amendment means or b) have no desire to uphold their oath of office. Either way, they have to go.


15 posted on 08/19/2010 5:14:02 PM PDT by jhigh
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Well we're doing the next best thing.

Our government is shuttling around a Muslim in Europe and WE PAY FOR IT. Yet, a private religious school doesn't have the right to protect itself.

16 posted on 08/19/2010 5:15:37 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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This is a serious and perhaps ignorant question for me to pose, but what prevents ordinary citizens from detaining a suspect, placing charges against the suspect, convening a Grand Jury, arraigning the suspect, gathering evidence, calling witnesses, holding a trial, and imposing a sentence? (Assume all participants slept at a Holiday Inn the pervious night)


17 posted on 08/19/2010 5:21:02 PM PDT by Rodamala
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Huh...? The courts are mad.


18 posted on 08/19/2010 5:23:41 PM PDT by Drango (NO-vember)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz; nmh

First off, this is a state court decision, so it only applies in NC.

Second, NC is one of the few states that still permits private police forces with arrest powers. Religious and other private schools in other states generally cannot have their own police forces as is.

Outside of public universities “campus police” are no more actual police than mall cops are.


19 posted on 08/19/2010 5:26:39 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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A religious college should be granted exactly the same powers with regard to campus law enforcement as a public or private secular school. To do anything else is to discriminate on the basis of religion.


20 posted on 08/19/2010 5:30:16 PM PDT by sphinx
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