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What to Expect When Expecting Heaven (2005-Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf)
nytimes ^ | 12/20/2005 | VIRGINIA HEFFERNAN

Posted on 08/26/2010 8:08:19 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3

There's no contest. Of all the major religions, the Muslims have the most graphic view of heaven. It's refreshing, in fact. They don't mess around invoking vague spaces of peace and light; they come through with Relais et Châteaux specifics. One imam tells Barbara Walters on her ABC special tonight: "We will be in comfortable homes, reclining on silk couches. We will have people coming - servants, lovely servants, young youths to regale you, Barbara. Residing in gardens beyond which rivers flow."

Yes - to cut to the chase - there will be virgins, too. Even for women. (Barbara's "youths.") And why not? So says Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, who quarrels only with the widespread misconception that Islamic martyrs get 72 virgins. Seventy-two, he says, is just an Arabic expression for "countless."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barbarawalters; groundzero; groundzeromosque; imam; mosque; muslim; rauf
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1 posted on 08/26/2010 8:08:23 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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This moronic vision of heaven would be laughable, except for the notion that millions of idiots are willing to murder for it.


2 posted on 08/26/2010 8:10:27 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, who quarrels only with the widespread misconception that Islamic martyrs get 72 virgins. Seventy-two, he says, is just an Arabic expression for “countless.”


3 posted on 08/26/2010 8:11:16 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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Cut to the chase??? It's will be really really hot alrighty, but not what they expected. From all accounts of what I have read, it's pretty close to a brothel.

Not what Yahweh has in mind... where RIGHTEOUSNESS reigns.

4 posted on 08/26/2010 8:12:28 PM PDT by BigFinn (877 days to go.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I’m glad he cleared that up


5 posted on 08/26/2010 8:13:17 PM PDT by scottinoc
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To: TornadoAlley3

and they have slaves there too!


6 posted on 08/26/2010 8:13:22 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: TornadoAlley3

So what happens to ‘em when they’re no longer virgins?


7 posted on 08/26/2010 8:14:55 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

In sum: Do what the Imam tells you, and in the next life you will be invited to a giant orgy.

No wonder Churchill said of Islam: “A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.”


8 posted on 08/26/2010 8:16:56 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: TornadoAlley3
"We will be in comfortable homes, reclining on silk couches. We will have people coming - servants, lovely servants, young youths to regale you, Barbara. Residing in gardens beyond which rivers flow."

You could be Hugh Hefner and have all that in the here and now.

9 posted on 08/26/2010 8:17:20 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Perhaps he will have that at his Ground Zero mosque.
10 posted on 08/26/2010 8:19:08 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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Islam’s view of heaven is essentially hedonistic. Do you notice how these jihadists are rushing to heaven for their harem, not Allah?

I know many Muslims have feared, respected, and worshiped Allah. I wonder how many have ever loved him.


11 posted on 08/26/2010 8:19:22 PM PDT by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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I think they are “eternally” virgins, which would mean you have to do all the hard work again the next night.

Truth to tell, I have never understood the attraction of boinking virgins. Granted, my experience is limited in that regard, but I do recall it was not the most enjoyable experience (for either of us) and was both messy and noisy besides.

If I had to put up with that every night, I think I would give up and stick with beer.


12 posted on 08/26/2010 8:19:40 PM PDT by Ronin (If it werenÂ’t so gruesomely malevolent, Islam would just be silly.)
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To: Irish Rose

Muslims are certainly in for a surprise when they go before the White Throne of Judgement.


13 posted on 08/26/2010 8:21:05 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“You could be Hugh Hefner and have all that in the here and now. “

Is this heaven? Asks Shoeless Joe.

No, it’s the playboy mansion.


14 posted on 08/26/2010 8:21:22 PM PDT by jpf (ME in 2012.)
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To: Ronin

LOL! Maybe its really Hell they’re describing! Wouldn’t surprise me—that’s a condition of belief—lying.


15 posted on 08/26/2010 8:29:29 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: TornadoAlley3
This is the dream of a nomadic desert Arab. It is about 72 dried up raisins turning into luscious grapes.
16 posted on 08/26/2010 8:30:23 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

And just exactly what does a spirit do with virgins or silk sofas, anyway?


17 posted on 08/26/2010 8:36:27 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TornadoAlley3
When advertising, the competition always tries to make their "product" sound more appealing...to get customers, you know.

I could watch a Disney movie and not get as big of a FAIRY TALE than this guy is pushing.

I've heard it all now..."alternative heaven that rivals Club Med". These 10th century iMaMa's might believe and preach this stuff, but it's just trash, all trash.
18 posted on 08/26/2010 8:36:53 PM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: Irish Rose

GREAT points!


19 posted on 08/26/2010 8:38:03 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Ronin

I think it’s mostly a conquest / power / possession thing in the Muslim context. But then, isn’t everything? Mohammed was a failure in the Arab world until they kicked him out of Mecca and he went to Medina, where it occurred to him that he could sell his message if he threw in allowing people to become desert pirates, so long as it was in the interest of advancing Islam. It’s basically like having the Catholic Church run by the Mafia.


20 posted on 08/26/2010 8:40:32 PM PDT by Humble Servant
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