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2011 Automotive Hot List: The Departed... (Discontinued car brand/marques)
Yahoo ^ | 10/2/10 | Road and Track staff

Posted on 10/02/2010 8:21:28 PM PDT by DemforBush

If there’s one constant in this world, it’s this: We live in a world of constant flux. In the automotive world, however, we’ve all grown accustomed to seeing the same group of manufacturers introduce new models each year. You know the names. But for the 2011 model year—thanks largely to the huge economic downturn that began in late 2008—four well-known American nameplates have gone the way of the Edsel, so to speak...

(Excerpt) Read more at autos.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: hummer; mercury; pontiac; saturn
Kind of an interesting story. Of the four discontinued brands, I'll miss Mercury the most (I come from a Ford family, what can I say?).
1 posted on 10/02/2010 8:21:32 PM PDT by DemforBush
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To: DemforBush

I’m still cheesed off that they discontinued the DeSoto.


2 posted on 10/02/2010 8:35:55 PM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: DemforBush

Among the pile of corporate corpses since Øbama was inaugurated:
B Dalton
Checker Motors
Circuit City
Continental Airlines
Hollywood Video (Blockbuster bankrupt)
KB Toys
Pioneer Chicken
Earl Scheib
Woolworths


3 posted on 10/02/2010 8:45:05 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: DemforBush

The Aztec...I’m confident to say that the guy who designed it and the guy who approved it for manufacture were both high on crack. It was damn ugly.


4 posted on 10/02/2010 8:48:17 PM PDT by max americana (Hoax and Chains, Dopeychangey)
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To: DemforBush

Don’t forget Buell motorcycles.


5 posted on 10/02/2010 8:52:36 PM PDT by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: TruthHound

Indeed, Checker:

http://www.checkertaxistand.com/checker_history/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_Motors_Corporation

And:

An Illustrated History Of Checker Motors
By Paul Niedermeyer on April 15, 2010
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/an-illustrated-history-of-checker-motors/


6 posted on 10/02/2010 8:53:04 PM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: max americana

Not only that but it had a nasty roll rate on tight turns. My son-in-law rolled his one night and we still have no idea how he avoided being killed.


7 posted on 10/02/2010 8:54:01 PM PDT by Vor Lady
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To: max americana

Have you seen the Nissan Puke, er Juke? It is like the baby son of the Aztec.


8 posted on 10/02/2010 8:54:54 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: DemforBush

I like Ford trucks. They finally got their electronics right in the 1990s when they started partnering with Mazda. The one thing Ford should come out and admit however is the design problem in the F-150 engine that kept blowing out one of the spary plugs due to the metal being too thin in the engine casing.

I never liked Mercury. They always looked like Ford but often with minor (and in my opinion, almost always uglier/worse) cosmetic changes you paid a lot more for. It never made sense to me to have essentially the same vehicles but just have a few trim differences, yet pay a lot more for one than the other.


9 posted on 10/02/2010 8:56:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: max americana

THe Pontiac Transport wasn’t much better (predecessor van). It looked better but really wasn’t that great of a vehicle either.


10 posted on 10/02/2010 8:57:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: DemforBush
3. Saturn

I had one. The first five years it lived up to its motto “a different kind of car company.” After that its time in the shop showed that it was still a GM. (Also those commercials showing things bouncing off the plastic door panels weren't shot when it was well below zero. At that temperature they just shatter when hit.)

11 posted on 10/02/2010 8:59:25 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Grblb blabt unt mipt speeb!! Oot piffoo blaboo...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It is (or WAS) called mid-line models. Oldsmobile was mid-line. I had a ‘98 Cutlass wich was a bit fancier than a Chevy Malibu, but not near as fancy as the Cadillac Catera. They do the same with imports (Scion > Toyota > Lexus).

I couldn’t stand Fords after the Firestone fiasco, but now I drive a Windstar and it’s a very nice, well-built car.


12 posted on 10/02/2010 9:02:39 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: Kirkwood

LOL, the Juke has some curves at least. The AZtec had no curves but linear edges. I would rather ride the bus than drive one.


13 posted on 10/02/2010 9:02:55 PM PDT by max americana (Hoax and Chains, Dopeychangey)
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To: Vor Lady

I still remembered my high school chum who went to the Pontiac dealership and wanted to see the GTO. The dealership guys HEAVILY pimped the Aztec like it was the car of the future. My buddy was “seriously, dude? You’re kidding right?”


14 posted on 10/02/2010 9:05:29 PM PDT by max americana (Hoax and Chains, Dopeychangey)
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To: TruthHound

I understand mid-line models.

I am saying I never liked the Mercury line because even though they claimed to be a step up from Ford, often the changes were minor (and to me made the vehicle look worse and less appealing) and they charged you more for a crappier looking vehicle than if you went with the top of the line Ford of that same vehicle.


15 posted on 10/02/2010 9:06:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: max americana
The Aztec...I’m confident to say that the guy who designed it and the guy who approved it for manufacture were both high on crack. It was damn ugly.

The Homermobile was better thought out.


