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US House puts oceans, coasts under UN: Senate vote will seal the deal
http://theintelhub.com ^ | 9-22-2010 | Carmen Reynolds, Paul McKain and Karen Schoen

Posted on 09/23/2010 8:24:21 AM PDT by Whenifhow

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Pelosi's Clear Act: HR 3534 is a MULTI-BILLION Dollar UN LAND GRAB EMAIL YOUR SENATORS HERE http://bit.ly/BTXqP Oppose ~ Senate Votes TODAY!

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1 posted on 09/23/2010 8:24:25 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Looks like we’ll need the GOP to filibuster this one as well.


2 posted on 09/23/2010 8:25:54 AM PDT by Grunthor (Name one country with a muslim majority that doesn't have brutal, repressive laws.)
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To: Whenifhow

Is it time for a military coup yet?


3 posted on 09/23/2010 8:27:18 AM PDT by ibytoohi
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To: Whenifhow

This seems to have slipped under the radar. We should have heard the Republicans opposing this loud and clear. It certainly should have been loud enough for the U. S. public to pick up on and speak out against.

Have others been aware of this? Am I the only one to not have heard of it?


4 posted on 09/23/2010 8:27:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail Prince Skid-mark, Barack Hussein Obama, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: DoughtyOne

If those in DC are voting to give up our coastlines to the UN, it is indeed time to head up there with far more than pitchforks.


5 posted on 09/23/2010 8:29:52 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: DoughtyOne

Found it yesterday on the Intel Hub, but today they are tweeting about it.


6 posted on 09/23/2010 8:30:26 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

This is outrageous


7 posted on 09/23/2010 8:31:33 AM PDT by Katnandu
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To: Whenifhow

Only took them 30 years !

I remember when Reagan shot it down.

Lesson in paying attention, these people never give up.


8 posted on 09/23/2010 8:31:50 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Whenifhow

Caqllme cynical but where in the bill does it grant control to the UN?


9 posted on 09/23/2010 8:32:01 AM PDT by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
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To: Whenifhow

0bama and the (D)istrict of (C)riminals are not the problem. It’s the abundance of morons that we have in this country who gave them the keys.


10 posted on 09/23/2010 8:33:15 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (toodamtall1@yahoo.com. From Ft. Lauderdale, Florida)
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To: Whenifhow
Article VI

All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

11 posted on 09/23/2010 8:33:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: Whenifhow

The last days of any congressional term are always the most dangerous. We must be more vigilant than ever!


12 posted on 09/23/2010 8:34:03 AM PDT by jpl (It's "My Big Fat Deadly Greek Riot", coming soon to a bankrupt socialist state near you.)
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To: Whenifhow
which drives American companies out of the Gulf, delays future drilling, increases dependency on foreign oil,

Who cares?
Those aren't "American" companies, they're "global" companies anyway.
And besides, if Boehner was really serious about reducing our dependence on foreign Oil,
he'd support efforts to upgrade our passenger-rail infrastructure which is much more energy efficient than either airline or highway travel.

13 posted on 09/23/2010 8:36:06 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer – and some people polka.)
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To: Whenifhow

I’m a little slow. Can you point out the verbiage in the bill that puts our coasts under the control of the UN? TIA


14 posted on 09/23/2010 8:36:50 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: DoughtyOne

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2591798/posts


15 posted on 09/23/2010 8:37:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Willie Green

Uh yeah lets find a 19th century solution to our problems Troll.


16 posted on 09/23/2010 8:38:33 AM PDT by omega4179 (Rino hunt 2010!)
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To: Willie Green

Oh good Lord.


17 posted on 09/23/2010 8:40:25 AM PDT by rlmorel (Puritianism is the fear someone is having fun. Liberalism is the fear someone is making money...)
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To: Willie Green

So a train full of people taking a week to cross the country is more efficient then a 4 hour flight?


18 posted on 09/23/2010 8:40:57 AM PDT by edcoil (Man can do the most amazing things if they have the most amazing things to do.)
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To: Willie Green
Boehner was really serious about reducing our dependence on foreign Oil, he'd support efforts to upgrade our passenger-rail infrastructure which is much more energy efficient than either airline or highway travel.

If rail travel were more efficient, it would be cheaper. Which it is not.

What is needed is the removal of government impediments to energy development, not more government distortions of the market.

19 posted on 09/23/2010 8:41:05 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (IMG SRC="http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4wnfZLXa9jmelZVeXnOrapJaRo4DQ6wxU9-lN8xg0RGOjpc)
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To: Raebie

For the moment - please open the link and read the info - I will look to see if I can find the exact language in the bill.


20 posted on 09/23/2010 8:41:46 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
Would anyone be interested in actually reading the legislation before storming the UN and demanding our shores back?

HR3534

21 posted on 09/23/2010 8:42:11 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Willie Green
he'd support efforts to upgrade our passenger-rail infrastructure which is much more energy efficient than either airline or highway travel.

We don't take cars or planes because they are "energy efficient", we take them because they give us more FREEDOM.

