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FR Zots Gay Rights RINO Trolls - David Frum Deeply Saddened
Frum Forum ^ | 8/24/10 | RD

Posted on 08/24/2010 10:06:19 AM PDT by TrueRightWing

When Bill Clinton moved to open the military to gays in 1993, the GOP and conservative Democrats led the effort to oppose gay rights. In 1996, Hawaii flirted with gay marriage and the GOP again led the charge against gay equality, culminating in the federal response known as the "Defense of Marriage Act".

Flash forward fourteen years to the present. Gay marriage is ruled a federal right for the first time and the response from the GOP is… tepid. Not one nationally prominent elected official thought the issue was important enough to get worked up over....

Complicating matters for social conservatives, polls show even a majority of Republican voters support abolishing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"....

The list of conservatives supporting gay equality is growing--from the many Republican appointed judges who have ruled in favor of various gay rights cases, to GOP Solicitor General Ted Olson, Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and even the ultraconservative former Vice President Dick Cheney. Nowadays Margaret Hoover of Fox News sits on the board of GOProud alongside conservative Grover Norquist; and even Elisabeth Hasselbeck has come out in support of gay marriage rights...

What is happening to the GOP? First our elected officials tire of bashing gays and now our pundits? Perhaps Republicans are beginning to see the writing on the wall. Public opinion is changing rapidly in favor of gay marriage rights....

The religious right may be having a conniption, but younger Republicans increasingly appear to believe that opposing gay equality is inconsistent with a belief in increased liberty and smaller government. Although the religious right will continue to be a strong presence in the GOP for years to come, changing demographics are not on the side of anti-gay forces and the GOP appears to be awakening to this reality.

(Excerpt) Read more at frumforum.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: frumwarning; gop; homosexualagenda; liberal; republicans; strategy; victorkilo; zot; zuluoscartango
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To: little jeremiah

They were just yelling things like “ARE YOU A TRUE CONSERVATIVE?”

But the coincidensce in names struck me.


101 posted on 08/24/2010 2:01:01 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: TrueRightWing
Sounds like a re-tread troll to me, so you get the re-zot graphic. All new, sugar free.

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102 posted on 08/24/2010 2:25:15 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Darkwolf377

That is an unfortunate, inevitable truth. Most kids are trained in public schools, and have been indoctrinated to believe homosexual relationships are natural and wholesome.

This doesn’t seem to extend to homosexual SEX, mind you, which the high-schoolers I listen to still seem repulsed by. But they simply have divorced the sex acts from the idea of “love”. Easy to sell that to kids.

It’s been a good fight, but I don’t see how we will win it in 20 years. A generation is rising that doesn’t understand marriage, or morality, in the way we do.


103 posted on 08/24/2010 2:37:44 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Darksheare
Don't get me wrong, I will fight till my last breath against the gay agenda because I believe that it is not only harmful to them but to society at large as well.

But, I am starting to see the writing on the wall, and our leaders are about to abandon us on this issue, mark my words.

104 posted on 08/24/2010 2:45:11 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009; CharlesWayneCT

IF they abandon us - and in the process, the very truths upon which our country was founded - then new leaders will arise.

The war will not be lost, although battles will.

The more defeatism and hopelessness conservatives feel and promote, the worse it will be.

Read my tagline!

And this:

“To grant that there is a supreme intelligence who rules the
world and has established laws to regulate the actions of his
creatures; and still to assert that man, in a state of nature,
may be considered as perfectly free from all restraints of law
and government, appears to a common understanding altogether
irreconcilable. Good and wise men, in all ages, have embraced
a very dissimilar theory. They have supposed that the deity,
from the relations we stand in to himself and to each other, has
constituted an eternal and immutable law, which is indispensably
obligatory upon all mankind, prior to any human institution
whatever. This is what is called the law of nature....Upon this
law depend the natural rights of mankind.”

— Alexander Hamilton

“The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for, among
old parchments, or musty records. They are written, as with a
sun beam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the
divinity itself; and can never be erased or obscured by mortal
power.” —Alexander Hamilton


105 posted on 08/24/2010 2:58:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (.Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: TrueRightWing
...GOP again led the charge against gay equality,

Go drag your pud in the dirt and leave the normal people alone!

