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President Ahmedinejad Threatens U.S. With War 'Without Boundaries'
ABC News ^ | 9/21/10 | Thomas Nagorski

Posted on 09/21/2010 10:02:48 AM PDT by Nachum

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To: OB1kNOb

I predict that his own people will slay him in the end. As for obama—he shakes in is boots at the thought of war with Iran and will do nothing if they should attack other lands. He is weak—weak presidents inspire our enemies to attack us. Wait til a US city is vaporized with millions dead—and see what happens. Obama will blame Bush, run to the UN, give a speech, and apologize to who ever blew up one of our cities. I hope I am wrong. I have been waiting for Obama to grow into the job-—he has failed. He’s making Carter look good.


41 posted on 09/21/2010 10:45:35 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Nachum

Let me add here an observation to my posting: Current events point to MacArthur’s strategy of island/target skipping and the “We Were Soldiers” battle to take the fight to the enemy on the part of Islam.

“The forty year theory.”
A post by Combat_Boots

Ibn Khaldun is famous in the world of studying Middle Eastern history as the author of “The Introduction,” (Al Muqaddimah). In this work, he outlines a cyclical theory of history, which comprises four phases:

1) Raw rise to power from a clan or nomadic group
2) Refinement of the reins of power
3) Apogee
4) Decadence and decline

The clannishness or “Asabiyyah” of a group progresses through “level(s) of civilization…(and is) strongest in the nomadic phase. Once the rise and fall occurs, “another more compelling Asabiyyah may take its place” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqaddimah).

The volumes contained in the actual history that “The Introduction” precedes are not only long, but also varied and expansive. In a nutshell, Ibn Khaldun ties time in terms of specific generations to the physical space those generations occupy. For example, the idea of a social contract is explained, as is a description of the tension between the power of the rural versus the city. “Ibn Khaldun conceived both a central social conflict (”town” versus “desert”) as well as a theory (using the concept of a “generation”) of the necessary loss of power of city conquerors coming from the desert” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqaddimah).

The length of each of the four power phases listed above is approximately one generation, or 40 years. That being said, we are witnessing waves of varying strength in the global conflict between Islam and the Western World that has existed since the breakout of Islamic military conquest in 711. Significant events in Western-Islamic tension have continued unabated. While these dates are not exactly 40 years apart, they nonetheless suggest that the conflict has never ceased, but, has simply permeated ever more deeply into the ethos of the peoples involved—beyond military capabilities to the citizenry. To wit, as evidence, please consider these dates:

1450s – Vlad Dracula fights the Ottoman Turks
1492 – Moors leave Spain @ Granada
1529 – 1st Siege of Vienna
1530 – Little War in Hungary
1565 – Siege of Malta
1571 – Battle of Lepanto
1590 – Treaty of Istanbul (generally with Persia, but including Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia)
1593-1606 – The Long War
(Note: the Hapsburg/Venetian/Russian forces capture a number of previously held countries in the 16 and 1700s)
1683 – 2nd failed siege of Vienna
1687 – Second Battle of Mohacs
1699 – Treaty of Karowitz
1716-1718 – Battle of Petrovaradin or Battle of Peterwardein
1730 – Rebellion of Patrona Halil and end of the ‘Tulip Period’
1739 – Treaty of Belgrade
1798 – Napoleonic expedition in Egypt
1807 (and following) Tanzimat period of modernization
1813 – Serbian Uprising
1821 – Greek War of Independence
1853 – Crimean Ward Charge of the Light Brigade
1867 –Formation of Austro-Hungarian Empire in the Ausgleich or Compromise of 1867,
1877 – Russo-Turkish War 1878 – Treaty of San Stefano
1913 – First Balkan War
1914 – World War I & collapse of the Ottoman Empire
1937– Rise of Nazism, creation of the Islamic Corps under the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem
1948 – War against Israel
1967 – Six Day War
1983 – Murders of US Marines in Beirut
2001 – 9/11

The Spice Routes founded the circumvention of the Middle Eastern trade routes as assuredly as the oil routes have led to the same area. The market for trade goods has been and will continue to be the locus of control. It isn’t that the Crusades of 1095-1261 ended; they merely crossed over religious bounds to market control and, now, to recognition of the cultural clash.