22 posted on 09/23/2010 8:42:35 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: DoughtyOne
Perfect example of Uncle Sugar's distract / disinformation campaign.

Keep the American people distracted while covertly slipping legislation, regulation, treaties into place.

Think about it...ewww ewww, Avian flu, West Nile, H1N1, Climate change, global warming/cooling, The Kenyan, Terror plot this...terror plot that, Global financial meltdown...stimulus stimulus stimulus debt debt debt, Chicoms are coming, The Russians are coming, Saddam Hussiens coming, Amadinajads coming, on and on and on.

All the while, quietly making these global NWO pacts and treaties that erode American soveigntry.

I dunno, just sayin...

23 posted on 09/23/2010 8:43:00 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Willie Green

[Tagline repaired]


24 posted on 09/23/2010 8:43:47 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: DoughtyOne

Slipped under the radar hell. We work for a living. How could we possibly keep up with all the subterfuge that is taking place in the government?

We knew about this but didn’t know they were going to vote on it. Would it have mattered anyway? We were focused on the spinate and the despicable dream act and repeal of don’t ask don’t tell. A telephone campaign can only accomplish so much and be done only so often especially when we aren’t be represented but instead being dictated to.

What I can’t get over is that we are paying these sons-of-bitches to do these things to us and are powerless to stop it any more often than in two year cycles. Armored dozers keep popping up in my mind. Not for the capitol but for the house and spinate office buildings and a bunch of cars and that damn tunnel and little subway train they ride around on. We should not make the same mistakes the guy in Granby, Colorado did. It would be a one way trip but worth the effort.


25 posted on 09/23/2010 8:46:15 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: DoughtyOne

The reason it slipped under the radar is that the Republicans work for the International Bankers just like the Democrats.


26 posted on 09/23/2010 8:46:50 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: Willie Green

Boxcar Willie, at it again. Rah, Rah AMTRAK!

Now, crawl back under your rock with all the other Trolls.


27 posted on 09/23/2010 8:47:08 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: Raebie

Just wait until Sharia Law is passed as our freedoms are sold off peace meal to those we can’t repay our national debt to.


28 posted on 09/23/2010 8:47:26 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: cripplecreek

Joe McCarthy is golden...


29 posted on 09/23/2010 8:48:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail Prince Skid-mark, Barack Hussein Obama, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

My going in presumption is that any new law will be another attack on my liberties, and that Congress has to prove me wrong before I will go along with it.


30 posted on 09/23/2010 8:49:57 AM PDT by Pecos (Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: Pecos
My going in presumption is that any new law will be another attack on my liberties, and that Congress has to prove me wrong before I will go along with it.

Sure, why let reality stand in the way of a good UN conspiracy theory?

31 posted on 09/23/2010 8:51:34 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Outlaw Woman

self ping


32 posted on 09/23/2010 8:52:18 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Extremism in defense of Liberty is sometimes necessary...)
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To: Willie Green

Cars and jets go to a lot of place trains cannot. Trains are only useful in densly populated area. Almost all of Amtrak is FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED, the only profitable area is the Northeast Corridor. If America is serious about energy independence, and our survival depends on that, see my tagline.


33 posted on 09/23/2010 8:53:51 AM PDT by east1234 (Cut, Kill, Dig and Drill!)
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To: ibytoohi

I agree.


34 posted on 09/23/2010 8:53:59 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: jpl

This entire Congress & White House should be tried for treason.


35 posted on 09/23/2010 8:56:14 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Whenifhow

Yeah, this is just what we need. :::sarc tag in case it is needed:::


36 posted on 09/23/2010 8:56:37 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Willie Green; Whenifhow
And besides, if Boehner was really serious about reducing our dependence on foreign Oil, he'd support efforts to upgrade our passenger-rail infrastructure which is much more energy efficient than either airline or highway travel.

Why not just use the nearly 300 year supply of oil we have inside the Continental US? No need to drill in the oceans, we have every drop we need for at least the next two and a half centuries (plenty of time to get a nuclear-based infrastructure going)...

And if YOU were serious about saving oil (rather than using what we have), you'd get off your dumb train kick and push vanpools (micro-transit) and hybrids, both of which are MUCH more fuel efficient than trains.

How about it, Willie? You want to stop using foreign oil? Then how about pushing to use the oil we have here (we have plenty, at costs lower than what we pay today), and pushing to reduce our consumption by using the lowest consumption solutions (vanpools and hybrids)?

37 posted on 09/23/2010 8:56:48 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Willie Green
Who cares?

One helluva lot of Americans who prefer personal freedom and mobility over being herded into government subsidized boxcars that only go places they don't want to go.

38 posted on 09/23/2010 8:58:48 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (King: "I have a dream"...Sharpton: "I want a check")
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39 posted on 09/23/2010 9:01:52 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: 1066AD

They never give up because we don’t write legislation to keep them from trying again. If Reagan shot it down, why didn’t the Republicans do something about it when they were in power? Knuckleheads.

