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Man Faces Charges For Firing Warning Shots at Gang on His Lawn
fox ^ | Tuesday, 09.07.2010 | Jennifer Peltz

Posted on 09/07/2010 8:01:18 PM PDT by Coleus

A homeowner who grabbed a rifle from his house and fired warning shots in a confrontation with a group of men on his lawn faces criminal charges, but his family said he was defending his home from a threatening mass of strangers.

George Grier, 30, fired rounds into the ground and air from an assault-style rifle after arguing with a large group of men gathered outside his Long Island home Sunday evening, Nassau County police said Monday. No one was hurt.

His sister, Caprice Rines, said Grier feared for the safety of his wife and two small children when about 20 men converged on his Uniondale lawn after two of them began quarreling. He didn't know the men, who ignored his requests to leave and kept approaching the house, she said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; longisland; ms13; ny; uniondale
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To: TigersEye

“He starts threatening my family, my life. ‘Oh you’re dead. I’m gonna kill your family and your babies. You’re dead.’ So when he says that, 20 others guys come rushing around the corner. And so I fired four warning shots into the grass,”

Article also says that his gun was legally owned. It’s insane that this guy is getting hassled by the cops. Hope he finds peace and respect from the thugs and court system. Seems like a good guy.


61 posted on 09/07/2010 10:20:43 PM PDT by purplelobster
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To: Tired of Taxes
But, with a large group of men swarming the property, I can understand a homeowner wanting to keep them away from the house, instead of waiting for them to try to get inside.

Why would he want to increase the defended perimeter? Quite the opposite, the defender(s) want to use natural obstacles (such as walls) to help them out.

Another view of the same: if you defend a larger area then all 20 attackers can spread out, pick their own positions and do unto you whatever they want. But if you defend a smaller area, like a house with two doors on the ground floor, those 20 attackers will have to stand in line to get inside, blocking each other from any efficient action against you, and presenting themselves to you one by one, allowing your AR-15 to cycle.

Besides, as the guy in the story is now hearing from his lawyer, shooting at a gang member within your house is very much different from the same shooting at the same guy just outside of the house. The difference is measurable in years.

62 posted on 09/07/2010 10:24:57 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: purplelobster

Sadly, he may have a better chance of settling things reasonably with the gangbangers. The DA will probably be looking to make an example of him to build his/her political creds.


63 posted on 09/07/2010 10:27:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Greysard

I see what you mean. But, I can understand his decision made quickly in the heat of the moment, too.


64 posted on 09/07/2010 10:46:10 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Candor7

Exactly.

One of those nice Front Sight yard signs of the torso target with a double tap to the chest and one to the cranial vault, saying, “Nothing Inside Worth Dying For” might be considered warning enough.


65 posted on 09/07/2010 11:05:06 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Greysard

That guy would have been much better off firing from cover.

The flank is always best,,,

The laws in Louisiana are very clear on this,,,

“Fear of loss of life.” rules all,,,

In the house/yard/car/street,,,no retreat,,,

One store owner shot a robber twice in the store and

put another round in his back outside,,,

Fell dead in front of a cop,,,

Another shot two robbers in the back while they were trying

to get away with his money...


66 posted on 09/07/2010 11:07:53 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: BookaT
I am sure myth busters may have to do this but I think a 7.62 round shot “in the air” would not do much more harm that taking that same bullet and throwing it as hard as you can at someone.

Must be pretty safe. Muslims do it all the time at weddings.

67 posted on 09/07/2010 11:20:12 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: behzinlea
“No one died. No one was hurt. They left him alone. Seems like an effective negotiation strategy to me.”

Pointless antagonizing that gets HIM arrested and has evil bastards sneering at him and threatening his family with death at a future date to be announced. As well as firing a gun in a manner that could get an innocent person three blocks away killed. Stupid covers it.

68 posted on 09/08/2010 3:05:02 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Coleus
Google "Brittany Zimmerman"
69 posted on 09/08/2010 7:48:26 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Don W

“A 12 gauge with 00 buck would be a far more effective tool.”

Not against 20 plus people.


70 posted on 09/08/2010 12:42:38 PM PDT by Bizhvywt
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To: Bizhvywt
Not against 20 plus people.

If you take out 2 or more, you've won the battle with a superior kill ratio.

71 posted on 09/08/2010 12:52:23 PM PDT by meyer (Our own government has become our enemy,...)
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To: Bizhvywt

My Mossberg holds 5 shells. The first shell goes into the ground. The next one is aimed at the guys coming towards me. If that doesn’t discourage the rest of the group, the remaining 3 shots will ensure that their number is much diminished before they get to me.

That said, gang members are by definition COWARDS, and will always scatter and run away when they are faced with a determined defense.


72 posted on 09/08/2010 8:34:54 PM PDT by Don W (I keep some folks' numbers in my 'phone just so I know NOT to answer when they call...)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Google "Brittany Zimmerman"

 

Brittany Zimmerman

thanks for the heads up

73 posted on 09/09/2010 9:37:16 AM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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