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Jerry Brown says he'd be a frugal governor (Would Cut Public Employees' Pensions If Elected)
SF Gate ^ | 9/04/10 | Carla Marinucci

Posted on 09/04/2010 6:13:49 PM PDT by Libloather

Jerry Brown says he'd be a frugal governor
Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer
September 3, 2010 07:33 PM

(09-03) 19:33 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- Jerry Brown said Friday that if elected governor he would have to "do things that labor doesn't like," including cutting pension benefits for public employees and asking labor leaders to "put everything on the table" to get California's bloated budget under control.

"If you're looking for frugality, I'm your man," the California attorney general and former two-term governor said in a meeting with The Chronicle's editorial board. When he was governor from 1975 to 1983, he said, "I vetoed the pay raises for the state employees not once, but twice. I was overridden by 23 Republican votes.

"I called for the two-tier pension system in 1982," added Brown, 72. "Of course, the next four governors didn't do anything. I'm willing to get in the battle."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: brown; ca2010; california; jerry; moonbeam
Frugal or fragile? All of the 'new idea' RATS are lookin' kinda old.


1 posted on 09/04/2010 6:13:52 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33
Would Cut Public Employees' Pensions If Elected

This thread may need the BS meter.

2 posted on 09/04/2010 6:15:43 PM PDT by Libloather (Teapublican, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Libloather

If California is stupid enough to elect Jerry Brown AGAIN, there is absolutely no hope for the place.


3 posted on 09/04/2010 6:16:48 PM PDT by Ronin (If it were not so gruesomely malevolent, Islam would just be silly.)
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To: Libloather

He is 72 years old, to old to change his stripes!


4 posted on 09/04/2010 6:17:10 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: Libloather

Frugal? A radical DemoRat in Taxifornia with a rap sheet so long you can’t find the end of it....frugal? Yeah, Gray Davis was frugal too, just like Professor Moonbeam’s father, Patrick. All good tax and spend Rats. Look at the trail of disaster they left us with. Not one of them ever fought for a balanced budget....the last one of those occurred during Governor Deukmejian’s (true conservative Republican) reign in the early seventies. I remember it well. They fought over how to return taxation surpluses to the taxpayers of California. Can you imagine???


5 posted on 09/04/2010 6:19:24 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Libloather

He really does look older than 72.

For a moonbeam he sure was left out in the sun.


6 posted on 09/04/2010 6:19:42 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter -God's redemption)
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To: Libloather; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33
"If you're looking for frugality, I'm your man,"

I actually believe this. He showed great efficiency in using Linda ronstadt for his "beard," while she did ythe same with him. Instead of a foursome with two "beards," thgey accomplished the illusion with each other. That, in Democrat-Thought, is a saving of 50%.

7 posted on 09/04/2010 6:19:42 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Revive The Poll Tax and Literacy Requirement for voter registration.)
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To: Libloather

He’s the idiot who allowed state employees to unionize.

It was illegal before him.

He’s directly responsible for the economic disaster that faces California today.


8 posted on 09/04/2010 6:29:51 PM PDT by DB
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To: Libloather

Frugal? If I recall correctly, unionization of State of California employees occurred during his last administration. That is one of the many reasons CA has such an out of whack budget and overpaid state workers.


9 posted on 09/04/2010 6:31:13 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Libloather
Yeah, and the Canadian Gray Wolf just told Idaho's elk herds not to worry..he's a vegetarian.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

10 posted on 09/04/2010 6:32:18 PM PDT by wku man (Steel yourselves, patriots, and be ready. Won't be long now....)
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To: Libloather

Well of course he’ll cut public pensions. He’ll have no choice. California is already bankrupt. There is no more blood to be squeezed from the stone.

Doing the right thing when you’re backed into a corner and trapped like a rat isn’t a mark of good character.


11 posted on 09/04/2010 6:32:44 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics, and victors study demographics.)
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To: EagleUSA

Off a little bit.

1983–1991...

Even though those days seem like another lifetime ago...


12 posted on 09/04/2010 6:34:26 PM PDT by DB
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To: Libloather

“If you’re looking for frugality, I’m your man,”

After squandering the Reagan surplus, Moonbeam has a lot of nerve.


13 posted on 09/04/2010 6:36:05 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Libloather

I’d like to announce I’m Henry the 8th. I am.


14 posted on 09/04/2010 6:45:10 PM PDT by Drango (NO-vember is payback for April 15th)
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To: Ronin

He is the POS that started the long downhill slide for CA.


15 posted on 09/04/2010 6:45:37 PM PDT by ully2 (ully)
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To: Ronin

It is unfortunate that Proposition 140 doesn’t apply to those who served as Governor before the law passed.


16 posted on 09/04/2010 6:51:35 PM PDT by eaglescout1998
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To: eaglescout1998

Fine for him to want to cut pensions since he’s already double dipping.


17 posted on 09/04/2010 7:34:51 PM PDT by JMS
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To: Libloather
Isn't that Dr. Evil?
18 posted on 09/04/2010 7:35:53 PM PDT by JPG (How much taxpayer $ did Mookie blow today?)
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To: DB

Thanks for your post. Right on the mark.