Also see: “The Gunpowder Empires” http://www.nipissingu.ca/department/history/muhlberger/2805/gunpow.htm

Reference: http://www.museo-on.com/go/museoon/home/db/exhibitions/_page_id_977.xhtml


42 posted on 09/21/2010 10:47:46 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Nachum

When Mr. Almedinejad shoots off his big mouth and threatens the U.S. with war, does anyone beleive that he is aware that just one of our subs has enough firepower to destroy every major and a few minor cities in Iran, all within about ten minutes time total? Never were the words “be careful of what you wish for” more appropriate.


43 posted on 09/21/2010 10:49:10 AM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: Nachum
'Without Boundaries'

Clearly, without doubt, language of the left.

44 posted on 09/21/2010 10:50:51 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I believe in man-made political climate change.)
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To: Force of Truth
He’s in America and still breathing? WHY?

Because by our choice (majority voted for Obama), we are a conquered nation.

45 posted on 09/21/2010 10:57:52 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: Nachum
Acheimadenaijad some needs to give you some good advice.....
46 posted on 09/21/2010 10:59:27 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Lord help our Armed Service members that they not become pawns in Hussein's quest to destroy America)
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To: Nachum

Is this what he means?

http://www.tangle.com/view_video?viewkey=0861ff3eabea1ceb73e4


47 posted on 09/21/2010 11:00:28 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: ANGGAPO

*** I suspect that Amadumyjon does not know a thing about TOTAL war. ***

He knows exactly what he is doing. His hope is to start an apocalyptic war that will see the return of the 12th Imman, the hope of all the Shia mohammedans.


48 posted on 09/21/2010 11:02:49 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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To: Nachum
...the U.S. will face a war that "would know no boundaries."

The mother of all battles, their stomachs are roasting in Hell, blah, blah, blah...

We've heard it all before, Mahmoud.

49 posted on 09/21/2010 11:03:28 AM PDT by Allegra (Flank steak is very lean.)
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To: OB1kNOb
Saddam Hussein promised, “The Mother Of All Battles” and went from a palace to a spider hole to the end of a rope. So, be careful of making threats you Iranian pipsqueak.
50 posted on 09/21/2010 11:09:19 AM PDT by JPG (Care for another lobster, Mookie? How's your steak? Ready for another triple Stoli/rocks?)
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To: ANGGAPO

He is a man, not an adult male. That is why the liberals hated him. He stood up for America and didn’t apologize for America.
Wasn’t he refreshing while he lasted?


51 posted on 09/21/2010 11:16:16 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Nachum

Piss off, numbnuts!


52 posted on 09/21/2010 11:17:29 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: warpsmith
Well, that problem kind of answers itself, doesn't it?

Only for those with open eyes and courage...sigh....

53 posted on 09/21/2010 12:16:36 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremest use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: Nachum

Let’s do it.


54 posted on 09/21/2010 12:29:00 PM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: Puppage
And why not. We're letting these animals build a mosque in the same place.

Drip, drip, drip...

55 posted on 09/21/2010 12:33:46 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: omega4412

Good list, but a little short on targets...


56 posted on 09/21/2010 12:38:33 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: JPG

Sadly. all of that happened under real U.S. presidents. Remember, we now have an ineligible usurper in the White House who also happens to be a clueless fool and likely Muslim.


57 posted on 09/21/2010 12:47:24 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Czar
Point taken. Barky probably wants to give him a kiss.
58 posted on 09/21/2010 1:06:16 PM PDT by JPG (Care for another lobster, Mookie? How's your steak? Ready for another triple Stoli/rocks?)
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To: JPG

After he bows first...


59 posted on 09/21/2010 1:15:45 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

UN asshats sit there and take this.

Where’s John Bolton when we need him??????????

I’d vote for him for President in a heartbeat.


60 posted on 09/21/2010 6:48:00 PM PDT by bitt
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