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American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?
The New York Times ^ | September 5, 2010 | LAURIE GOODSTEIN

Posted on 09/05/2010 8:25:01 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh

For nine years after the attacks of Sept. 11, many American Muslims made concerted efforts to build relationships with non-Muslims, to make it clear they abhor terrorism, to educate people about Islam and to participate in interfaith service projects. They took satisfaction in the observations by many scholars that Muslims in America were more successful and assimilated than Muslims in Europe.

Now, many of those same Muslims say that all of those years of work are being rapidly undone by the fierce opposition to a Muslim cultural center near ground zero that has unleashed a torrent of anti-Muslim sentiments and a spate of vandalism. The knifing of a Muslim cab driver in New York City has also alarmed many American Muslims.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; groundzeromosque; islam; muslims; obama; sharia
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To: Nateman

BTTT!


61 posted on 09/05/2010 8:59:54 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Marking Time On The Government's Dime)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Ask me that the day Christians have a church and belong in Saudi Arabia.

If you want to belong, you are living in the wrong culture.


62 posted on 09/05/2010 9:01:21 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Nope! As long as WE THE PEOPLE follow the Founding documents of this country, people that follow islam can not be allowed to become citizens because their religion is also a political system which is incompatible with the Constitution. They could not honestly take the oath to be a citizen.

The “religion” should be classified like Scientology was in Germany. It makes no sense to allow muslims to immigrate here unless we are trying to destroy our system of government.

Any officials that allow muslim immigration should be classified as subversives or traitors to our country.
Muslims need to go back to mecca or the other muslim countries. All non-muslim nations should ban them if they do not want sharia law.


63 posted on 09/05/2010 9:04:10 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Now, many of those same Muslims say that all of those years of work....

Excuse me? WHAT work?

64 posted on 09/05/2010 9:05:37 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Here's a thought!! Donate to the website you are on RIGHT NOW!!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
As long as you follow the terrorism manual known as the koran, no.

As long as you live in submission to the fantasy deity created by a demon possessed pedophile, No.

As long as you consider women to be chattel to be used or abused at whim, NO.

And there's a whole litany of grievances including stolen lands, desecrated holy sites, ongoing slavery in mohammedan occupied territories that you will have to address before you should dare to get your collective noses out of joint.

Before you demand to be accepted on your merits, you should consider the reality that there are damned few to stand on at the moment.

65 posted on 09/05/2010 9:06:44 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
I observed from the NYT article the photograph of the learned Doctor and his wife with two children. The credit is to the NYT. One could not wish for a more disarming picture of really nice people. What in the name of reality is the NYT up to?. Few people could feel threatened by such an overall picture.

Sadly that is not the true representation. One look at a photograph of Imam Rauf, sends a chill down my spine. For other pictures of Imams show men with hard, taut faces. The eyes cold and penetrating. Their icy proclamation of the "laws you made" in demanding something, can only be construed as a grinding down of the normal niceties of civilized discourse.

No the NYT are not the only ones in this business. Old CBC of Canada runs "Little Mosque on the Prairie" and I think another season looms. The Imam, a young edition of the late Rudolph Valentino, described as "metro sexual". He jokes and laughs. Yes, this is the Canadian mock up of an Imam.

Back we go to the hard staring faces of the real men in Canada. These men and wicked plots by afluent young men, to carry out terrorist acts coupled with the delays at airports are taking a toll. We non-muslims are only human after all.

66 posted on 09/05/2010 9:08:19 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: bareford101

I echo the words:... you can stop wondering.
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Let me add NO.


67 posted on 09/05/2010 9:10:08 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: savagesusie
"They could not honestly take the oath to be a citizen."

A couple have already been sworn into office & laid their hand on the Koran to take their oath, instead of the Bible.

68 posted on 09/05/2010 9:14:12 PM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world.. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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To: quantim

There is no such thing as a muslim-American.

Two words that are incompatible.

