Posted on 09/25/2010 2:24:02 PM PDT by Niuhuru
patriot08
Since May 28, 2008
Carley
Since Jun 5, 2008
Sort of like Monica Lewinsky and Mary Caitrin Mahoney.
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I believe the Kennedy’s either killed her or had her killed to prevent her from going public with the affairs she had with both Robert and John.
Bumping off an actress? This would have been nothing to them.
I’ve read many books and articles on MM, and almost all of them relate this same account of her death:
Donald Wolfe reports that Eunice (Marilyn’s housekeeper) and son-in-law Norman Jeffries were at Marilyn’s house during the night of her death. The two had conflicting stories concerning the events that took place that evening. Jeffries claimed that between 9:30 and 10.00 p.m., Robert Kennedy and two unknown men came to Marilyn’s door and ordered them to leave the house. According to Jeffries, they went to a neighbor’s home and waited until the men left around 10:30 p.m. When they returned home, Jeffries stated that he saw Marilyn laying face down, naked in her bed and holding what appeared to be a phone.
Jeffries said that Marilyn looked as if she were dead. Eunice allegedly called for an ambulance and then called Dr. Greenson. Wolfe states that Jeffries saw Lawford and Pat Newcomb arrive at the house. They were in a state of shock and hysterical. According to Summers, a former ambulance driver named Ken Hunter told an investigator for the DA that he arrived at Marilyn’s home “in the early morning hours” following the discovery of her body. The ambulance company chief also told the investigator that Marilyn was in fact in a coma when the ambulance arrived, due to an overdose of sleeping pills. He claimed that she was taken to Santa Monica Hospital, where she passed away. Summers suggests that Marilyn’s body was returned to her home in order to facilitate the ongoing cover-up.
Another witness account supported Jeffries’ story, but it was never included in the records of the investigation into Marilyn’s death. Elizabeth Pollard, a neighbor of Marilyn’s, told police that she saw Robert Kennedy with two unidentified men approach Marilyn’s house at about 6 or 7 p.m. One of the unidentified men was carrying a black medical case.
According to Wolfe, Pollard’s story was discredited by police and omitted from the investigation because they claimed her story was an “aberration.” If it was an aberration, it was one seen by several people because Pollard was not alone that day. Summers states that she was playing a card game with several people when they all recognized Kennedy driving up to Marilyn’s house. The identity of the other witnesses remains unclear.
Marilyn’s death was ruled a ‘probable suicide’.
The problem with this theory is that too many forensic facts are at odds with it. Quite a number of forensic experts have discarded the suicide theory as inconsistent with the facts.
Another problem with the suicide theory is that she was in good spirits at the time of her death and had been making plans for future events and movies, and if numerous reports by intimates is correct, her remarriage to Joe DiMaggio.
Key forensic experts argued that there were no traces of Nembutal in her stomach or intestinal tract. Also, there should have been specific crystals and evidence of the yellow capsules in which Nembutal is packaged. Not only were there no capsule parts, there was no yellow dye in her stomach.
The idea of an injection of barbiturates was also implausible for two reasons: there were no needle marks found on her body after very close examination, plus an injection of such a high dosage of barbiturates would have caused immediate death, leaving clear bruising.
Several experts argue that one possible explanation that was consistent with physical evidence was that the drugs were administered in an enema, which would account for the “abnormal, anomalous discoloration of the colon” as reported in the autopsy.
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patriot08
Since May 28, 2008
Carley
Since Jun 5, 2008
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What is this supposed to mean??
“He was the only decent man she married.”
You do realize that it is documented that Joe DiMaggio was physically and mentally abusive to Marylin and that is why she left him.
Marylin is even quoted at the time stating, “Joe never beat me without a good reason.”
Sportswriter Stacy Edwards says: ‘The way I heard it, Joe let her have it. It was pretty bad. After he hit her, she told him she’d had enough and wanted out of the marriage.
I put Dimaggio in the same bucket as Sinatra and Ted Williams - sometimes flawed characters with a deep sense of loyalty and honor.
Sinatra dumped Mia Farrow over Rosemary’s Baby and Williams was tough to get close to, but deeply devoted to liflong friends and family, to the point where the latter was able to exploit him.