106 posted on 08/24/2010 3:06:42 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: little jeremiah
Would you like to be on the Viking Kitties ping list?

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . . don't be shy.

107 posted on 08/24/2010 3:50:22 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: TrueRightWing
I mock them until they realize that they're in over their heads and quit.

"This account has been banned or suspended."

Portrat of the Poster as a Young Troll, in over his Head.

108 posted on 08/24/2010 3:52:22 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: roses of sharon
How will Frum feel when his son is in a hospital at age 35 or 40, unable to hold his own feces in anymore?

Well, he'd be a natural as a political columnist... ;)

109 posted on 08/24/2010 3:54:08 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: 50mm
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110 posted on 08/24/2010 3:57:14 PM PDT by mojitojoe ("The Arabic call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset." punk in chief)
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To: darkwing104

Aren’t I already? If I’m not, add me!


111 posted on 08/24/2010 3:59:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (.Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: little jeremiah
You are on it.


112 posted on 08/24/2010 4:02:31 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: TrueRightWing

113 posted on 08/24/2010 4:11:48 PM PDT by vigilante2 (Reelect Nobody)
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To: jagusafr

“The DoD survey on effects of repeal of DADT is telling: it basically assumes repeal and asks us to specifically identify each and every way the repeal would be a bad thing for readiness, families, workplace, etc. Nowhere (except at the “anything else” block at the end) are we asked whether we believe homosexual “rights” are valid. Makes me wanna puke.”

Yep....I was tagged to complete one and was appaled at the way the questions were worded. They don’t want to hear what we really think. Although, out of respect for the brass, this was as probably good as they could get approval from the POTUS.

Also, my wife received the spouse survey and it is poorly written as well. About the only thing one can say on these surveys is that they would not recommend the military to anyone if DADT was repealed.


114 posted on 08/24/2010 5:35:25 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: RinaseaofDs
What’s conservative anymore. Ann Coulter is hanging with the poofters. She’s a conservative

No she's not. She used to be but she was destroyed her conservative credentials by turning her back on what is good and right and true and embracing perversion.

She may be ok with sacrificing our children to the faggots but I certainly am not.

115 posted on 08/24/2010 6:04:52 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

She’s happy to be the pet of GOProud, a militant homosexual agenda pushing organization.


116 posted on 08/24/2010 6:13:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (.Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: little jeremiah
She’s happy to be the pet of GOProud, a militant homosexual agenda pushing organization.

We use to call women like her "fag hags". Truly a shame

117 posted on 08/24/2010 6:20:44 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: TrueRightWing
>> IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID --
Sideshow?  Idiological subversion is a "sideshow"?
"What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization"...."
---KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
 
How demoralized and systemically corrupt does the economic infrastructure have to get before Useful Idiots get a clue that Fiscally "Conservative" Log-Cabin RINOS, weren't?
Rom 1:25-29
25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator — who is forever praised. Amen.
 
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
 
28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity.
NIV
 
Ezek 20:25-26
25 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by;
26 I let them become defiled through their gifts — the sacrifice of every firstborn — that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the Lord.'
NIV
Hope you idiots enjoys living under Sharia Law.

 

118 posted on 08/24/2010 6:54:48 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Darkwolf377
[I think many folks here would be surprised at how to most young people gay marriage is no big deal,]
 
No not really.  Lying, cheating, drug abuse, and general immoral behavior are more widespread today than in the 70's - the last time the Marxists FAILED to pull off their little revolution.
 

And regarding the economy - evidently many young people didn't think it any big deal to lie about their income on Liar Loan mortgage applications....
 
How's that working out again?
 
It's only wrong if you get caught, right?
 
 

119 posted on 08/24/2010 7:14:29 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: TrueRightWing
GOP Fiscal Conservatives? Bullshyte.





Best Rats and RINOs money could buy.
120 posted on 08/24/2010 7:16:56 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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