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1 posted on 08/25/2010 7:15:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, Robins have red breasts, hop around on the lawn and eat worms .... I know they ain’t doves. Even if you taught them to coo ... they wouldn’t be doves.


2 posted on 08/25/2010 7:18:06 PM PDT by jessduntno (The Grand Old Potty needs to be flushed ... vote for Conservatives in November.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Is Barack Hussein Obama a Muslim?”

Say for the sake of argument he is...So What.


3 posted on 08/25/2010 7:19:31 PM PDT by Valin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Ben Shapiro: Is Barack Obama a Muslim?"

What is this crap? He cites multiple reasons why one might think obama is a muslim and then simply says he's not. Based on what, exactly?

4 posted on 08/25/2010 7:19:47 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and now for the start of muslim holy month he goes on vacation AGAIN .

Nice timing, you watch for 2012 he will got to a church and say a passage from the bible and we will still have dopes saying that he is Christian and they will vote for him and that does go for the evangelicals too.


5 posted on 08/25/2010 7:20:35 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He is a muslim but not a practicing one, at least in public. His father was a muslim, his step father was a muslim, and he was raised up to the age of 10 or 12 in Indonesia a muslim country and attended there a school that tought islam in its curriculum.
7 posted on 08/25/2010 7:25:04 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Taking off shoes for prayer.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2577432/posts
#35


12 posted on 08/25/2010 7:36:45 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No? He’s not a Muslim? Why not?

Evidence, please.

Oh, there isn’t any.


18 posted on 08/25/2010 8:06:53 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s no doubt that Obama, who (by Islamic law) was born a Muslim, is STILL a Muslim.
Just a bit of the evidence is listed below:

Quotes from Obama’s various speeches:

“Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit”
Barack Hussein Obama

“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country”
Barack Hussein Obama

“I have lived in a Muslim-majority country... I know, because I am one of them.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one’s religion. That is why there is a mosque in every state of our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That is why the U.S. government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, and to punish those who would deny it.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“We are not nor have we even been at war with Islam”
Barack Hussein Obama

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This is what the Marxist/Muslim has done with American tax dollars while Americans lose their jobs and homes. BILLIONS FOR JIHAD!

Obama’s 2009 Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Pandemic Flu was revised and “passed by the full committee.” Not sure what the next step is, but based on the summary, it gives billions http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/obamas-supplemental-bill-passes-gives-billions-to-enemies/
of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support Sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies.

Read the summary from David Obey’s office that was quietly released last week with nary a word from any media.

• $3.6 billion, matching the request, to expand and improve capabilities of the Afghan security forces

• $400 million, as requested, to build the counterinsurgency capabilities of the Pakistani security forces

• Afghanistan: $1.52 billion, $86 million above the request

• West Bank and Gaza: $665 million in bilateral economic, humanitarian, and security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza

• Jordan: $250 million, $250 million above the request, including $100 million for economic and $150 million for security assistance

• Egypt: $360 million, $310 million above the request, including $50 million for economic assistance, $50 million for border security, and $260 million for security assistance

• Pakistan: $1.9 billion, $591 million above the request

• Iraq: $968 million, $336 million above the request

• Oversight: $20 million, $13 million above the request, to expand oversight capacity of the State Department, USAID, and the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan to review programs in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq

• Lebanon: $74 million

• International Food Assistance: $500 million, $200 million above the request, for PL 480 international food assistance to alleviate suffering during the global economic crisis

• Refugee Assistance: $343 million, $50 million above the request, …including humanitarian assistance for Gaza. Funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency programs in the West Bank and Gaza is limited to $119 million (Note: Gaza = Hamas)

• Disaster Assistance: $200 million to avert famines and provide life-saving assistance during natural disasters and for internally displaced people around the world, including Somalia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the Middle East and South Asia

• Peacekeeping: $837 million for United Nations peacekeeping operations, including an expanded mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a new mission in Chad and the Central African Republic

• Department of Justice: $17 million, matching the request, for counter-terrorism activities and to provide training and assistance for the Iraqi criminal justice system
The mainstream media remains silent on this but the International News has now picked up the story http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=22164
— and then there is Obama’s $108 billion IMF bailout scheme http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/13/obamas-100-billion-imf-bailout-scheme/
in addition to the Supplemental.

in addition to the Supplemental.

