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“He’s going to burn a Koran? Quick, let’s go join a terrorist organization that mass-murders people”
National Review ^ | September 9, 2010 | Andy McCarthy

Posted on 09/09/2010 10:36:31 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

Hi gang, nice to be back. Unfortunately, as I describe further in today’s column, it’s like I never left.

In the column, I suggest we can assess the silliness of the rationalizations of the Ground Zero mosque by applying them to Pastor Terry Jones’s similarly provocative Koran-burning escapade — entirely legal, but a gratuitously offensive thing to do.

But that doesn’t begin to cover how vapid the commentary continues to be, particularly from the commander-in-chief — as President Obama took pains to remind us he is in an interview by George Stephanopoulos this morning.

According to Obama, Jones’s “stunt” (a fair description) is already “a recruitment bonanza for al Qaeda.” That’s absurd. No sensible person joins a terrorist organization dedicated to mass-murdering human beings because somebody torches a Koran.

If the president, who is principally responsible for American national security, actually believes what he says, what is his excuse for not confronting Islamic regimes? Not looney-tunes pastors with followings smaller than the First Lady’s traveling caravan; Islamic governments that confiscate and destroy bibles, crucifixes, Stars of David, and other articles of profound religious substance and symbolism to non-Muslims. That goes on, systematically, every single day — although not as often as you’d imagine because Islamic societies are so innately intolerant that there aren’t a lot of non-Muslim religious items to be found in, say, Saudi Arabia.

Jones is going to burn a Koran; sharia states kill human beings who renounce Islam. Does the president have an explanation for why Christians and Jews are not forming terror cells with the bonanzas of recruits that must be forming up on a daily basis given the sorts of “stunts” that, in Saudi Arabia, are known as law-enforcement?

Terry Jones is a jackass. I wish Americans would trip over themselves with a fraction of the zeal on display here to condemn the torching of the American flag — a symbol of freedom and sacrifice. But that’s beside the point. Burning a book sacred to Muslims is a stupid, provocative thing to do. Yet, it is conscious avoidance — okay, willful blindness — to claim that he is causing the threat to our troops, in addition to the threat of other attacks and rioting by Muslims (of the sort we’ve seen with the Danish cartoons, the false claims of Koran-flushing at Gitmo, the school teacher who named the teddy-bear Mohammed, etc.).

Those are all pretexts. The cause is Islamist ideology, which is dehumanizing of non-Muslims (or, in the case of the Ahmadi, even of Muslims who reject core parts of Islamic doctrine). It is the ideology that puts the world’s Muslims on a hair-trigger.

What Jones is doing is a desecration, not a national security threat. It merits being derided, as any desecration does. And it may indeed provoke a spike in the violence that will go, spike or no spike. But the national security problem is not Koran burning. It is a civilization indoctrinated by an ideology ever on the prowl for any excuse, real or imagined, to make mayhem. Wouldn’t it be nice if, while they publicly chide an American citizen for striking the match, our public officials took the occasion to chide the culture that turns its societies into dynamite?



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americanflag; bibleburning; burnbabyburn; intolerance; islam; koran; military; muslims; obama; palin; usflagburning
For Andy McCarthy fans.
1 posted on 09/09/2010 10:36:34 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: brytlea; Diana in Wisconsin; Kakaze; Tammy8; unkus; metmom; Cap Huff; svcw; leapfrog0202; Concho; ..

Ping


2 posted on 09/09/2010 10:41:34 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jumping in front of a parade and calling yourself "leader" doesn't make you one.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Keyword...sensible...you think murdering terrorists are sensible? They join even when someone doesn’t burn a Koran, don’t they?


3 posted on 09/09/2010 10:43:19 AM PDT by stuartcr (Nancy Pelosi-Super MILF.................................Moron I'd Like to Forget)
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To: greyfoxx39

I strongly recommend that people all over the world, especially Muslims burn Korans. I know it is a waste of toilet paper, but there is always a risk that some Islamic poison might attack the brain from a quick reading before wiping. People could toss them in the garbage, but there is always the chance that pages could blow free, and contaminate some dullard’s mind. Besides, they will either get buried or burned once the trash reaches its destination, so why bother, burn them now.