“I wonder why we are still fascinated with her after so many years?”
Because it follows a plot:
Famous and popular, handsome or pretty, young, rebellious or reckless, die by way of strange circumstances.
Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, JF Kennedy, Elvis, John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Anna Nicole Smith, Michael Jackson for example.
I don’t fascinate easily. Some themes continue, like doctors giving out drugs that make it possible for rich famous people to accidentally overdoes themselves.
I do NOT think Elvis, Hendrix, Joplin, Morrison, Smith or Jackson intended suicide. No opinion about Marilyn Monroe.
DiMaggio was not known for his warm personality.
It means you can call Carley a noob. ;)
In 1972, actress Veronica Hamel and her husband became the new owners of Marilyn’s Brentwood home. They hired a contractor to replace the roof and remodel the house, and the contractor discovered a sophisticated eavesdropping and telephone tapping system that covered every room in the house. The components were not commercially available in 1962, but were in the words of a retired Justice Department official, “standard FBI issue.” This discovery lent further support to claims of conspiracy theorists that Marilyn had been under surveillance by the Kennedys and the Mafia. The new owners spent $100,000 to remove the bugging devices from the house.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000054/bio
Hitting is never excusable and is indecent.
A gentle correction, if I may. Dorothy was the first black woman to be nominated for the Oscar for Best Actress, not for an Academy Award period. Dorothy was nominated for 'Carmen Jones,' released in 1955.
However, the great Hattie McDaniel was the first black person of either sex to WIN an Academy Award -- Best Supporting Actress for her classic role as Mammy in 'Gone With The Wind' (1939).
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For those interested in MM’s death:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyCkSTsaO_M&feature=related
This states the case for murder.
Marilyn made only 30 films in her lifetime, but her legendary status and mysticism will remain with film history forever.
Trivia
At 168, Marilyn’s IQ was significantly higher than John F. Kennedy’s 129. (A score of 100 is considered average and 150 to be highly gifted).
There are over 600 books written about her.
Voted ‘Sexiest Woman of the Century’ by People Magazine. [1999]
Was 1947’s Miss California Artichoke Queen.
Ranked #8 in Empire (UK) magazine’s “The Top 100 Movie Stars of All Time” list. [October 1997]
Voted Empire’s (UK) “sexiest female movie star of all time” in 1995.
Playboy “Sweetheart” of the Month, December 1953.
When she died in 1962 at age 36, she left an estate valued at $1.6 million. In her will, Monroe bequeathed 75% of that estate to Lee Strasberg, her acting coach, and 25% to Dr. Marianne Kris, her psychoanalyst. A trust fund provided her mother, Gladys Baker Eley, with $5,000 a year. When Dr. Kris died in 1980, she passed her 25% on to the Anna Freud Centre, a children’s psychiatric institute in London. Since Strasberg’s death in 1982, his 75% has been administered by his widow, Anna, and her lawyer, Irving Seidman.
The licensing of Marilyn’s name and likeness, handled world-wide by Curtis Management Group, reportedly nets the Monroe estate about $2 million a year.
Was named the Number One Sex Star of the 20th Century by Playboy magazine in 1999.
Started using the name Marilyn Monroe in 1946, but did not legally change it until 1956.
Appeared on the first cover of Playboy in 1953.
Interred at Westwood Memorial Park, Los Angeles, California, USA, in the Corridor of Memories, crypt #24.
Hundreds of items of memorabilia auctioned off in late October, 1999 by Christie’s, with her infamous ‘JFK’ birthday-gown fetching over $1 million.
Childhood photos show she was born blonde, but her hair turned “mousy” as she grew older.
Chosen by Empire magazine as one of the 100 Sexiest Stars in film history (#2). [1995]
Hugh M. Hefner owns the burial vault next to hers.
Died with the phone in her hand.
Ex-husband Joe DiMaggio put fresh roses at her memorial site for years after her death.
When putting her imprints at Grauman’s she joked that Jane Russell was best known for her large front-side and she was known for her wiggly walk, so Jane could lean over, and she could sit in it. It was only a joke, but she dotted the “I” in her name with a rhinestone, which was stolen within days.