19 posted on 09/04/2010 8:28:55 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Libloather

LOL, what a stinking liar!


20 posted on 09/04/2010 8:31:49 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Libloather

Okay, this is me holding the gun on him like Tommy Lee Jones holding it on Harrison Ford in “The Fugitive and saying:

“I don’t care.”


21 posted on 09/04/2010 8:36:09 PM PDT by RichInOC (Meg Whitman 2010: Because Jerry Brown Sucked The First Time.)
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To: Libloather
Jerry Brown said Friday that if elected governor he would have to "do things that labor doesn't like,"

BS

22 posted on 09/04/2010 9:06:07 PM PDT by BAW (November. Let's roll.)
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To: Libloather
"If you're looking for frugality, I'm your man,"

BAH! BOO! You lie like a rug!

Jerry, I'm old enough to remember how you squandered the surplus Reagan built, and left the state with a deficit from which it has never recovered.

Sleeping in a tent with Linda Ronstadt doesn't cut it anymore.

23 posted on 09/04/2010 10:48:10 PM PDT by GVnana (I'm a Mama Grizzly)
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To: Libloather
If Moonbeam wants to do something "he doesn't like," I'm sure we can all think of something for him to do that he probably wouldn't like. A big anthill and a jar of honey come to mind. I'll even throw in the shovel, Jer. Have at it.
24 posted on 09/04/2010 11:13:27 PM PDT by Othniel (Meddlng in human affairs for over 1/20th of a millennium.......)
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To: Kenny Bunk; Libloather; AT7Saluki; writer33
Jerry Brown says he Would Cut Public Employees' Pensions If Elected................

The mystery of Jerry Brown's pension (Jerry's a double-dipper)
Orange County Register via DrudgeReport | 8/13/2010 | Brian Joseph
FR Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 by GVnana

As Cali gubernatorial candidate Jerry Brown grabbed the spotlight with his criticism of Bell city officials and their outrageous salaries and pensions, The Orange County Register Watchdog got to wondering: How much will the Democrat for Governor make in retirement?

That, as it turns out, is a very difficult question to answer.

After more than a month of investigation, the Watchdog can only say for certain that Brown and a handful of other top officials are eligible for generous benefits under a special pension fund so obscure that few people in government know how it works and many thought it had been eliminated 20 years ago by outraged voters.

Under the law, Brown should have accrued, at most, 16 years of service credit in this special fund, known as the Legislators’ Retirement System, or LRS. Actuarial statements produced by LRS, however, indicate that an unnamed person of Brown’s age and earning Brown’s exact salary has been credited with 25 to 29 years of service. The difference would mean tens of thousands of dollars in additional pension payments for Brown each year.

Brown’s campaign staff acknowledge the unnamed person sure looks like the gubernatorial candidate but have been unable to explain the discrepancy over service. Officials at the California Public Employees’ Retirement System, which manages LRS, have similarly refused to cooperate ... -snip-

But perhaps most eyebrow-raising is the service of a current LRS member identified in actuarial reports only as 65 years or older with 25 to 29 years of service and a salary of $184,301. -snip-

The person listed in the actuarials appears then to be Brown. -snip-

The only problem is Brown should have only 16 years of LRS-eligible service: four years as Secretary of State (1971 to 1974), eight years as Governor (1975 to 1982) and four years as Attorney General (2007 to 2010). (Excerpt) Read more at taxdollars.ocregister.com ...

25 posted on 09/05/2010 2:56:33 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All
California's "political money machine" to buy votes was engineered in the 1970s when the legislature cleared the way for public-employee unions to organize and bargain. Then-Gov. Jerry Brown signed the crucial bill in 1978.

California debt may be half a trillion dollars: They knew in 11/29/09..........and earlier.
Dan Walters, Sacramento Bee, 11/29/09
FR Posted by SmithL

Just days before Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and legislators finalized a water package, including an $11.1 billion bond issue, state Treasurer Bill Lockyer warned them not to do it. California is already deeply in debt, Lockyer warned, has huge budget deficits and can't afford another big bond issue. "The days of blithely heaping more and more debt burden on the general fund are over – at least they should be," Lockyer said.

The earmark-laden bond issue, the package's single most controversial element, raises an interesting question: Just how deeply in debt are our state and local governments? The answer: No one knows for certain, since debt is scattered through myriad agencies in many forms, but well over a half-trillion dollars is a fair estimate.

Lockyer's warning pertained to the state's "general obligation debt," which currently stands at $59 billion, and there are an additional $50-plus billion in general obligation bonds that have not yet been sold.

The biggest chunks of debt, however, are the unfunded obligations for pensions and health care of retired public employees. (Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...

26 posted on 09/05/2010 3:01:57 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Libloather

Mediterranean Fruit Fly


Fruit fly maggots hatch from eggs deposited in the fruit.


Jerry "Fruit Fly" Brown, Mr. Malathion

27 posted on 09/05/2010 3:27:56 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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