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Debate over: Obama rules out extending Bush tax cuts for richest taxpayers
Hotair ^ | 09/08/2010 | Allahpundit

Posted on 09/08/2010 9:11:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Message from The One to Peter Orszag: I won.

President Obama will rule out on Wednesday any compromise that would extend the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy beyond this year, officials said, adding a populist twist to an election-season economic package that is otherwise designed to entice support from big businesses and their Republican allies.

Mr. Obama’s opposition to allowing the high-end tax cuts to remain in place for even another year or two would be the signal many Congressional Democrats have been awaiting as they prepare for a showdown with Republicans on the issue and ends speculation that the White House might be open to an extension. Democrats say only the president can rally wavering lawmakers who, amid the party’s weakened poll numbers, feel increasingly vulnerable to Republican attacks if they let the top rates lapse at the end of this year as scheduled.

It is not clear that Mr. Obama can prevail given his own diminished popularity, the tepid nature of the economic recovery and the divisions within his party. But by proposing to extend the rates for the 98 percent of households with income below $250,000 for couples and $200,000 for individuals — and insisting that federal income tax rates in 2011 go back to their 2001 levels for income above those cutoffs — he intends to cast the issue as a choice between supporting the middle class or giving breaks to the wealthy.

Right. This is his way of baiting the GOP into opposing him so that Democrats can go back to screaming about how Republicans are the “party of the rich.” It ain’t much, but it’s a little something that might peel off a few populist independents before the midterms. The question is, what do the Blue Dogs do? Stick with the party and spare The One an awkward veto? Or defect in the Orszagian name of temporary tax cuts for everyone to provide a little extra stimulus? If the latter, they’ll spoil the whole partisan “party of the rich” attack. Exit question: Would an Obama veto be that awkward, really? It’d prove he was serious about keeping his campaign promise not to extend the cuts for wealthy taxpayers, but I wonder if the class warfare bonanza will outweigh the horrible optics of vetoing any sort of tax cut right now.


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1 posted on 09/08/2010 9:11:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I haven’t seen any bill that protects low and middle income from federal income tax increases when the tax cuts expire.


2 posted on 09/08/2010 9:13:05 AM PDT by avacado
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To: SeekAndFind
At least Obama has taken the uncertainty factor out of the economy.

Now it's certain that it will really suck.

3 posted on 09/08/2010 9:13:29 AM PDT by AU72
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To: SeekAndFind
So the ones that make over $250K/yr, aka MY CUSTOMERS, won't be so willing to use my services.

Just what the economy needs. /s

/johnny

4 posted on 09/08/2010 9:14:28 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind

Excuse me, was there an actual debate, or does debate mean WH sends up trial balloon and guages the NYTs opinion? This is a real WTF moment.


5 posted on 09/08/2010 9:14:36 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: SeekAndFind

Does anyone see how this benefits the homosexual community and the liberal community. Here’s why: If you make $250,001 as a married couple filing jointly and you have six children (or even say 4), you are going to pay the higher tax now. But if you are a gay person living with another gay person as your partner (no children) and each of you make $199,000 a year, you are going to pay the lower rate. This makes no sense at all.

People in this country are so foolish and do not seem to see through it at all. Obama is not only against America, he’s against families.


6 posted on 09/08/2010 9:15:47 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: SeekAndFind

Raise taxes on those making over $250K and they will simply raise their prices. The middle class will pay this which is the same thing as a tax increase.


7 posted on 09/08/2010 9:15:50 AM PDT by RC2 (Remember who we are. "I am America")
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To: AU72

RE: At least Obama has taken the uncertainty factor out of the economy.


Not by a longshot. We still have the November 2010 elections coming...


8 posted on 09/08/2010 9:16:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

One of the worst things the Republican Congress didn’t do was to make those tax cuts permanent.


9 posted on 09/08/2010 9:16:58 AM PDT by AU72
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To: SeekAndFind

This morning, on my local radio station, Fox News was talking about the Bush tax cut and kept saying that they were tax cuts for the rich. No bias there.


10 posted on 09/08/2010 9:17:22 AM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about The Stainless Banner - a free e-zine dedicated to the armies of the Confederacy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I forgot to add this in to my post. Another way this advances the liberal cause is because libs and Lefties are far more likely to not have children and to live together, thus receiving a better tax benefit from this. The couples who marry and file jointly and have children get ripped off. My definition of wealthy is not some couple making $250K. While they may be doing well, I don’t begrudge people doing well and they should not be penalized.


11 posted on 09/08/2010 9:18:24 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: AU72
It wasn't a Repubican Congress. It was a Democratic Senate/Republican House.

The Republicans didn't have the votes to make them permanent.

12 posted on 09/08/2010 9:18:50 AM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about The Stainless Banner - a free e-zine dedicated to the armies of the Confederacy.)
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To: AU72

Yeah but that was because of one vote, wasn’t it?


13 posted on 09/08/2010 9:18:56 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: SeekAndFind

The AnnointedIdiot merrily skipping along the idiocy road..... =.=


14 posted on 09/08/2010 9:19:03 AM PDT by cranked
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Those that run a business will do just that.

Those that are workers will just spend less on toys and fun, which means less need for workers at Best Buy or the local eatery.

One big circle of suck!


15 posted on 09/08/2010 9:19:26 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Please, please, please stop it with this "richest taxpayer" BS. Taxes are NOT assessed in accordance to how much wealth a person holds. Taxes are applied to wealth creation - not wealth. A person making $100K per year with $20 million in the bank pays the same amount of taxes as someone making $100K per year who lives in a homeless shelter and has an accumulated debt of $500K.

If you can find me a single Democrat who is in favor of taxing wealth instead of income (e.g. John Kerry, John Corzine, Maria Cantwell, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, etc.), please let me know.

16 posted on 09/08/2010 9:21:08 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: AU72

I think they could only have it temporary because they only had 51 Senate votes.....permanent budgets need 60 I believe.


17 posted on 09/08/2010 9:21:34 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: SeekAndFind

Which means everyone from the bottom on up will be taxed.

Obama never had any intention of not taxing everyone.


18 posted on 09/08/2010 9:24:15 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: AU72
One of the worst things the Republican Congress didn’t do was to make those tax cuts permanent.

They tried but the Rats wouldn't do it.

19 posted on 09/08/2010 9:28:13 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is his way of baiting the GOP into opposing him so that Democrats can go back to screaming about how Republicans are the “party of the rich.”


20 posted on 09/08/2010 9:29:12 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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