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No Need for God? Stephen Hawking Defies Divine Creation(his 'Grand Design' Minus the Grand Designer)
Albert Mohler blog ^ | 9.7.10 | Dr. Albert Mohler

Posted on 09/07/2010 9:57:10 PM PDT by This Just In

No Need for God? Stephen Hawking Defies Divine Creation

Professor Stephen Hawking is a remarkable human being. His courage and tenacity are an inspiration to all. His work on the theory of gravity has changed the way the field of physics is taught. But, when he crosses that border from science to theology, his worldview leads him into abject disaster.

Tuesday, September 7, 2010

By any measure, Stephen Hawking is one of the most famous and influential figures in modern science. For thirty years, he served as Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at the University of Cambridge, and his career before and after his decades in that post is the stuff of scientific legend. He is also probably the longest-living person ever to be diagnosed with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis [ALS], and the very fact that he has been productive since that diagnosis at age 21 is a testimony to his sense of personal mission and sheer determination.

Professor Hawking is out with a new book, and in The Grand Design, he, along with co-author Leonard Mlodinow, now presses his case against God — or at least against any role for God in the origin of the universe or the beginning of time.

(Excerpt) Read more at albertmohler.com ...


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To: This Just In
Dr. Hawking is a scientist, not a theologian

Well, it seems like he thinks he is. How dumb is anyone to write a book referring to God when he doesn't know a damn thing about HIM! According to stevie's LOGICAL mind - he thinks he knows the supernatural.

When he meets his Maker - God could say one thing about His Universe (that Stevie cannot see/understand right now) and then the light bulb with go off - 'I never thought of it that way'! It will be too late for stevie wonder, though.
21 posted on 09/07/2010 11:13:12 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Huskrrrr

I have never, ever understood the cult following that he has accrued. He seems to be another personality who is famous for being famous.

Anyway, my plumber is more important to me, and I actually do have respect for his opinions and scholarship.


22 posted on 09/07/2010 11:18:15 PM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: This Just In

The detritus of billions of years.

God.


23 posted on 09/07/2010 11:26:02 PM PDT by onedoug
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"No Need for God? Stephen Hawking Defies Divine Creation"

All that is manifest here is simple, arrogant, ignorance of reality, which should be the greatest defamation for any man of science. The obvious counterargument for Hawking is to explain away the regeneration of a human spirit separate from Divine Creation. How is such possible without God? The consequences are eternal for those already condemned.

24 posted on 09/07/2010 11:26:28 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: This Just In
When is someone going to trip over this guys electric cord and rid us of his evil liberal rantings.

Soon he will be in for a big surprise too. If he thinks he has suffered throughout his life here, just imagine how he will spend his eternity.

25 posted on 09/07/2010 11:34:57 PM PDT by skimask
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To: skimask

This is nothing more than a rehash of “curved time” idea he presented at the end of A Brief History of Time.

Although I regarded ABHOT as a very good book when I read it, I remember scratching my head about the supposed profundity the final chapter. As best as I remember it, Hawking seemed to be saying that there was really no time zero, hence no creation, thus no need for a Creator.

All well and good Stephen, except it doesn’t explain why the universe exists and we’re all here to wonder about it.


26 posted on 09/08/2010 12:06:43 AM PDT by DarrellZero
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To: This Just In
What is this? Did every atheist journalist get some secret memo telling them all to write a column saying that Hawking DENIES there is a GOD ?????

First off, he never said it.

He did indicate that GOD should not be used as an 'answer' when trying to solve science problems. That just makes sense.

Second.... this is about the third or fourth article making the same invalid claim.

27 posted on 09/08/2010 12:15:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill informed post.)
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To: Greek
, there actually is a God, it’s Hawkings himself.

It is a true statement that everyone worships either the true God or himself.Their are no other alternatives.

28 posted on 09/08/2010 2:03:23 AM PDT by good1
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To: Greek

great logic!
I might have to borrow it ;-)


29 posted on 09/08/2010 2:41:04 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: This Just In

I have always thought Hawkings was just a puppet and some other person was doing the work and talking via his so called intelligence He has been around longer than the computer that is suppose to be talking for him.


30 posted on 09/08/2010 2:43:10 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: This Just In

Hawking was and is a brilliant physicist. He has spent his life searching for the Grand Unified Theory. Having failed at finding it, he creates his own religion... something that must be taken on faith because proof is impossible. I guess gravity is relentless... it is even pulling Hawking down.

CC


31 posted on 09/08/2010 3:35:31 AM PDT by CapedConservative (Stop Obama)
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To: This Just In

It’s interesting that many times when someone publicly denies God or mocks Him, He calls them for a face to face!!


32 posted on 09/08/2010 4:14:25 AM PDT by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: This Just In
To me, Hawking is an intellectual fraud....period.
33 posted on 09/08/2010 5:51:04 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I believe in man-made political climate change.)
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To: UCANSEE2

“Hawking DENIES there is a GOD ?????”

Well, if this isn’t a denial, I don’t know what is:

“Some would claim the answer to these questions is that there is a God who chose to create the universe that way. It is reasonable to ask who or what created the universe, but if the answer is God, then the question has merely been deflected to that of who created God. In this view it is accepted that some entity exists that needs no creator, and that entity is called God. This is known as the first-cause argument for the existence of God. We claim, however, that it is possible to answer these questions purely within the realm of science, and without invoking any divine beings.”

