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CA: A New Breed of Home Marijuana Grower
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 2, 2010 | Deborah Netburn

Posted on 10/02/2010 12:38:33 PM PDT by Wolfie

A New Breed of Home Marijuana Grower

California -- Joanne Clarke, a legal secretary in her late 50s, leads the way down a pale green hallway in her modest Costa Mesa home, past a small guest room on the right and a blue tiled bathroom on the left. At the end of the hall, she opens a door, pushes aside a thick black curtain and ducks inside.

"Isn't this wild?" she says, gesturing to the high-tech marijuana grow room she and her husband recently installed. "This used to be my daughter's bedroom."

Wild is one word for it. Bright is another. Unexpected, yet another. What had been a teenager's tropical-themed room is now a beaming, humming, indoor plant laboratory complete with silver reflective bubble wrap on the walls, blinding grow lights, ventilation ducts hanging from the ceiling and marijuana plants in various stages of development neatly labeled with names such as Platinum Kush, Purple Diesel and Blue Cheese.

"They are like our children," Clarke says, gazing proudly at the elegant fronds that look familiar and exotic all at once. "We talk to them."

Clarke's grow room is legal — in the state of California, anyone with a doctor's recommendation to use marijuana can grow it in limited quantities — yet it still feels clandestine. Although she's open about using pot (crushed and placed in capsules) to help manage the pain of rheumatoid arthritis, she and her husband haven't shown the room to any friends. "Ninety-five percent of the people I know are fine with it," she says, "but it's that 5% that I worry about. I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: death2america; deathofthewest; goodbyecivilization; marijuana; pot; prop19; societycollapses; wod
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1 posted on 10/02/2010 12:38:35 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

How would you like to have a pothead as your “legal secretary”. Yikes! She’s high all the time but her “arthritis” feels a lot better. LOL!


2 posted on 10/02/2010 12:49:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Help stamp out political correctness.)
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To: Wolfie

I think I’m coming down with a severe case of rheumatoid arthritis. I live in California and this situation pisses me off. These people are going around the law through loop holes in order to get freaking high all day long. Unless I missed it, they article didn’t state what these two pot growers do a living. If the husband spends hours in the room cultivating his crops, what time does he have to work and make a living. They are probably both on disability and getting a check from the state to do nothing but smoke pot.
In my opinion, something needs to be done about law breakers like these. Like I said, this is just my opinion, I’m sure there are people that have a different opinion than mine.


3 posted on 10/02/2010 12:49:52 PM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (I have the right to remain silent, but I lack the ability...........)
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To: Wolfie

Just think of the carbon imprint that room is giving off...


4 posted on 10/02/2010 12:54:30 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Nitehawk0325

“In my opinion, something needs to be done about law breakers like these.’

She’s a legal secretary.

What they are doing is legal in CA. Are you upset that they are breaking federal laws?


5 posted on 10/02/2010 12:57:42 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Wolfie

Here come the Nanny State Sycophants banging the drum for the War on Drugs.


6 posted on 10/02/2010 12:58:16 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Nitehawk0325

“In my opinion, something needs to be done about law breakers like these.”

Oh, I see, you are opposed to State’s Rights and want the Federal Government to throw these people in prison?


7 posted on 10/02/2010 1:00:25 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Wolfie

What makes these people think that they have the right to control their own lives, off with their heads!!


8 posted on 10/02/2010 1:01:07 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

A lot of the founding fathers of our country smoked sweet hemp.


9 posted on 10/02/2010 1:01:18 PM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Wolfie
Joanne Clarke, a legal secretary in her late 50s, leads the way down a pale green hallway in her modest Costa Mesa home

Hey, the Clarke's got lots of pot

Trick or Treat....../s

10 posted on 10/02/2010 1:02:41 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: stockpirate

Yeah, and Columbus’ sails on his ship, the U.S. Constitution, Jesus’ sandals. I’ve heard all that. However, I’m a Cheech and Chong fan too! “DAVE’S NOT HERE!!”


