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The Ground Zero mosque tests our national character
Townhall ^ | August 23, 2010 | John David Powell

Posted on 08/24/2010 8:01:23 AM PDT by John David Powell

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To: RC2

When will the church that was destroyed in the fall of the towers be allowed to rebuild?


21 posted on 08/24/2010 8:21:46 AM PDT by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second - GO SARAHCUDA!!!!)
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To: John David Powell

For crying out loud, there’s been enough ink expended and enough bullsh*t flung over this thing in the past few weeks to paint the butts of America’s Muslims black and bury them.

The plain and simple fact of the matter is that no generation in America’s history would have stood for such a thing, and nor would they have made any excuses about it.

They’d simply have told the Muslims to pound sand and get over it.

And everyone in the country would have understood it, too. There would have been no - repeat NO - breast beating or soul searching in the papers or anywhere else.

This country’s fallen on hard times with all the nancy boys and panty waists running things.


22 posted on 08/24/2010 8:26:52 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: John David Powell

Look at the videos of 9/11 and you will see our character!


23 posted on 08/24/2010 8:27:03 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: John David Powell

It does not test our national character. It is a symbol of the fight between violent barbarism and our brand of civilization. The outcome is easy to predict. Civilization loses and barbarism wins another battle.


24 posted on 08/24/2010 8:28:23 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: John David Powell

A burning cross is also free speech but is seen as a threat by some when put in thier front yard

Park51/Cordoba House is a 13 story "burning cross" in our front yard

25 posted on 08/24/2010 8:29:13 AM PDT by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: tophat9000

You know, cross-burning is a perfect analogy. Did you think of it?

Also, Islam is a fully developed political system, not just a religion. And it is a system that advocates violent overthrow of any government it replaces.


26 posted on 08/24/2010 8:31:07 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: John David Powell
Our nation has no beef with Islam.

Yes, we do.

islam is a scourge upon this planet, a blight, pestilence, plague. Muslims, all, every last one, are perverted, blood thirsty, lying thieves. Moderate, good muslims? If you think that, they fooled you and are laughing at you until they can kill you.

27 posted on 08/24/2010 8:31:21 AM PDT by existtoexcel
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To: lady lawyer

yes


28 posted on 08/24/2010 8:31:55 AM PDT by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: tophat9000
Park51/Cordoba House is a 13 story "burning cross" in our front yard ...

Outstanding analogy.


29 posted on 08/24/2010 8:37:21 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free ...)
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To: John David Powell

“Who among us, except kooky conspiracy theorists who believe George W. Bush played some weird role, does not believe the 9/11 hijackers acted on a perverse and narrow interpretation of their religion?”

The attackers of 9/11 did not act on a perverse interpretation of their religion. They acted absolutely consistent with the life and teachings of the founder of Islam. It is the hundreds of millions of “moderate” Muslims who are who are non-compliant with true Islam.


30 posted on 08/24/2010 8:47:48 AM PDT by Lucas McCain
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To: John David Powell
Islam is not a religion primarily.

It is a lifestyle with political, legal, military and religious components based around conquering.

Once a territory is conquered it is much easier to control it by use of imposed a religion rather than maintain an army to secure the land.

Can you imagine a minaret barking out orders (prayers) every day and you being forced to pray 5 times a day?

It is the antithesis to our way of life and the Constitution and is not entitled to religious protections.
31 posted on 08/24/2010 9:02:28 AM PDT by voveo
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To: John David Powell

Time for another crusade, starting right here in the United States.........


32 posted on 08/24/2010 9:10:51 AM PDT by sniper63 (I am the leader of the TEA Party, I, myself am the leader of me, myself for I am the TEA Party!)
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To: John David Powell
The actual use of standing laws is a prime tactic of the proponents of Islam. I was aware of this when in England in 1994. An educated man representing a 1000 year old village of some 600 people was debating on the television with an imam. The imam had already stated 10,000 persons visited the proposed site.

The man pleaded that there was ample countryside that could be used for the mosque. It would spell the death of the village. The imam, whose demeanor was cold and icy, used this statement.

"YOU made the laws. We are in accordance with the laws".

As I have repeated about three times of FR, I left the "Railway Arms" in Chelmsford, Essex, sickened at this vile attitude. What people must realize is how the laws can be perverted. Only look closely of the way certain judges have applied it. Criminals go free, because of some piffling technicality. Yet the technicality was on the law books. Criminals to go free and assault the citizen once again.

On the battlefield, soldiers hampered by "laws" while the insurgent laughs in their faces. We might be on self destruct.