Her first modeling job paid only five dollars.
Frequently used Nivea moisturizer.
During the filming of Niagara (1953), she was still under contract as a stock actor, thus, she received less salary than her make-up man. This was also the only film in which her character died. The film was reworked to highlight her after Anne Bancroft withdrew.
Often carried around the book, “The Biography of Abraham Lincoln.”
Was an outstanding player on the Hollygrove Orphanage softball team.
Because the bathing suit she wore in the movie Love Nest (1951) was so risque (for the time period) and caused such a commotion on the set, director Joseph M. Newman had to make it a closed set when she was filming.
Fearing blemishes, she washed her face fifteen times a day.
She was suggested as a possible wife for Prince Rainier of Monaco. But he picked actress, Grace Kelly, to be his wife.
Thought the right side of her face was her “best” side.
Suffered from endometriosis, a condition in which tissues of the uterus lining (endometrium) leave the uterus, attach themselves to other areas of the body, and grow, causing pain, irregular bleeding, and, in severe cases, infertility.
Divorced first husband, James Dougherty, in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Divorced last husband, Arthur Miller, in Juarez, Mexico.
Wore glasses.
On Thursday, February 23rd, 1956, she obtained order from the City Court of the State of New York to legally change her name from Norma Jeane Mortenson to Marilyn Monroe.
Married Arthur Miller twice: the 1st time in a civil ceremony, then in a Jewish (to which she had converted) ceremony 2 days later.
Won an interlocutory decree from Joe DiMaggio on 27 October 1954, but, under California law, the divorce was not finalized until exactly 1 year later.
Offered to convert to Catholism in order to marry Joe DiMaggio in a Church ceremony, but she was turned down because she was divorced. Subsequently, when the divorced DiMaggio married Marilyn in a civil ceremony at San Francisco City Hall, he was automatically excommunicated by the Church; this edict was struck down by Pope John XXIII’s Ecumenical Council (Vatican II) in 1962.
The first stamp released in the USPS’s Legends of Hollywood series, issued on Friday, June 1st, 1995.
Went to Van Nuys High School (Los Angeles) in the early 1940s but never graduated.
Elton John and Bernie Taupin wrote a tribute to her entitled “Candle in the Wind”. In 1997 it was re-recorded with updated lyrics in memory of Princess Diana.
Her behavior on the unfinished Something’s Got to Give (1962) dimmed her reputation in the industry, but she was still big box office at the time of her death. What a Way to Go! (1964) and The Stripper (1963) were being developed for her.
When told she was not the star in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953) Marilyn was quoted “Well whatever I am, I’m still the blonde.”
The famous nude photo of her by Tom Kelley originally appeared as anonymous on a calendar entitled “Miss Golden Dreams.” In 1952, a blackmailer threatened to identify the model as Marilyn, but she shrewdly thwarted the scheme by announcing the fact herself. Hugh M. Hefner then bought the rights to use the photo for $500. She became “The Sweetheart of the Month” in the first issue of Hefner’s magazine, Playboy. Neither Kelley or Monroe ever saw a dime of the millions the calendar made for its publisher.
Formed her own production company, Marilyn Monroe Productions, with Milton H. Greene, on Saturday, December 31st, 1955.
Appears on sleeve of The Beatles’ “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” album.
Batman writer/artist Bob Kane used Marilyn’s likeness as a reference when he drew Vicki Vale.
She is mentioned in the song “Lady Nina” by rock band Marillion.
Her USO Entertainer Identification Card listed her name as “Norma Jean DiMaggio”.
She was “discovered” by press photographers during a WWII photo shoot at the Radioplane plant in California owned by actor Reginald Denny. She was one of the plant’s employees. She left her job and signed with Emmeline Snively’s modeling agency.
Was referenced in the dialogue of La Dolce Vita (1960), in the context of dieting.
Measurements: 37C-24-35 (definitive measurements for the majority of her career) / (Source: Celebrity Sleuth magazine)
The first Playboy magazine cover, featuring her, is pictured on one of six stamps issued in a souvenir sheet, issued by Grenada & the Grenadines on 1 December 2003 to celebrate Playboy’s 50th anniversary.