11 posted on 10/02/2010 1:03:14 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Help stamp out political correctness.)
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To: Nitehawk0325

Hey, if you want to piss in everybody’s Wheaties, just grow a bunch of male plants.

The main object of growth is Sinsemilla, unpollinated female plants. Imagine the horror when people look in their garden and find out their little girls are in a family way. ;-)


12 posted on 10/02/2010 1:03:54 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Wolfie
Dave's not here man.

There are 10,000 DUIs everyday. And yet some people seem to be just fixated on pot. If someone wants to stay drunk all day they can I guess. No problem. How many people take Vicadin and Oxycontin 24 hours a day? But anyone smoking pot is a 'pothead' and ‘high 24 hours a day’ in some opinions.

If these same people had a wet bar with 95 bottles of booze, no one would think twice about it.

13 posted on 10/02/2010 1:05:23 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Wolfie
Apparently the California drug addicts are about to score a great victory. The rest of us will face increased highway injury,death and higher taxes to pay for the resulting mess, but that's ok, the pot heads are happy.

These people currently growing the drug probably have fantasies of making money. Once again the politicians will see that their favorites will get the franchises-(in return for "contributions")- and folks like those set forth in the article will be "hung out to dry." If any such people do start to make real money they will be cut off at the knees by the politicians and their favorites.

14 posted on 10/02/2010 1:05:59 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Several of the founder's write in their papers about smoking hemp, it was the major crop along with to tobacco in the colonies.
15 posted on 10/02/2010 1:07:18 PM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“How would you like to have a pothead as your “legal secretary””

Probably wouldn’t be as bad as a legal secretary working for a coke-head lawyer.


16 posted on 10/02/2010 1:07:49 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
If you have ever had arthritis you would know that it can be so painful as to prevent movement. It hurts like he**. I have it in only one thumb but it is quite painful and if I had it in all my fingers I would certainly do anything I could to ease the pain and restore movement. Don't be so frickin' quick to judge. From what I understand, from other people, you don't have to get high to ease, or even kill, the pain with MJ.

My neighbor has a medical license for MJ and grows his in the open. He has a back disability from his time in the service and it kills the pain and he never exhibits evidence of being "high".

People in chronic pain will try anything to ease it, hopefully you will never be in that condition but if you are don't be surprised if you try puffing on a joint, or taking it internally, in order to kill the pain for a while.

17 posted on 10/02/2010 1:12:45 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Wolfie
"They are like our children," Clarke says, gazing proudly at the elegant fronds that look familiar and exotic all at once. "We talk to them."

And sometimes, you know, like, they, like, talk back. It's like really wild, you know.

18 posted on 10/02/2010 1:13:50 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: calex59

I’ve got arthritis but I’m also tough enough to deal with it. Getting old isn’t for sissies. Besides, I’ve got a job so I can’t be out there walking around high all the time.


19 posted on 10/02/2010 1:15:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Help stamp out political correctness.)
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To: Tribune7

Now that is funny right there. I don’t care who you are.


20 posted on 10/02/2010 1:16:10 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Nitehawk0325
In my opinion, something needs to be done about law breakers like these.

Maybe you should move to a state where they still put thousands of people in locked cages for this...

Then you can pay to jail, house, and feed them...

21 posted on 10/02/2010 1:16:29 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“leads the way down a pale green hallway”

Pale green now that’s a crime. She will have a hard time selling that heap.


22 posted on 10/02/2010 1:17:50 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Apparently the California drug addicts are about to score a great victory. The rest of us will face increased highway injury,death and higher taxes to pay for the resulting mess, but that's ok, the pot heads are happy.