33 posted on 08/24/2010 9:13:37 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: John David Powell
Despite politicians mealy-mouthed assertions to the contrary (I'm looking at you, President Bush) American is at war with Islam. It's not our choice but that of the Islamists that seek to propagate their 'religion' across the world. The United States is their biggest challenge but so far, we're proving to be an easy victory. However, as the Japanese mistakenly calculated the 'national character' of America on December 7, 1941, so have the Islamists, today.

True, most Americans have been unaware of the war with Islam because the politicians deny it, the media echo them and, in reality, few Americans know or care that much about Islam, except as it relates to 9/11. However, the 'Ground Zero mosque' controversy has helped open a lot of eyes to what we're facing. The blather of politicians promoting the placement of this triumphal mosque (I'm talking about you, Mayor Bloomberg) is not convincing millions of Americans who simply feel a gut reaction to this mosque proposal, knowing in their hearts and minds what it is and that it isn't right, to be kind about it.

Although we're hardly the nation we were in 1941 when such an insult would have been summarily dismissed at the local level and the proponents castigated for their boldness in even suggesting such an outrage, we're still America and we won't be bullied and manipulated by foreigners bringing their ersatz 'religion' into our country and attempting to subjugate us into obedience to their barbaric, totalitarian system of 'religious law'.

This war will be fought, not likely by many politicians, cowed by PC B.S. but by the American people, who have never known subjugation and will not allow their sacred Constitution to be used to enslave them as it's manipulated by feckless, cowardly politicians and brain-dead leftists, mistakenly thinking that a subjugated America will be a worthy achievement. They ignore the brutal, rigid tenets of Mohammedan 'law' that doesn't tolerate dissent and puts bearded 'leaders' in charge of the country, as in Iran.

It is my contention that the 'Ground Zero' mosque will never be built.

34 posted on 08/24/2010 9:21:00 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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"The attackers of 9/11 did not act on a perverse interpretation of their religion. They acted absolutely consistent with the life and teachings of the founder of Islam. It is the hundreds of millions of “moderate” Muslims who are who are non-compliant with true Islam."

Ding! Winner, winner, chicken dinner. We continue to fail to grasp that Islam is at war with the US... to our peril.

35 posted on 08/24/2010 9:23:47 AM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: tophat9000

wow. I wish your post and pic were in headline news. Really, really excellent.


36 posted on 08/24/2010 9:28:58 AM PDT by Boxsford ("Arrogance exalts human superiority while true strength exalts the superiority of God. ")
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To: tophat9000

I’m posting it on my facebook page.


37 posted on 08/24/2010 9:30:05 AM PDT by Boxsford ("Arrogance exalts human superiority while true strength exalts the superiority of God. ")
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To: DallasDeb

I disagree with his statement that they were not anti-capitalist, They didn’t need to shout “Death to the dollar!” — it was clearly their intention to do severe economic harm b attacking a financial center.

They 9-11 attack was multi-pronged — it was jihad, it was also aimed at a financial center, it was also aimed at the Pentagonand the White House. It was all of the above.


38 posted on 08/24/2010 9:35:19 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Boxsford

Anyone want to repost or used... go for it ...we’ all in the same boat


39 posted on 08/24/2010 10:08:49 AM PDT by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: John David Powell

There is so much wrong with that article I don’t know where to begin. The entirety of the article is indicative of how uninformed the people of America have become. I’ll address just a couple of the points he contends.

“Who among us,…… does not believe the 9/11 hijackers acted on a perverse and narrow interpretation of their religion?

Narrow interpretation? One only needs to search through the book they use as the statement of their beliefs. The fundamentals, mind you, of what they believe as core of their entire belief system.

Here are just a few quotes from the Koran. This is the base of their “religion”. The directives they are given from their “Holy Book”. All Muslims use this as the BASE of what they are to believe and DO. EVERY Muslim must abide by these directives. Can you find anything moderate??

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16

Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17

Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory. 9:12-14

The “Religion of Truth” (Islam) must prevail, by force if necessary, over all other religions. 9:33
Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73

Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123

If you refuse to fight for Allah, he will punish you with a painful doom. 48:16

“Our nation has no beef with Islam.”

Has no beef? If we don’t, as a nation, we certainly should have. Look at the Nations that are predominantly Muslim. See any freedom of religion? How about equal rights, or justice for all. Or check out the freedom of speech, the right to bare arms, or individual right to pursuit of happiness. Dayum right I have a beef with Islam.


40 posted on 08/24/2010 10:11:19 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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