When she wasn’t working she preferred wearing nothing but a bathrobe.
Def Leppard’s 1983 #1 hit single “Photograph” from their Pyromania album was written about her.
“Candle in the Wind”, the Elton John song written about her, was lyrically changed to fit Princess Diana upon her death. Coincidentally, both legends died at age 36.
Named 2nd Greatest Movie Star of all time by Premier Magazine, behind #1 Cary Grant and after #3 Tom Cruise.
The punk band ‘The Misfits’ got their name from her last movie, The Misfits (1961).
The punk band ‘The Misfits’ recorded a song called “Who Killed Marilyn?” inspired by lead singer Glenn Danzig’s belief that she had been murdered.
Featured on a 1.11 euro postage stamp issued by French Post Office on Saturday, November 8th, 2003.
On May 19, 1962 she performed for president John F. Kennedy at his 45th birthday tribute in his honor at Madison Square Garden. She sang “Happy Birthday”.
Discovering her dress was torn at the 1950 Academy Awards, she burst into tears.
Was named #6 Actress on The American Film Institute’s 50 Greatest Screen Legends.
Is one of the many movie stars mentioned in Madonna’s song “Vogue”.
The dress Marilyn wore to serenade John F. Kennedy at his birthday celebration was so tight she had to be sewn into it.
In 1999, a make-up kit that she had owned sold for $266,500.
Died at 12305 Fifth Helena Drive in Brentwood, California.
One of the first Los Angeles natives to become a major movie star.
She took acting lessons from Michael Chekhov.
Sergei Parajanov made collages of Monroe, Charles Chaplin, Mona Lisa, and other famous personages and many were featured in Mikhail Vartanov’s Parajanov: The Last Spring (1992).
A 1982 review into the original inquest of Marilyn’s death, conducted on its 20-year anniversary, concluded that the actress committed suicide or accidentally overdosed, and was not murdered—rumors that were fueled by the sloppy handling of evidence, the delay in securing the scene and the disappearance of tissue samples.
The ADR stage at Twentieth Century Fox is named after her.
Was good friends with Dorothy Dandridge and Ava Gardner when they were all young, struggling actresses in Hollywood.
Her real father was Charles Stanley Gifford. From his side, she was descended from the founder of Rhode Island, Roger Williams, and religious leader Anne Marbury-Hutchinson, from whom she is related to Lucretia Rudolph (wife of President James A. Garfield), Grover Cleveland, William Howard Taft, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, George Bush, and George W. Bush.
In How to Marry a Millionaire (1953), her character Pola is reading a book called “Murder By Strangulation” on the plane. Coincidentally, this is how her character was murdered in Niagara (1953).
Don’t Bother to Knock (1952) (her 18th film) was an attempt to prove to critics that she could act.
Her lifelong bouts with depression and self-destruction took their toll during filming The Seven Year Itch (1955).
She frequently muffed scenes and forgot her lines, leading to sometimes as many as 40 takes of a scene before a satisfactory result was produced.
Her constant tardiness and behavioral problems made the budget of the film swell to $1.8 million, a high price for the time. The film still managed to make a nice profit.
The classic shot of her dress blowing up around her legs as she stands over a subway grating in this film was originally shot on Manhattan’s Lexington Avenue at 52nd St., On Wednesday, September 15th, 1954, at 1:00 a.m. Five thousand onlookers whistled and cheered through take after take as Marilyn repeatedly missed her lines. This occurred in presence of an increasingly embarrassed and angry Joe DiMaggio (her husband at the time; the nine-month-old marriage officially ended during the shooting of this film). The original footage shot on that night in New York never made it to the screen; the noise of the crowd had made it unusable. Director Billy Wilder reshot the scene on the 20th Century-Fox lot, on a set replicating Lexington Avenue, and got a more satisfactory result.