4 posted on 09/09/2010 10:44:30 AM PDT by pallis
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To: greyfoxx39
What did BO mean by saying the Pastor should listen to his “higher angels”? Could he not bring himself to say God?

And funny how all kinds of people are racing to the cameras to express outrage at burning the koran, but they can't bring themselves to express outrage at honor killings, abuse of women, genital mutilation.......and on and on.

5 posted on 09/09/2010 10:44:52 AM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: greyfoxx39

Islam must be an awfully fragile religion to be so hysterical over one copy of the Koran being burned. What happens if an arsonist in an Islamic country burns a house with a Koran in it? Do they behead the perp? How about a car accident which results in loss of a Koran - is the responsible driver executed? Sheesh.


6 posted on 09/09/2010 10:45:19 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/lydiablievernicht)
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To: greyfoxx39

Excellent article.


7 posted on 09/09/2010 10:46:39 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pallis

The Anti-Muslim Society wholeheartedly supports the public burnings of the Koran as political and social statements and encourages it to become a national event in every city.

AMS is run by Chris Davis. :P


8 posted on 09/09/2010 10:47:01 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: greyfoxx39

Geez, stop saying it’s a desecration. If you revere something as Holy or sacred it’s a desecration, but do these commentators view the koran as such? I don’t. Why do they?


9 posted on 09/09/2010 10:51:23 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: GeronL

“AMS is run by Chris Davis.”

Okay! I’m more for not joining anything, just getting people to rid themselves of Islamic poisoning. Muslims are especially in need of Koran burnings. They need the mental and spiritual enlightenment the absence of Islam brings. Love the Muslims, and hate the demonic religion that oppresses them.


10 posted on 09/09/2010 11:04:02 AM PDT by pallis
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To: greyfoxx39
Rather than burning these Korans to mark a past event -- how about collecting several thousand Korans, and holding them 'hostage'? Announce that 1,000 Korans will be burnt, every time a future outrage is committed. A woman is stoned for adultery -- 1,000 Korans up in smoke. A soldier, journalist or aid worker or other hostage is beheaded -- hold a Koran bar-b-que. A suicide bomber kills innocent people -- throw incendiaries into a pile of Korans.
11 posted on 09/09/2010 11:04:09 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: ReneeLynn
My tinfoil hat contributor suggests that we watch this kind of even closely. All this could be the run-up to the declaring of a “National Emergency” that would result in Obama postponing or calling off the November elections.

At the very least, it could result in polls being "guarded" by SEIU members and Black Pampers so as to "stop any trouble." In any case, I look for this "guarding" to take place on Eric Holder's orders.

12 posted on 09/09/2010 11:08:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jumping in front of a parade and calling yourself "leader" doesn't make you one.)
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To: greyfoxx39
All this could be the run-up to the declaring of a “National Emergency” that would result in Obama postponing or calling off the November elections.

We heard all this crap during Clinton's Presidency, and it's just as silly now.

13 posted on 09/09/2010 11:10:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: greyfoxx39

Someone want to tell me how the children in Beslan offended the terrorists?


14 posted on 09/09/2010 11:13:19 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: greyfoxx39

Absolutely. It appears someone is just begging for a crisis to bring the hammer down...


15 posted on 09/09/2010 11:14:20 AM PDT by derekr44
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
Someone want to tell me how the children in Beslan offended the terrorists?

They were Christians.

Holy New-Martyrs of Beslan, pray to Christ Our God that our souls may be saved!

16 posted on 09/09/2010 11:18:52 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: greyfoxx39

Saudi Arabia Desecrates Hundreds of Bibles Annually (Saudi Institute Friday, 20 May 2005 by Zachary Liben)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1410190/posts

Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:07:42 AM by paltz

Washington DC - The Saudi government burns and desecrates hundreds of bibles its security forces confiscate after raids on Christian expatriates worshiping privately or at border crossings.
As a matter of official policy, the government either incinerates or dumps bibles, crosses and other Christian paraphernalia.

