Posted on 08/24/2010 6:37:15 PM PDT by RobinMasters
The State Department is maintaining a "counter-misinformation" page on an America.gov blog that attempts to "debunk a conspiracy theory" that President Obama was not born in the United States, as if the topic were equivalent to believing space aliens visit Earth in flying saucers.
However, in the attempt to debunk the Obama birth-certificate controversy, the State Department author confirmed Obama was a dual citizen of the U.K. and the U.S. from 1961 to 1963 and a dual citizen of Kenya and the U.S. from 1963 to 1982, because his father was a Kenyan citizen when Obama was born in 1961.
In a number of court cases challenging Obama's eligibility, dual citizenship has been raised as a factor that could compromise his "natural born" status under Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution. The cases argue dual citizenship would make Obama ineligible even if documentary evidence were shown the public, such as the hospital-issued long-form birth certificate that indicates the place of his birth and the name of the attending physician.
The entry "The Obama Birth Controversy" was written by Todd Leventhal, identified as the chief of the Counter-Misinformation Team for the U.S. Department of State. The office appears to have been established "to provide information about false and misleading stories in the Middle East," as described in a biography of Leventhal published on the U.S. Public Diplomacy website.
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Good pun aside, Hamilton is credited as being the inspiration for the grandfather clause of being a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution.
In this instance, there is 'no doubt.' "
As always he's wrong.
Hmmm...no state agrees with you - neither legislature nor DA. No Congressman agrees with you. The only birther case to go to a ruling on the merits determined "Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Just as a person “born within the British dominions [was] a natural-born British subject” at the time of the framing of the U.S. Constitution, so too were those “born in the allegiance of the United States [] natural-born citizens.”
Let me know when a birther figures out what the courts mean by 'standing', and takes action to gain standing so they can get a ruling from some court other than Indiana's. Until then, you are making claims that no legal authority supports - no state and no federal authority.
Just Internet hot air.
ONLY if those alien parents were already naturalized citizens.
1) Wong Kim Ark not only petitioned the court as a native-born citizen, he never claimed any citizenship other than American.
2) His petition was NOT based on his parentage by some fly-by-night African radical here on a student visa.
Obama MAY be native born, but he is NOT natural-born, and should he have claimed foreign citizenship in order to receive student funding, he isn't even that.
He's just an illegal like all the others invading our country.
“Failing to renew a passport does not, in most cases, cause you to lose a citizenship. It definitely does not occur with a US citizenship. It may or may not occur with other countries.”
I was born in another country to American parents. I never explored the issue deeply since I had no interest in becoming a citizen of that country. But my understanding was that failure to affirmatively declare my citizenship for that other country at age 18 (or maybe it was 21) permanently precluded the possibility of changing my mind later on. That is, it was a one-time, time-limited “opportunity.” I just assumed it was the same for any country, but perhaps this was a country-specific rule.
In reading about Obama, my impression was that similarly, unless he formally declared being a Kenyan citizen, his previous dual citizenship automatically disappeared without his having to take any action for this to happen. I wasn’t aware that one could maintain their dual citizenship merely by keeping passports for 2 countries.
But regardless of whether he kept his dual citizenship alive or let it automatically lapse, the fact that he was BORN a dual citizen means he was not (and can never be) a natural born citizen since he had theoretically divided loyalties at birth. Indeed, when one reads his book and his decision after 18 to “identify” as black, one could argue that even if he failed to opt for Kenyan citizenship as an adult, Obama ultimately identified much more with his father and his heritage than his American-born mother’s. All the living relatives we hear about are Kenyan. I’ve never heard of his keeping up with aunts, uncles or cousins on his mother’s side of the family.
“I just had a weird shock - reading in the paper that someone I once went out with and whose wedding I attended is now a major Hildebeast supporter.”
Given that about one quarter of the population still strongly approves of Obama’s performance, my guess is that there’s quite a few Americans who personally know someone who shockingly and unaccountably still supports this man despite all the rather obvious evidence of the harm he’s done to the country and its economy.
In other words, if you're a natural born citizen, dual citizenship doesn't change that. All that matters are U.S. citizenship laws.
“The US doesn’t recognize dual citizenship.”
Yes it does. I am dual.
Yeh and one knocked off the other in a duel and neither of them ever served as President, did they???
P.S.
George Soros has five (5) passports to include a U.S. passport.
He claims citizenship to 5 countries.
And did you notice they’re treating a year-old blog post as “breaking news”?
“ONLY if those alien parents were already naturalized citizens.”
No. The only exceptions were for the children of ambassadors, and those born to an invading army.
And Obama’s father was here legally for years studying at good schools. Nor is Obama in any sense an illegal alien who has invaded our country.
State Dept. confirms Obama dual citizen
Yep. She’s at State getting her ‘foreign policy’ ticket punched so she can run and claim she has ‘experience’.
But if he'd been studying at some podunk community college it would have been a different story? :)
"Here legally for years" doesn't mean he became a citizen, ever. There is no documentation that BO Sr. ever became an American citizen. A citizen of Australia (for example) who works here but has to go back home every six months to renew his visa is here legally also, but he still isn't an American citizen.
Nope. not the same thing.
There is enough in the public record alone to prove him a fraud were the evidence to be presented to a jury.
Let me know where standing is in the Constitution and who invented it and should not standing for Presidential eligibility challenges be ruled non-applicable and grandfathered out. Standing for eligibility is ex post facto....how do you like that theory?
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From the Library of Congress;
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=071/llcg071.db&recNum=332
[I] find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.
— John A. Bingham, (R-Ohio) US Congressman, March 9, 1866 Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866), Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes (1866)
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