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From Obama’s books:

From Dreams From My Father: “THE PERSON WHO MADE ME PROUDEST OF ALL, THOUGH, WAS MY [half brother], ROY..HE CONVERTED TO ISLAM”.

From ‘Dreams From my Father’, “IN INDONESIA, I SPEND TWO YEARS AT A MUSLIM SCHOOL” “..I STUDIED THE KORAN..”

‘Audacity of Hope: “LOLO (Obama’s step father) FOLLOWED ISLAM....”I LOOKED TO LOLO FOR GUIDANCE”.

From ‘The Audacity Of Hope, “I WILL STAND WITH THEM (MUSLIMS) SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS OF WAR SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION..”

http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080101164820/http://www.examiner.co m/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html?cid=dc-article-obama

http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080101164820/http://www.examiner.com/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html?cid=dc-article-obama
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OBAMA MOCKS THE BIBLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FCNK...w.phforamerica

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0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?
Why has he paid out millions to lawyers to keep all this hidden???

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups

5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0’s SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Obama 1964 Divorce Papers - 13 Pages - Missing Pg 11
24 Why isn’t Barack Obama still a member of the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why isn’t Michelle Obama still a member of the Illinois bar, after only about four years of practice, and where are all of the relevant documents?
Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

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Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth,” in an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times. Kristof described Obama’s recitation of the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.”

The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:

“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... “

According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.

(All links to this have been scrubbed- as have most of the dirt on Obama on the net)

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Obama admits he’s a Muslim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

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Obama appoints Muslims to key security posts:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134466

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Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit said he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama, where Obama told him that He was still a Muslim, and that he was sympathetic towards the Muslim agenda. http://beforeitsnews.com/story/76/647/Egyptian_minister:_Obama_told_me_he_is_a_Muslim.html

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Little known facts about Obama, the muzzie:

In 2001, Obama sponsored Illinois Senate Bill 750 creating the “Halal Food Act,” providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/summary/920SB0750.html

This act plays into Islamization. Here’s how it works and how Halal food plays a role:

“From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply
(United States)

He’s a Muzzie.

Go to The Obama File http://www.theobamafile.com/index.htm
by Beckwith.

Read the ‘Religion’ section:
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaReligion.htm

and ‘Islam’:
http://www.theobamafile.com/_Islam/ObamaIslamIndex.htm

The United States Library of Congress has selected
TheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collection
of Internet materials.
http://www.theobamafile.com/LibraryOfCongress.html


19 posted on 08/25/2010 8:27:43 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For all of you who think that obama is a “non-practicing” muslim:

Remember the 9/11 hijackers, and how they behaved before they did their evil deed of jihad. They boozed it up and chased women at clubs. Maybe they ate pork too—I dunno. They certainly skipped the five islamic prayers a day. At any rate, they did a lot of things that devout muslims would never do.

Why? They were practicing taqiyya. Their behavior was designed to fool everyone, to provide cover while they were setting up for their extreme islamic act of self-immolating “martyrdom”.

Barack Hussein obama is also a full muslim, who is practicing taqiyya. This allows him to do everything to sell our our country to islam, as the article says.

But his disguise is getting thinner and thinner. Someday soon, he will either be exposed as a muslim, or he will declare it openly, with a phalanx of liberal protestants and Jews and turncoat Roman Catholics to provide him cover!


20 posted on 08/25/2010 8:29:05 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
I do not think Obama can be defined or placed into a box conventionally as either being a Muslim or Christian as it pertains to religion.

Looking at the big picture and considering all the supposed religious ideological conflicts and the confusion created comparing what he says with what he does one may conclude he is himself confused and without direction. I suggest that what makes sense considering all -the simple answer is what reality actually is.