When are our politicians going to get aggressive to protect this nation from the enemies within? Our enemies should have a little voice to remind of what this nation was built on because they want to take it away and that is all! The meek will inherit the earth after the Lord returns, not now!


40 posted on 09/23/2010 9:02:35 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: DoughtyOne

You’re not alone. I heard a little blurb about it a while back and then poof...nothing.

Hope this gets the attention it needs. I know I’ll do my part to get it out there.


41 posted on 09/23/2010 9:02:43 AM PDT by Tucker822
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To: 1066AD
Only took them 30 years ! I remember when Reagan shot it down. Lesson in paying attention, these people never give up.

This is why I say there is no reason to believe that we keep our dominance in the world. These commies/elites will NEVER stop until we become a turd world nation & we have NOBODY to stand up & fight the battles for us since this corrupt "Two-Party Cartel" is owned by those bastards.

42 posted on 09/23/2010 9:03:06 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Would anyone be interested in actually reading the legislation before storming the UN and demanding our shores back?

Look, if my lawmakers can't be bothered, why should I?

43 posted on 09/23/2010 9:03:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The battle lines are drawn: On one side, are Dems and Repubs. On the other, the Tea Party (us).)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Would anyone be interested in actually reading the legislation before storming the UN and demanding our shores back?

The .pdf of the bill is 282 pages.

If you read it all, why don't you allay the fears of those who haven't?

44 posted on 09/23/2010 9:03:21 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'd rather take my chances with someone misusing freedom than someone misusing power.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

govtrack is down. I guess too many freepers took your suggestion. :)


45 posted on 09/23/2010 9:04:11 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Whenifhow

We shall not win if we do not fight.

“America and Undeservedness”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2594895/posts


46 posted on 09/23/2010 9:09:13 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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If you read it all, why don't you allay the fears of those who haven't?

OK, the UN isn't mentioned anywhere in it. How's that for a start?

47 posted on 09/23/2010 9:09:29 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ibytoohi
Is it time for a military coup yet?

We are the militia. We are sitting on our hands, while our treasure and our very means of existing are being taken from us. And we tell ourselves that soon a Republican (or a wave of them) will come and save us; will turn back the clock, resetting America to a free economy and some basic fear of the Lord.

People under siege always holler that the enemy has come for their guns. But the enemy comes for our spirits.

And they come for the minds of our children; and for our food and water, after which our spirits are somewhat easier pickings.

So I don't scan the hill, looking for the cavalry here.

48 posted on 09/23/2010 9:11:35 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( A window seat, a jug of elderberry wine, and thou.)
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This may just be an intermediate step to full acceptance and ratification of the LOST treaty, which is an outright impingement on our national sovereignty, and also provides the UN with an income flow from fees and taxes. IT WOULD GIVE THE UN POWER TO LEVY TAXES ON US, AND AS A SIGNEE OF THE TREATY, WE WOULD BE FORCED TO COMPLY.

This is from the website FamilySecurityMatters.org, and is in line with what I know about the treaty:

By asserting UN authority over seven-tenths of the Earth's surface, LOST would be the largest territorial conquest in history.

In principle, the treaty would assert UN jurisdiction over U.S. territorial waters, and eventually over waterways within our country.

It would create a huge bureaucratic entity called the "Enterprise," which would regulate and tax all commercial uses of the high seas.

By taxing all efforts to develop the wealth of the seabed, the UN would be given a huge revenue stream, independent of national governments to push its agenda for international socialism.

The treaty would require the redistribution of cutting-edge technology from the U.S. to all governments in the "developing world," including extremely repressive governments.

This is not out of line with what I know about the treaty. We need to find out how this HR3534 will dovetail with the LOST treaty, because we know ALL liberals and many Republicans have a hard-on for that treaty.

These are PERILOUS times, folks, and it is not melodramatic to say so.

49 posted on 09/23/2010 9:17:06 AM PDT by rlmorel (Puritianism is the fear someone is having fun. Liberalism is the fear someone is making money...)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You mean like this from the article?

The Interim Report states that the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force includes adherence to the Law of the Sea Treaty (page 14). Its purpose is to establish a comprehensive set of rules governing the oceans. The Law of the Sea Treaty calls for technology transfers and wealth transfers from developed to undeveloped nations, and requires parties to the treaty to adopt regulations and laws to control pollution of the marine environment – all under the authority of the United Nations. Such provisions were among the reasons President Ronald Reagan rejected the treaty in 1982. As Edwin Meese, U.S. Attorney General under President Reagan explained recently, “…it was out of step with the concepts of economic liberty and free enterprise that Ronald Reagan was to inspire throughout the world.”

This Interim Report will provide a recommended framework for coastal and marine spatial planning and addresses conservation, economic activity, user conflicts and sustainable use – as well as social justice. Previously, there was no money for National Marine Fisheries Service to implement its mandates and to update its fisheries data collection system. But now with the “international flavor,” $900 million a year will be dedicated to a “global” approach to our land, oceans, coastal areas and Great Lakes. R


50 posted on 09/23/2010 9:17:17 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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