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To: DBeers

As you may have read in my previous post. I think homosexuality is an abhorrent behavior. I will reference God’s dealing with Sodom and Gomorrah as to my attitude.

However, in this country the freedoms given by the constitution demand that we, if we want our own freedom to have the ten commandments in court buildings, openly pray in public buildings such as schools, and all of the other freedoms we want, must allow others freedom as well as long as it does not infringe on our liberty or freedom.

That being said, you will agree with me that this country has gone well beyond removing or restricting the gay community from gathering through legislation. That change must come from within the Churches, homes, and schools. Given that even many churches have embraced the homosexual community I believe the overall battle has been lost on any great scale. If the Churches don’t get back to Biblical principles that family will not and thus society will not.

That all leaves us in the same situation as Noah found himself and Job found himself.

The thread we are in is on someone speaking to a group of individuals with whom we disagree. My contention was simply that he has the right to speak to that group and that does not necessarily mean he agrees with their lifestyle.

My bottom line is that we can not change a society unless we get back to a Spiritual base that starts in the Church or the individual and at this point the Churches are not doing the job as it seems to me.


29 posted on 09/16/2010 6:46:56 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
Your postings combined here do not seem cogent in my opinion. Maybe you should think about and reconcile your many feelings before arguing on the subject.

FIRST -freedom is endowed by the Creator -not the Constitution...

The Constitution guarantees freedom to practice religion without limit -it does not guarantee homosexual sex. There is no comparison between homosexual sex and religious practice nor is religious liberty threatened as a right to be lost if homosexual sex returns to the closet it came from...

As far as the discussion: If you think the battle is lost -why fight? If you think freedom trumps God why discuss God? If you think this is only about private behavior then why do we discuss it as if it is not private?

If a politician wants to align with groups pushing the homosexual agenda that is fine for him -he can sacrifice HIS principles and become corrupted in hopes of getting that bigger tent and more POWER (it works so well for populist collectives like the Dems who are nothing but an unprincipled mob)... Anyway, citizens that do not agree with him doing this CAN disagree with it and vote his *ss out! There is nothing wrong disagreeing with him if he leans RINO -suggesting this might endanger freedom or that religious liberty is it stake is ludicrous...

32 posted on 09/16/2010 7:13:30 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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