Don't be an idiot. The people who want to smoke pot already smoke it. There will be no, or at least very little, increase in the people who smoke it, and the laws against driving with it will still be in effect. The fact is Thousands, if not millions, of people drive every day all across America while under the influence of MJ, not to mention Alcohol. Legalizing MJ will actually reduce crime, at least in CA. Take the money out of it and the crime will go away. The only danger is if the government taxes it too much then the illegal growers will still be making money off of it.

It is amazing the amount of people who failed to learn the lesson of prohibition. People drank more during prohibition than they did before or after. Drugs, all types of them, were legal in this country at one time. There were no more addicts per hundred thousand then than there are now and there were no crime gangs killing off people in order to protect their interest in the drug trade.

Want to know why parts of Arizona are off limits to Americans? It isn't because of illegal aliens per se, but due to drug dealers. Illegals are bad enough without having gangs mixed into the picture. Gangs without money are impotent. Drugs give them to the money to arm themselves and to recruit new members. MJ is part of that BS culture. Legalize it and you take part of the money away from them.

23 posted on 10/02/2010 1:25:12 PM PDT by calex59
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To: stockpirate
"Several of the founder's write in their papers about smoking hemp"

Long-haired hippie phreaks.

24 posted on 10/02/2010 1:30:15 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: 240B

“If these same people had a wet bar with 95 bottles of booze, no one would think twice about it.”

So, your argument is that because one intoxicating substance that can ruin lives is legal, all intoxicating substances that can ruin lives should be legal. That about it?


25 posted on 10/02/2010 1:31:46 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Nitehawk0325
In my opinion, something needs to be done about law breakers like these. Like I said, this is just my opinion, I’m sure there are people that have a different opinion than mine.

The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog is."

G. K. Chesterton

26 posted on 10/02/2010 1:31:58 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Wolfie

Booze is legal. How many people do you PERSONALLY know that start slamming down drinks at 9AM and keep it up all day?

I’m sick and tired of the gangs that fund themselves through drug sales. Yes, I realize that there are other drugs besides pot, but at least legalizing it will cut into their cash stream.

I’m also sick and tired of Mexican drug cartels setting up pot plantations on public and private property - with trigger happy attendants.

I’m also sick and tired of funding the Prison Guard Union so that these “dangerous criminals” can be incarcerated.

I’m also sick and tired of the para-military police state that the W.O.D. has created along with erosion of 4th amendment rights. Do a search on “civil asset forfeiture” and see how the system is being abused.

The W.O.D. has been going on for, what 50 years? Anybody seen any reduction in drug use yet? All I’ve seen is an increase in crime and government.


27 posted on 10/02/2010 1:33:58 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles
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To: Wolfie

Prohibitions are always doomed to failure. The war on pot has been as effective as the war on poverty or the war on alcohol. These wars simply result in less freedoms and great violations of our rights. We all own our own bodies. What we put into them is our own business.

The reasons pot is still illegal has more t with protecting Dupont’s fiber business than the public’s health.


28 posted on 10/02/2010 1:34:29 PM PDT by appeal2 (Don't steal, the government hates competition.)
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To: billorites

And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...


29 posted on 10/02/2010 1:34:57 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Wolfie

I hope everyone purchases one of these grow houses. Let us know how you feel after you had to gut that house to get rid of the mold and rot.


30 posted on 10/02/2010 1:37:12 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: stockpirate

“Several of the founder’s write in their papers about smoking hemp, it was the major crop along with to tobacco in the colonies.”

The word “founder’s” can only be a contraction of “founder is” or a possessive that refers to something that belongs to or pertains to a founder. Apstrophes are never, never, never used to form plurals, even if the U.S. Government Style Manual says they can be, the illiterate b*stards.

That said, do you have any citations from the writings of Founding Fathers to demonstrate the truth of your claim?

It should be noted that hemp was used to make rope and fabrics. It is a misconception that demand for hemp for smoking made it a major crop.


31 posted on 10/02/2010 1:38:26 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: 240B

“And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply ...”

I hate that song with the fire of a thousand suns.