Dr. Hawking also stated:

“As recent advances in cosmology suggest, the laws of gravity and quantum theory allow universes to appear spontaneously from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going.”

“Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing,” Hawking and Mlodinow explain.”

You see, UCANSEE2, Dr. Hawking clearly states his belief concerning the question of, “Does God exist?”


34 posted on 09/08/2010 10:09:04 AM PDT by This Just In
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The engram of God was the very reason Einstein taxed his brain to such a wonderful extent as he did: he wanted to know how God thought! What a wonderful and extremely loaded question to dedicate ones life too! What a Philosopher!

Hawking's dealing with his God is between him and his God. At the very core of the covenant is the truth that God always welcomes back those who he feels have at sometime defied his wishes, in short, we mere humans can't help but question. God knows this. It is for each of us to decide, and Hawking and his awesome brain is for him and his God to decide, sorry. Hawking's affliction for me tells me that he deals with God on a much more questioning level than most; he has been dealt such a blow. I think for such a crippled man to question God is normal, he is after all one of us, mere, mortals, and his human bondage is the proof.

35 posted on 09/08/2010 4:00:25 PM PDT by dialectic (Giants shoulders for sure)
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To: dialectic

Hawking’s isn’t questioning God. Hawking has made his views quite clear concerning the Grand Designer. He clearly states that there is no God, and if He exists, God is merely the creation of man.

You commented:

“Hawking’s dealing with his God is between him and his God.”

That’s your opinion, and one which Hawking does not agree with. After all, he wrote a book on the subject. He isn’t keeping it “between him and his God.”

Albert Einstein made it clear that he doesn’t believe in God, so to base your “question” argument on this falsehood is completely groundless. You described Einstein as a “Philosopher”. Albert Einstein was not a philosopher by any stretch of the imagination. He was not schooled in the disciplines and principles, nor did he earn a degree in the field of Philosophy. He was a Physicist.

You said:

“At the very core of the covenant is the truth that God always welcomes back those who he feels have at sometime defied his wishes, in short, we mere humans can’t help but question. God knows this. It is for each of us to decide, and Hawking...”

You must be talking about another covenant. The Old and New Testament prophesy’s and reveals who Christ is, and what our personal relationship with Christ is through His death and resurrection. God reconciles with His own, which does not include those who reject him as the Almighty Creator and Savior.

Hawking has presented his position on the subject. He rejects God.


36 posted on 09/08/2010 10:09:31 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Please, please do not disappear, but rather please explain to me exactly what a philosopher truly is for you seem to know, it is more than a piece of paper we can agree. Do not go away but please engage me further, I should wish to know this question of a true philosopher. I believe that I might know, but through your perceptive well trained mind I, us, we might be able to see if Hawking is or is not a real philospher. Shall we dance pilgrim?


37 posted on 09/09/2010 2:39:30 PM PDT by dialectic (Giants shoulders for sure)
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To: dialectic

It is my policy to ignore noob trolls.


38 posted on 09/09/2010 10:42:01 PM PDT by This Just In
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Where oh where did you go?
I did not even call out the fact that the Old Testament was before christ, and rarely spoke of any kind of real resurrection other than Elijah I believe ascending to be by god, not really a resurrection, more like an ascent ion, but never a coming back from death by God as a benefit if worship to him, very rarely. What Old Testament are you referring to? But I do wish to explore the Philosophy question. If you feel not, maybe, I will, here, or on another thread, on another site.
39 posted on 09/10/2010 2:16:16 PM PDT by dialectic (Giants shoulders for sure)
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To: dialectic; KTM rider; pillut48; presently no screen name; Huskrrrr; Psalm 144; Cvengr

For our Freepers who have read post #36, here are just a few references to the prophesies concerning Jesus’ coming as well as the correlating fulfillment of these prophesies.

(Note to dialectic: Save your energy. Judging by your words, I suspect you are a noob troll)

MESSIANIC PROPHESIES

Old Testament Fulfilled by Jesus

Gen. 3:15 Gal. 4:4; 1 Jn. 3:8

Gen. 17:7 Gal. 3: 16

2 Sam. 7:12, 13 Acts 13:32

Malachi 3:1 Luke 1:17

Isaiah 7:14 Mt. 1:18

Mic. 5:2 Mt. 2:1

Isaiah 40:11 John 10:11-16

Deut. 18:15 Acts 3:20-22

Psalm 110:4 Hebrews 5:5, 6

Zech. 9:9 John 18: 33, 37

Isaiah 59:20 Luke 2:11

Ps. 69:8 Jn. 1:11; 7:3, 5

Isaiah 8:14 Rom. 9:32, 33

Isaiah 49:7 John 15: 24, 25

Psalm 69:9 Rom. 15: 3

Psalm 22:7,8 Mt. 27: 39-44

Mic. 5:1 Mt. 27: 30

Isaiah 50:6 Mk. 14: 65

Psalm 22:16 Jn. 19:18

Isaiah 53:12 Mk. 15: 27, 28

Isaiah 53:4-6 Jn. 1:29

Pss. 16:10 Lk. 24: 6, 31, 34


40 posted on 09/12/2010 10:41:25 PM PDT by This Just In
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