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To: cothrige

“He is our President, and his foreign policy must be infallible too. If we get bombed on his watch we can’t say it is his fault because that would mean we “brought it on ourselves.”

You win the Doofus Comment of The Day Award.

Conservative Americans, unlike Socialist/Communist citizens, can distinguish between on administrations foreign policy from another.

In case you missed the news, Muslim have been waging wars on “infidels” for centuries. Using your line of reasoning, I’m sure the “infidels” and their governments are to blame.

You accuse America and her administrations of provoking Muslims, and that this is the reason for 9/11. In case you missed the obvious, any person or country that is not muslim is an enemy. A few muslim’s didn’t wake up one day and say, “Allah Akbar, I am outraged at these American dogs. Let’s bomb them!”

No, this attack was carefully orchestrated over a period of time, and it was not because we provoked Islam. It was because they hate us, and wish to wipe us off the face of the planet as they do all “infidels”.

Just as those two Canadian muslims stated, when ever Islam conquers a town or area, they build a mosque on that sight. If you believe that the NYC mosque is something else, I suggest you study the Quran.


26 posted on 08/20/2010 10:42:20 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Backward ping to #23


27 posted on 08/20/2010 10:44:22 PM PDT by shibumi (Pablo is Miley- wily, clever and detractive as all get out!)
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To: This Just In
Conservative Americans, unlike Socialist/Communist citizens, can distinguish between on administrations foreign policy from another.

What does that have to do with anything? All of our administrations have been America. If Nixon did dumb things which contributed to future terrorist acts, or didn't do smart things which would have averted future terrorist attacks, then America did those things. If Carter did or did not do in the same manner then, again, it was America. Which administration did this or that does not matter. The fact remains that our national policies matter. We cannot go around pretending that America cannot be blamed and then argue at the same time that we are courting future attack. Either we can or we can't. It can't be both.

You accuse America and her administrations of provoking Muslims...

No, I don't think I actually said this, but rather only spoke of funding. But we have probably provoked in a sense too, though I don't know if that is avoidable. Thinking about it from that consideration I would probably say that we have provoked needlessly and that is an issue. I don't mind provoking people who matter for reasons that matter. However, fooling about with a bunch of backwards nutters because they have oil, when we already have plenty of oil ourselves that we refuse to dig up simply because we really like buying theirs, is both needless and counterproductive.

In case you missed the news, Muslim have been waging wars on “infidels” for centuries. Using your line of reasoning, I’m sure the “infidels” and their governments are to blame... A few muslim’s didn’t wake up one day and say, “Allah Akbar, I am outraged at these American dogs. Let’s bomb them!”

You have clearly missed the point. I say that "we brought this on ourselves" insofar as what you are saying here is absolutely true. These nutters have been doing this for centuries, and didn't just wake up and decide to bomb us randomly. Instead of avoiding this and being ready for an attack, which we knew could happen, we convinced ourselves that Islam was all sweet and cuddly. We sucked up to Saudi princes and leaders in Pakistan, and in many other areas too depending on which way the winds are blowing, all of whom have been funding and working with terrorists for ages. We have refused to use our own resources and instead make certain that stupid amounts of money get funnelled over to Arabs every year. We were wilfully ignorant and unprepared and when the inevitable finally happened our response was one of refusing to admit that mistakes were made. Silly to the point of self-destructiveness.

People around here are so sensitive about "blaming America" insisting that past American foreign policy, even that of LBJ, Carter and Clinton, is infallible. They did nothing wrong. And yet I have to read day in and day out that Obama is going to get us all killed. Which is it? Can our national policy, and thereby America, influence possible attacks, or can't it? It can't be both, and knowing which administration is which is hardly relevant.

29 posted on 08/20/2010 11:18:23 PM PDT by cothrige
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I hate to bust your fine rant, but you totally misread cothrige’s post. It’s NOT that we so much provoked the Mooselimbs as that we kept coddling the worst of them, the Saudis, by buying their oil instead of developing our own resources, by treating them as good people when they are NOT and by totally underestimating and misreading the level of hate from the Mohammedans toward us and the west, even though we’ve had much evidence over the years. Do you suppose it was helpful to OUR cause to see pics of W walking hand in hand with a Saudi prince on his ranch? Or refusing to do anything besides bloviate after the Cole attack? No, we overlooked and ignored much and it came back to bite us in the butt big time. What do we do next? I don’t know for sure. It’s apparent that we cannot go on appeasing them. It has never worked and won’t at all. Do we nuke them? What do we do? Keeping in mind there are a billion or so of them.


88 posted on 08/22/2010 2:46:03 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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