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Planned Parenthood Scared by Tea Party Success
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | September 23, 2010 | By Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on 09/23/2010 3:09:13 PM PDT by topher

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To: DJ MacWoW; Alamo-Girl; logos

Alamo-Girl is one of my favorites, logos is too but is also a good friend.
Funny story that logos told me, I didn’t remember the thread but logos does. The thread was titled something like “Who is your favorite Freeper?” Alamo-Girl came in first, logos came in second. He still remembers that.


81 posted on 09/23/2010 8:29:57 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

Thank you oh so very much, dear Jean S!


82 posted on 09/23/2010 8:38:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jean S
The thread was titled something like “Who is your favorite Freeper?”

I've only posted on one of those threads. I was always afraid I would forget someone or my list would get too long. lol

83 posted on 09/23/2010 8:40:57 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Jean S

I remember that thread. The results surprised me because I mostly did support work and there are so many brilliant correspondents on Free Republic who deserved recognition.


84 posted on 09/23/2010 8:42:38 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Lazamataz
Pretty cool though. I wonder what the results would be if someone posted a similar thread today.

Laz would probably win :-)

85 posted on 09/23/2010 8:46:39 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Eagle Eye

“Yeah, tens of thousands are marched into US abortion clinics and treated the same way Auschwitz internees were”

Tens of thousands?

Try millions. 1 million a year in America.

What do you think happens to the children? Do you think they get a choice? Or do they not count as people?


86 posted on 09/23/2010 8:47:01 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("Henceforth I will call nothing else fair unless it be her gift to me")
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To: BenKenobi; Eagle Eye; Jean S; Apercu; DJ MacWoW; afraidfortherepublic; EternalVigilance; MHGinTN; ..
What do you think happens to the children? Do you think they get a choice? Or do they not count as people?

I think you just asked the pivotal question.

As a libertarian one doubts that Eagle Eye views any one of these infants as people, inspite of their abilities to react to and to attempt to flee the device designed to rip them limb from limb. As anyone who has ever viewed the film "silent Scream" knows, the infant senses the imminent harm and attempts to flee the D&C.

Daniel Pearl gets his head cut off and we say the people who did it are terrorists who practice terrorism.

PP sticks forceps into an infant's head and sucks his brains out, but because Eagle Eye, the "libertarian" Eagle Eye, that is, doesn't consider the infant a person, because of supposed terms of legal art and finesse it doesn't count as terrorism.

Eagle Eye's definition of "terrorism" is conveniently too narrow.

The Princeton dictionary (wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn) defines terrorism as: "•the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature"

The ideology which calculates the violence is just another legal euphemism called "Freedom of Choice."


88 posted on 09/23/2010 9:58:45 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Intelligent Design is to evolution what the Swift Boat Vets were to the Kerry campaign)
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To: Agamemnon; Eagle Eye

Abortion is the profitable, legal killing of human life.


89 posted on 09/23/2010 10:01:39 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Eagle Eye; BenKenobi

Yes, I’ve been reading the thread and it really strikes me the same as it did BenKenobi. I understand and respect your commitment to precise definitions, but consider the mapping of roles here. The equivalence is not between the victims of Auschwitz and the mothers who enter abortion clinics, but between the victims of Auschwitz and the unborn victims of the abortion doctors. They are indeed “marched into” the abortion clinics as completely helpless victims, not by SS in gleaming helmets, but by a motley crew of actors who are the moral inferiors of the SS, i.e., the I-don’t-want-to-be-a-daddy-so-kill-the-baby boyfriends, the its-a-subhuman-so-I-can-kill-it mothers, the self-appointed women-must-be-free-to-choose-so-kill-the-baby escorts, the I-can’t-take-care-of-you-both-so-kill-the-baby parents, and on and on. Death at Auschwitz was arguably more dignified. At least there was a real war, driven by competing visions of some grand utopia. But modern abortionists kill for mere money, and the supporting cast kills for mere inconvenience.

As to a proper definition of terrorism, you are betting the farm on a technical difference while overlooking an essential similarity. From the perspective of the victim, there is no meaningful difference between death by a politically motivated terrorist act and death by murder in the womb. As shown in the film “Silent Scream,” and as supported by a larger body of modern research, a child living comfortably in mommy’s womb experiences pain, terror, and death in a place that had been safe for them.

As for the element of coercion, I will grant you your technical difference, in that the typical coercive objective of a bombing or a YouTube beheading is to use fear to condition the survivors for some political effect. However, even in that difference there is still a strong and legitimate thread of similarity, in that we who are the survivors of abortion are indeed being conditioned by observation to devalue life, which effect is essential to the Nietzschean political paradigm that might makes right, the vile core of leftist ideology.

And it is fair to say that those among us with a more tender conscience may well experience a coercive fear as a byproduct of this conditioning, depending on our individual vulnerability. It is reasonable to fear a government that can declare by fiat that a particular group of humans is subhuman and therefore expendable without due process. Is that not the lodestar of the keepers of Auschwitz? And is that not perhaps the real reason all these good folk contending with you are so incensed with your position? To any sensitive, intuitive mind, the essential similarity totally eclipses the technical difference between murder by terrorism and murder by abortion, and it would help the conversation to recognize the genuine difficulty in making that separation without falling into the trap of unnecessarily personal critiquery.


90 posted on 09/23/2010 10:31:58 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Agamemnon
The ideology which calculates the violence is just another legal euphemism called "Freedom of Choice."

Indeed. Thank you for your essay-post, dear Agamemnon!
91 posted on 09/24/2010 8:37:33 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Eagle Eye

How much of the unborn infant’s alive body do you think the mother made in her womb? How much pain and misery is too much to be tolerable for your calculus? What value has the human soul to your calculus? Do you even believe these alive unborn children are yet fellow human beings? ... I suspect you enjoy being disgusting on a conservative forum.


92 posted on 09/24/2010 9:11:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
I must say, it looks as though Eagle Bully has gotten his wings clipped.

Libertarians are merely users of conservatism, not believers in conservatism.

FReegards!


93 posted on 09/24/2010 7:18:11 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Intelligent Design is to evolution what the Swift Boat Vets were to the Kerry campaign)
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To: topher
Pinged from Terri Dailies


94 posted on 09/26/2010 10:59:36 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: topher

While I’ve always supported the Tea Party, this makes me want to travel the 50 miles their demonstrations are from me, to join them.


95 posted on 09/26/2010 7:21:52 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: wagglebee

Over 50 million innocent unborn babies, killed by abortion since Roe.


96 posted on 09/26/2010 7:25:29 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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Pinged from Terri Dailies


97 posted on 10/03/2010 11:28:09 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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