32 posted on 10/02/2010 1:39:00 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
So, your argument is that because one intoxicating substance that can ruin lives is legal, all intoxicating substances that can ruin lives should be legal. That about it?

Carrying your point to it's logical conclusion then, Fedzilla should take anything that "can ruin lives" under its benevolent control ... like what kind of light bulb you can use ... how many gallons of water your toilet can flush ... what you can eat ... where you live ... brilliant plan.

See post #26

33 posted on 10/02/2010 1:39:47 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: calex59
I've heard all the sophistical arguments from the pot heads: i.e. motherhood, pain, the rights of man, crime control etc. Paradise is coming, the lamb will lie down with the lion, Nonsense! Vice creates more vice and its offspring creates more.

Just because one cannot totally stop the occurrence of a particular crime does not mean we should altogether stop trying to control that crime. At a minimum California highway injuries and deaths will increase together with our taxes to pay for the medical care of the victims of drug abuse. Overall drug consumption due to the climate of acceptance.

34 posted on 10/02/2010 1:43:09 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: appeal2

“Prohibitions are always doomed to failure.”

How about our prohibition on murder?

Nobody thinks that the law will prevent all murders, and the fact that they still occur does not mean that the law is a failure. The law has, as I see it, three objectives:

1. To go on record with society’s disapproval of murder.
2. To deter as many murders as possible.
3. To establish the grounds for punishing murderers.

Neither are laws against pot designed to prevent all pot smoking. Further, there does seem to be less pot smoking than there was in the 1970s. I couldn’t walk across campus in the spring without smelling it multiple times. Last time I visited my alma mater, I didn’t smell it at all.

I would guess that the huge jump in prices had something to do with this, too.


35 posted on 10/02/2010 1:46:15 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
Huh, what an odd reaction. Canvas, the word canvas, comes from cannabis. Two stand left laid tared hemp cord, that is rope or string. Maryjauhana built the U.S. Navy.

Yes, Hemp was used for paper, fabric, rope, just about everything.

And that is exactly why it is illegal. Because people can easily grow there own, the government doesn't like that. This is similar to the government making having Gold illegal. Anything the government cannot directly control, they outlaw it.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with 'protecting' society. In fact, it is quite the opposite. It is all about enslaving society and keeping the little people 'under control'. That is what it has alway been about.

36 posted on 10/02/2010 1:50:45 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: tx_eggman

“Carrying your point to it’s logical conclusion”

You didn’t carry the point to its logical conclusion; you carried it to a ludicrous extreme. Your “logic” would allow one to argue against murder laws on the grounds that fedzilla would go on to prohibit all physical movement.

I often say that there is no idea so good that it doesn’t become a bad idea when taken to extremes. However, all good ideas are not taken to extremes. The government has not gone on from murder laws to ban all physical movement, and there is no reason to think that you and I would take pot laws to the extremes you name.

The leftards, of course, are trying to go to those extremes regardless of the state of pot laws, which would neither encourage nor discourage them in their drive toward tyranny.

It is worth noting that the argument you used here is one that the left used to topple rationality and take charge in this country.


37 posted on 10/02/2010 1:55:07 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Wolfie


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

38 posted on 10/02/2010 1:56:38 PM PDT by The Comedian ("Progressive" is a code word for "Pending nitrogen cycle contributor")
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To: 240B

“But anyone smoking pot is a ‘pothead’ and ‘high 24 hours a day’ in some opinions.”

The current hysteria about pot is the result of a massive re-education effort that was begun many years ago. Thanks to that great educator Horace Mann we have a Prussian style public education system that instills obedience and is short on logic. The elites don’t attend the same schools as the common people. We are a controlled society but the controls are breaking down and it’s making some people uncomfortable.


39 posted on 10/02/2010 2:00:56 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: stockpirate

They smoked industrial hemp, often called Cannabis Sativa, a variant so low in THC and high in CBD which blocks the marijuana effects, that one cannot get high from it.