I conclude that Obama is neither Muslim nor Christian in the convential sense but rather a synthesis of portions of both premised in perversions of each focused upon what furthers his cause which is simply put socialism -Islamic Liberation Theology is his religion...

Remarks by the President at Easter Prayer Breakfast

For even after the passage of 2,000 years, we can still picture the moment in our mind’s eye. The young man from Nazareth marched through Jerusalem; object of scorn and derision and abuse and torture by an empire.

This quote is troubling -was Jesus an object of scorn and derision and abuse and torture by an empire? If so, which 'empire'? Some may assume the 'empire' Obama refers to was Roman not Jewish or for that matter not both Roman and Jewish... What if it was the "Western Empire" e.g. that reprsented by the west -the primary member being yours truly, the United States of America?

Islamic Liberation Theology - Resisting the Empire by: Hamid Dabashi (PDF ebook)

-excerpt from conclusion of book:

Resisting the US-inspired globalized empire (which should never be equated with Americans at large, the overwhelming majority of which have a healthy dose of either active resistance to or else nagging suspicion about its efficacy) can no longer be in terms of a singular ideology embedded in a medieval theology, or an ideologically updated version of it to resist a center-based ‘‘Western’’ empire, or else contingent on spectacular acts of senseless and iconic violence. Resisting that empire requires regional alliances based on crosscurrents of ideas, sentiments, ideologies, and cultures. The worst aspect of Islamic ideology was its persistent reliance on Islamic Law (Shari’ah), the consequences of which for a free and democratic society is simply catastrophic, for it mutates the free and autonomous citizens of a potential republic into the legal subjects of a medieval jurisprudence that no matter how liberally it is interpreted it remains deadly contrary to creation of free and autonomous citizens of a republic. The only way that an (Islamic) liberation theology can be part of a global resistance to the US (or any other) empire is to be party to an equally liberating and global conversation, safeguard its theological monotheism by embracing it within a multifaceted theodicy that instead of trying to account for the existence of evil in the world in fact embraces its own alternatives and oppositions.

24 posted on 08/25/2010 8:52:57 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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I remember seeing a video for rent with Obama's face on the front at the local video rental store with the caption, "Who is this guy?"

Honest people have to admit they they still don't know. That in itself is scary.

29 posted on 08/25/2010 9:55:33 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s POTUS and that’s what bothers me!


35 posted on 08/26/2010 4:12:01 AM PDT by Iowamerican
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Quix

Obama is a socialist opportunist.

He worships no god except himself and marxism’s law of conflicting economic forces.

sort of a “god of forces.”


37 posted on 08/26/2010 4:58:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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Well, there are two possibilities: either Obama is a Muslim, or he is a murtad fitri. Since there have been no fatwas condemning America for chosing a murtad fitri to be President, no fatwas demanding Obama's immediate return to Islam, and no fatwas calling on Muslims to execute him, it would appear that the perception that Obama is a Muslim is much more widespread among Islamic clerics than among the American populace.

As outreach to the Muslim world seems popular with the left these days, perhaps the American media should be engaged in outreach to the Muslim world to correct the perception that Obama is a Muslim.

49 posted on 08/26/2010 8:13:44 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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If it walks like a Duck and quacks like a Duck it for sure isn’t a Horse


50 posted on 08/26/2010 8:38:44 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Secrets often come out and the holder of such secrets cannot stop the tide.

The truth about NObama & where he was born & his Foreign Aid status as a student will surface.

Then many people are going to very disappointed about their support for the imposter.


52 posted on 08/26/2010 11:36:59 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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I will stand with them [Muslims] should the political winds shift in an ugly direction - Taqiyya-Talkin' Collectivist Barack Anti-Individual Insane POS Obama

What freedom-loving, truth-telling, American-principle-honoring, non-collectivist, non-muslim-individual...OR...MAN....would EVER say that?

Wake up Ben.

53 posted on 08/26/2010 11:56:08 AM PDT by PGalt
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