Posted on 09/08/2010 11:03:34 AM PDT by julieee
Haley Barbour Tells Pro-Life Republicans to Ditch Social Issues in 2010 Elections
Washington, DC -- Haley Barbour is the latest potential Republican presidential candidate to suggest that social issues like abortion should be taken off the table while making the economy the main focus. Despite the fact that polls show Americans strongly oppose the pro-abortion health care law, Barbour says fiscal issues should take priority.
http://LifeNews.com/nat6683.html
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What’s that supposed to mean? Do you have any evidence at all that would indicate Haley Barbour is less than 100% pro-life? His entire life in politics says he’s pro-life.
And frankly, the way so many R candidates are so "milquetoast" on behalf of the pre-born, in the 1 on 1 comparison, there often isn't any difference compared to the blue dog dem -- at least in protecting the pre-born.
Yep, we need to ignore God and take the Libertarian route, that worked well when we ran Goldwater.
Do we not remember how many people voted McCain, only because he put Palin on the ticket? We forget at our peril. I am sick of this Better Red Than Dead attitude that is pushed on this forum, by all the Palin hating libertarians. There are some things worse than dieing and I fear we shall soon face that choice.
I'm saying that except for things like partial-birth abortions and a few other bills that have yielded pre-born fringe protections, the Republican establishment as a whole has not wanted to assume the same risks as what the 19th-century Republican party took on.
In 1856 the Republican party took on the "twin relics of barbarism" as its social agenda. (And BTW it wasn't "convenient" for a fledgling party to take on the two toughest social issues back then).
No matter, in less than a decade slavery was struck a devastating to-be fatal blow; and within 34 years, headed up by Republican legislators, polygamy was likewise dealt a key devastating to-be fatal blow. (Note, 'twas the Democrats of the 1860s, 1870s, and 1880s who sided with the polygamists and tried to oppose the Republicans).
Whereas 19th century Republicans took sweeping reformation seriously; the 20th and 21st century have largely toyed and played at pro-life issues.
Oh sure, they've said wonderful things in their pro-life planks; and at times, bones are thrown during speeches. But protecting our offspring has never seemingly been a "serious establishment priority."
The issue is that, unfortunately, there are a lot of Mike Huckabee types that are conservative on social issues but could care less about limited government. As long as abortion is banned and gay marriage is turned back, the government can spend like there’s no tomorrow. That is what we had under George Bush and it was a disaster.
Those who scream every time someone suggests that we make fiscal restraint a priority are simply saying that the ONLY priority of the GOP should be abortion, gays and other social issues.
The sad part is that many fiscal conservatives are anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, etc. but realize that this country is going to collapse if we don’t make fighting Socialism the priority. Limited government is what protects us. A small federal government will not get involved in abortion and gay issues. It will stick to defense and other limited issues.
“Seriously - you don’t win by telling your base to piss off.
Even the most stupid among us ought to be able to figure that out.
Why is it, however, that FisCons - who supposedly are all businessy and good at math and smart and all that stuff - are too stupid to figure out how to build and keep a winning coalition?”
Haley Barbour has been the chairman if the Republican Party and one of the most successful governors in the nation, and you are giving him advice? What arrogance.
Look to 1980 to see what we need to do
Yep, we need to ignore God and take the Libertarian route, that worked well when we ran Goldwater.
1980 is when Reagan ran against Carter.
Barbour is speaking with forked tounge.
Is he saying we should just abandon the issues entirely or just leave them off for november so we can ratchet up post november?
conservative is conservative. hypenated conservatives is not electable.
A little balance and a tick back to reality...
Haley is strongly pro life.
He also knows that if we don't rip the nation off this economic collision course, infant abortion in any trimester will be the least of our worries, illegals and other thugs “aborting” people in their 20th, 30th, 40th or so year to rob them of what little we all have left will be on the forefront.
The only way to do that is to WIN....
And it is close enough to maximum bad this maybe our last shot.
I voted in both elections, did you? Of course I remember, I was trying to remind you that chasing Libertarians down their rabbit holes, is a lost cause.
Over 50 years ago I concluded the only difference in governments is how much of the wealth they are willing to share with their subjects, I have seen nothing in the last 50 years that would change my mind.
We are subjects, after all of an imperial, class whether we recognize that or not.
Try not paying your taxes and see what happens, yet those in the kings court never suffer any penalty, except maybe paying the back taxes, but we don't really know that for sure.
A guy's past record is no protection against his present stupidity. And what he's advocating is stupidity.
I have always been pretty much a one or two issue candidate . Those being abortion and gay rights. However in this current political climate I can see where now more than 1992 it really is the “economy studied” that the greatest majority of the people are concerned about. I have no doubts about Haley’s social views,and he is still one if the greatest political minds of the era,
Someone has been hanging out with the GOP Rino machinery too much. Just cause the Rinos say so, does not make it so. They have been killing the party.
If they run a pro-abort, pro-gay Republican candidate, they are going to lose the election because it is going to be a big deal. As they don’t nominate a baby elderly/hadicapped/marriage killer, unhappy issues fights won’t come up. Social issue conflicts only come up when the party runs a Rino.
If he thinks the “economy” does not include the promise to repeal death care, he’s going to lose the election. People don’t want tinkering for a slower road to control and oppression.
If he thinks he can get away without addressing the constitutional freedoms we have lost due to a bloated homeland security that has come to name Americans in his own Party domestic terrorists, he’s going to lose the election. People are very upset about the never ending loss of freedom.
The other thing Rinos don’t want to deal with is securing the borders and that is not going to work in the border states dealing with drug lords and criminal illegals. The Dems are going to be appealing to the Hispanic race vote with promises of open borders and unconditional citizenship. The Republicans had best be ready to show support the needs and interests of America and Americans and not foreign people and foreign lands. If we are going to have a president representing Mexico, we need to take over that land because we need the resources for the Mexican people.
These things matter to the public even if they don’t matter to the Rinos.
Most of us would have less problem killing you than giving up the issue.Apparently your commitment to "life" is less than you claim.
I can’t figure out where he got the idea that babies are a great national problem that must be dealt with by killing them.I see now, you're just a liar and a troll trying to stir things up with your lies about him.
No Haley. Babies are MORE valuable than winning Elections.Yeah, you're really going to stop abortions by not winning elections. I'm sure Democrats are going to immediately advance anti-abortion legislation and judges if they win.
Keep up the good work!
Regards,
TS
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