16 posted on 10/02/2010 9:09:54 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: DemforBush

I’ll miss Pontiac; loved my Grand Prix.


17 posted on 10/02/2010 9:13:39 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: max americana

“The Aztec...I’m confident to say that the guy who designed it and the guy who approved it for manufacture were both high on crack. It was damn ugly.”

I suspect that the Aztec was not designed by any “guy” but was actually designed by a couple of lesbians. I just can’t think of any other explanation for for it.


18 posted on 10/02/2010 9:35:03 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Born Conservative

I will also miss Pontiac more than the rest. I never owned one until about 2 years ago when I bought a used Grand Prix. It’s the best car I have owned, but it’s also the newest non-minivan/station wagon I have owned, so it might not be a fair comparison.

I’m disappointed they didn’t bring back the Firebird/Trans Am to go with the new Camaro.


19 posted on 10/02/2010 9:42:36 PM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: TruthHound
Among the pile of corporate corpses since Øbama was inaugurated: ...

KB Toys, Checker Motors, and Circuit City were all bankrupt before the inauguration.

According to Wikipedia, Woolworth's has not been around since 1997 but Pioneer Chicken is still operating.

20 posted on 10/02/2010 10:02:45 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Gil4

It was a pity the new GTO looked Japanese. A lttle retro would have made all the difference.


21 posted on 10/02/2010 10:05:16 PM PDT by libertyhoundusnr
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To: libertyhoundusnr

It was almost as bad as the mid-70’s Thunderbird or the Mustang II. At least the Mustang was able to recover eventually. It makes you wonder what they were thinking. People might buy a car partly for the name if the car itself carries on the tradition associated with the name.

Ford had the Taurus X crossover before they came out with the new sedan. I guess it was supposed to fill the niche of the old station wagon, but it looked more like an SUV. I guarantee it would have sold more if it had a name that sounded like an SUV, because I’m sure people thought “I know what a Taurus is, and that’s not one.”

Can you imagine if the new Mustang had been released as an Escort instead, with the same pricing, nothing changed but the name? All you would hear is “It’s a nice looking car, but who wants to pay $30K for an Escort?”

Once a name means something to us, it’s difficult to change the meaning. Any re-used nameplate needs to be an update of the same theme or it will likely be rejected.


22 posted on 10/02/2010 10:43:37 PM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: DemforBush

My son still drives a loaded Grand Marquis he “inherited” from me. I figure it could go another few 100k miles.

Amazing road vehicle. I’ll miss them.


23 posted on 10/02/2010 11:00:15 PM PDT by MV=PY
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To: libertyhoundusnr

What is often unreported is the technologies and equipment which goes out the door. I’ll cut thru it and Hummer stuff went to China. Okay that’s fine because we owe them and they were top bidder. Do you know how many jillion$ went into designing these and the equip to build them?
Harken back to earlier days when Studebaker made great heavy trucks. They disappeared from the American landscape.
The only time you saw them en mass_ was parading with missles through the grand streets of China and n.korea.


24 posted on 10/02/2010 11:01:39 PM PDT by noodler (!)
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To: MV=PY

My dad had a Crown Vic and a Grand Marquis. Both were great cars.


25 posted on 10/02/2010 11:04:59 PM PDT by DemforBush (You might think that, *I* could not possibly comment.)
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To: Gil4
I, too, miss Pontiac. Still love my '98 Trans Am. I found this the other day, so there's still hope for the Firebird.

SCCA Officially Licensed 2010 KM Trans Am
26 posted on 10/03/2010 12:00:53 AM PDT by grateful
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To: Old Flat Toad

The Buell market-line had lots of potential.


27 posted on 10/03/2010 12:42:14 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: grateful

That Trans Am is pretty cool. And Grand Prix’s seem to last forever.


28 posted on 10/03/2010 12:54:11 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: Carl LaFong

I owned two De Soto’s and they were two of the best cars I ever owned


29 posted on 10/03/2010 4:03:43 AM PDT by Pardeeville Liberator
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To: DemforBush

I still wonder if the car companies have that “carry parts for ten years only” rule, any more.


30 posted on 10/03/2010 6:24:11 AM PDT by Prussianone
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To: DemforBush

Tis may be a small thing but the inaccuracy in this article is seen in article after article in reporting today. I don’t know if the “reporters” are just plain ignorant or they deliberately conjure up myths to embellish their stories. This oen comes straight out of GM pr.

“The original Hummer H1 (or Hum-Vee) was a celebrity of the Persian Gulf War. In 2002 came a smaller and (slightly) more manageable version, the Hummer H2.”

The Hummvee bears nothing more than a slight sheet metal resemblance to the hummer. They are 2 totally different vehicles and have absolutely no historical connection other than GM’s desire to capitalize on the performance of the Humvee.


31 posted on 10/03/2010 7:08:52 AM PDT by pacific_waters
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To: Gil4

Grand Prix’s are awesome.

I had a 2000 Grand Prix with 200k miles. Would have gotten more if it didn’t have the “red” anti freeze (back then this anti freeze did something to the intake manifold gasket and then sludged the engine).


32 posted on 10/03/2010 7:09:13 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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