Just as there is no such thing as a Christian-American.

It really is time to go after the whore writers, and make it personal
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And there is no such thing as an African-American, just like there is no such thing as a European-American...enough with the hyphenations already! You are either an AMERICAN or something else, but you cannot be both.


69 posted on 09/05/2010 9:14:15 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: Personal Responsibility

It could be that many muslims including the ‘moderates’ do not know all that the Koran is about , very much like people of other faiths who do not know of the teachings and obligations of their faith. However history has given a good indication of muslim intentions for the world.


70 posted on 09/05/2010 9:17:02 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Short answer: NO.

When I hear the word Muslim, I think “terrorist”.


71 posted on 09/05/2010 9:17:22 PM PDT by bopdowah ("Shove it down our throats in 2009 & we'll shove it up your ass in 2010!')
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Sorry. I'm sure you are nice folks as folks go, but its the koran.
Its a blueprint to destroy Nations that don't bend the knee to satan/Alah. And although it is true that satan (the Prince of the Power of the Air) is the god of this world - we won't bend our knee to him.

So chuck your koran, and pledge allegiance to the Flag and the Constitution - and you are welcome to stay.
Better yet - find Christ. Bend your knee to HIM and be saved.

72 posted on 09/05/2010 9:18:21 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?

When satanallah welcomes you to hell, yes.

73 posted on 09/05/2010 9:24:46 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

“...Will we ever belong?”

NO! GET THE HELL OUT!


74 posted on 09/05/2010 9:26:39 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?

No. And may I kindly add since you Muzzies don't belong here:

JUST GET OUT NOW!

Your cooperation in this matter is greatly appreciated. HAND and HTH.
75 posted on 09/05/2010 9:27:58 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas...)
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To: Nat Turner

“Pick one as the Koran and Constitution are virtually mutually exclusive...”

Very true. Islam teaches that the Koran is the EXACT word of Allah. They believe (logically) that man cannot create any law above God’s law as stated in the Koran. Therefore, true moslems cannot accept any civil authority above the Koran. Consent of the governed cannot supercede God’s law.


76 posted on 09/05/2010 9:29:42 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (Refudiate 0bama '12)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Will We Ever Belong?

I seriously doubt it. And that's a shame. But as long as you guyz adhere to a bunch of beliefs that run counter to American morals and mores you won't. I won't belabor the point. Y'all know the beliefs I'm talking about.

77 posted on 09/05/2010 9:44:39 PM PDT by upchuck (If we let the federal gvmnt live beyond its means, we will soon have to live below ours. ~Joe Miller)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
The Mosque at Ground Zero is about SUBMISSION, not tolerance.
78 posted on 09/05/2010 9:47:20 PM PDT by upchuck (If we let the federal gvmnt live beyond its means, we will soon have to live below ours. ~Joe Miller)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?

No, now get your terrorist enabling asses the hell out of our country before we wrap you in pig skin and drop you off over mecca.

Filthy bastards, they attack us, kill more than 3,000 people on our soil on 9-11 and then have the audacity to ask "will we ever belong?"

Not just no, but HELL F**KING NO!

79 posted on 09/05/2010 9:54:09 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Malone LaVeigh

“Now, many of those same Muslims say that all of those years of work are being rapidly undone by the fierce opposition to a Muslim cultural center near ground zero that has unleashed a torrent of anti-Muslim sentiments and a spate of vandalism.”

So why aren’t they more vocal in advising against the Mosque? Why have they not denounced all of the Wahhabi Mosques across America whose Imams are blatantly in support of terrorist Jihadists?

As far as vandalism is concerned I don’t put it past some Muslims committing vandalism themselves. I am really not overly concerned about how these Muslims who have allegedly worked so hard to become a part of our society feel. Until they publicly and in great numbers condemn Jihadists I don’t trust them.


80 posted on 09/05/2010 9:54:22 PM PDT by SkipW
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