Hundreds of Christian worshipers are arrested every year by Saudi police in raids on their private gatherings. Bibles, crosses and printed materials are confiscated and later burnt or dumped into trash. Bibles and other Christian paraphernalia found with travelers into the country are confiscated and destroyed.

Although considered as holy in Islam and mentioned in the Koran dozens of times, the Bible is banned in Saudi Arabia, and is confiscated and destroyed by government officials.


17 posted on 09/09/2010 11:18:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack attended the church of GD America for 20 years. He has NO room to speak out on religion.)
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To: greyfoxx39

In the old america if they had threatened to kill our soldiers for a guy burning the koran we would have said “every one of our soldiers you kill, we’ll kill 100 of you”

But sadly we are in the new america governed by liberals and rinos who believe that constitutional rights end when muslims start making threats.


18 posted on 09/09/2010 11:19:11 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (American Constitutional rights ARE NOT subject to muslim approval)
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To: greyfoxx39

Andy, you da man!


19 posted on 09/09/2010 11:22:31 AM PDT by Gritty (Big chunks of the West gives the impression itÂ’s dying to surrender to somebody, anybody-Mark Steyn)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I’m with you on that score, but don’t look for many more.
The USA is looking more like France and Britain everyday.
The “S” is standing for “Spineless” more and more.


20 posted on 09/09/2010 11:40:56 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: Liberty1970
Islam must be an awfully fragile religion to be so hysterical over one copy of the Koran being burned.

It is. It's second rate and acutely aware of it, hence can abide no competition.

21 posted on 09/09/2010 11:47:57 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: greyfoxx39

Excellent observations by Andy McCarthy in the National Review on the Florida ‘pastor’ (Terry Jones) Koran-burning show. This cult-like ‘pastor’ must be in publicity heaven, with everyone in America, including the president, howling about his plan to burn Korans. I agree with McCarthy that although Terry Jones is an idiot, the rank hypocrisy from the left when they try to defend the building of the Ground Zero mosque or Obama’s dangerously feeble reactions to a near-nuclear Iraq while claiming that this Koran-burning performance is a jihadist recruiting ‘tool’ are currently on full display for all to see - and America is watching.


22 posted on 09/09/2010 11:49:05 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: greyfoxx39
All this could be the run-up to the declaring of a “National Emergency” that would result in Obama postponing or calling off the November elections.

We had elections during the Civil War. Burning some book should have no effect.

23 posted on 09/09/2010 11:50:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan
We had elections during the Civil War. Burning some book should have no effect.

We didn't have a man in the White House who needed a reason to stop the elections. And it isn't the actual burning of a book, but the way the media and the Obama administration are using the subject.

I believe there is a concerted effort by the left to either provoke or lie about violence on the part of the conservatives over this issue. Your hat may disagree.

24 posted on 09/09/2010 12:02:40 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jumping in front of a parade and calling yourself "leader" doesn't make you one.)
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To: greyfoxx39

THANK YOU. Honestly, Obama’s smarmy entrance into this non-issue REALLY makes me want to burn a Koran. Where is his outrage about the GZmosque? etc.

Plus, they are already burning flags, even before 9/11 and the Pastor’s Planned Burning. Because ‘now we are going to have (yet) another temper tantrum. And it is your fault.’

Such babies.


25 posted on 09/09/2010 12:09:22 PM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: greyfoxx39

everybody should threaten to burn a koran unless obama releases his long form birth certificate!

that’ll put barry in a pickle! and make him look like an idiot!


26 posted on 09/09/2010 12:17:36 PM PDT by Captain Steve
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To: Liberty1970

Actually, Jones hopes/hoped to burn a pile of them, but other than that, yours is a point well-taken.


27 posted on 09/09/2010 3:15:31 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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