However, it took another 40 takes for Marilyn to achieve the famous scene. Amazingly, her very narrow spike heels don’t get stuck or break in the subway grating, although this was a universal problem at the time for the countless women wearing that very popular style heel in New York City in that era. An important promotional campaign was released for this mainstream motion picture, including a 52-foot-high cutout of Marilyn (from the blowing dress scene) erected in front of Loews State Theater, in New York City’s Times Square. The movie premiere was on Wednesday, June 1st, 1955, which was also her 29th birthday.
Was originally set to play Holly Golightly in Breakfast at Tiffany’s (1961), but Audrey Hepburn played the role instead.
What a Way to Go! (1964) initially intended as a vehicle for her, Shirley MacLaine played Louisa May Foster instead. Producer Arthur P. Jacobs was her publicist and J. Lee Thompson was on her list of approved directors.
She resided at the Hollywood Rossevelt while she was breaking into the acting business.
Her “Happy Birthday Mr. President” dress sold for $1,267,500.00, a world record for the most expensive piece of clothing ever sold, and is in the Guinness Book of World Records.
She left Hollywood to pursue serious acting by studying under Lee Strasberg at his Actors’ Studio in New York City.
Her classic shape, according to her dressmaker, is actually measured at 37-23-36.
In 1946, she signed her first studio contract with 20th Century Fox and dyed her hair.
Spent most of her childhood in foster homes and orphanages because her mother was committed to a mental institution. At 16, when a family friend could no longer take care of her, she got married to avoid returning to the orphanage.
When she married Joe DiMaggio, the couple moved into a home at 508 N. Palm Drive in Beverly Hills next door to Jean Harlow’s last home.
Tried 9 different shades of blond hair color before settling on platinum.
Her personal library contained over 400 books on topics ranging from art to history, psychology, philosophy, literature, religion, poetry, and gardening. Many of the volumes, auctioned in 1999, bore her pencil notations in the margins.
Nearly 11 years after her death, she appeared on the cover of the Tuesday, July 17th, 1973 edition of “Time Magazine” in a full-color portrait taken by Bert Stern, from the last photographic sitting before her death. The cover-story heralds the publication of “Marilyn,” the biography of her by Norman Mailer.
On the cover, her image dwarfs a black & white photo of Mailer. Mailer reportedly was displeased that “Time” chose to play up Monroe and diminish him, visually on the cover. The publication of the coffee table biography, which contained many photographs including several by Stern, was a major event of that publishing season. The book retailed for $19.95, which is approximately $100 in 2008 money, when factored for inflation.
“Time Magazine” reported in 1973 that Los Angeles County coroner Thomas Noguchi, the doctor who performed Monroe’s autopsy, said that contrary to rumors, Monroe’s stomach was never pumped after her death. The level of Nembutal in her bloodstream was 4.5 milligrams per 100, which is the equivalent of 40 or 50 capsules indicating suicide.
In 1961, after her divorce from Arthur Miller, she purchased a 2900 square foot hacienda style house in Brentwood, for $77,500.
Champagne was her drink of choice and Dom Perignon was her particular favorite.
Her last film. Something’s Got to Give (1962), was finally released in 2003. In the swimming pool scene, Marilyn reveals much more to the camera than she did in her then controversial calendar photo from the early ‘50s.
Although she was perhaps the most famous actress of the 1950-s, she never made more than $100,000 per picture upfront. Actresses such as Elizabeth Taylor and Barbara Stanwyck were earning significantly more.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000054/bio
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Gentlemen do not hit their wives.
I was surprised to read that he beat her and Googled it to find proof it didn’t happen, but it appears it did.
in her own words, “Joe never beat me without a good reason.”
And George Reeves (Superman).
“And George Reeves (Superman).”
Of course.
Another element of the “fascination” is where in death people discover how truly talented they were in life.
Along with many friends, I really enjoy Stevie Ray Vaughan, who I had barely heard of until he died. (Similar to Buddy Holly)
I excluded these clearly accidental deaths from my earlier list, because there was no mystique about possible suicide.
You can if you like.
As for us, we admire people with principles and character. Joe had both and unfortunately M.M. determined that Hollowieird was more important to pursue. People like Joe DiMaggio are rare and conservative people like Joe are often viewed as a “ass”. You might as well view me as an “ass” too.
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