Only Cannabis high in THC is suitable for Marijuana. The strain sometimes called Cannabis Indica is grown for pot production.

“Botanically, the genus Cannabis is composed of several variants. Although there has been a long-standing debate among taxonomists about how to classify these variants into species, applied plant breeders generally embrace a biochemical method to classify variants along utilitarian lines. Cannabis is the only plant genus that contains the unique class of molecular compounds called cannabinoids. Many cannabinoids have been identified, but two preponderate: THC, which is the psychoactive ingredient of Cannabis, and CBD, which is an antipsychoactive ingredient. One type of Cannabis is high in the psychoactive cannabinoid, THC, and low in the antipsychoactive cannabinoid, CBD. This type is popularly known as marijuana. Another type is high in CBD and low in THC. Variants of this type are called industrial hemp.”

http://www.naihc.org/hemp_information/content/hemp.mj.html


40 posted on 10/02/2010 2:01:14 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

“Apparently the California drug addicts are about to score a great victory. The rest of us will face increased highway injury,death and higher taxes to pay for the resulting mess, but that’s ok, the pot heads are happy.”

You’re a frustrated authoritarian aren’t you. Things are just flying out of control everywhere and you can’t get a handle on it. I understand how you feel.


41 posted on 10/02/2010 2:04:40 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: Wolfie

I’ve used therapeutic Wintergreen essential oil on arthritis, and it’s worked fine for me. Sure takes up a lot less room.


42 posted on 10/02/2010 2:07:38 PM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: 240B

You do know that hemp rope was replaced by manila rope for ships a long time ago, right?

“Manila hemp” is a type of fiber obtained from the leaves of the abacá. It is not actually hemp, but named so because hemp was long a major source of fiber, and other fibers were sometimes named after it. Sort of like the way today’s “vellum” is not really vellum at all.


43 posted on 10/02/2010 2:08:59 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: 240B

“What an odd reaction.”

De gustibus non disputandum est. I would say rather that your reaction to my statement of opinion regarding a song is rather odd.

“...the word canvas, comes from cannabis...tared hemp cord...Maryjauhana built the U.S. Navy.”

Wooden ships and iron men built the U.S. Navy, mister. Hemp played a minor role, and that not as an intoxicant.

“And that is exactly why it is illegal. Because people can easily grow there own”

Really? I notice George Washington didn’t outlaw it, though his administration did precipitate the Whiskey Rebellion.

By 1937, forty-six of the forty-eight states as well as the District of Columbia had laws against marijuana. No federal action was taken until the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937.

The reasons for this are well known, and have nothing to do with people growing hemp to make rope.


44 posted on 10/02/2010 2:08:59 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: jimpick
Pale green now that’s a crime. She will have a hard time selling that heap.

Can you buy house paints legally in Calif now, or have the "low VOC" police pretty much killed it off?

45 posted on 10/02/2010 2:12:15 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: dsc
Take a pill man. (or a joint) which ever you prefer.
I am not arguing with you. I respect you. I have absolutely no reason to dislike or insult you. We are just talking and frankly, I am enjoying it.
46 posted on 10/02/2010 2:16:41 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Thank you. I did not know that.

When the Chief said two strand left laid tarred hemp cord(and it was always called by it’s formal name. Don’t really know why?), I really thought it was hemp. Thanks, I will put that in the memory banks.


47 posted on 10/02/2010 2:22:54 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Wolfie

As part of the licensing, they should have to all post their addresses.


48 posted on 10/02/2010 2:24:08 PM PDT by Pavegunner72
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I wonder if it works for gout. Man, that gout is driving me crazy!


49 posted on 10/02/2010 2:30:55 PM PDT by Rio
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To: nascarnation

“Can you buy house paints legally in Calif now, or have the “low VOC” police pretty much killed it off?”

Sure you can just ask Jose to paint it.


50 posted on 10/02/2010 2:40:08 PM PDT by jimpick
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