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The Buzz of Moss's Return to the Dome, Leaves More Questions Than Answers
ChicoER Gate ^ | 10/ | Chuck Wolk

Posted on 10/07/2010 9:55:26 AM PDT by OneVike

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To: OneVike

Skol!! Great analysis!


21 posted on 10/07/2010 2:03:34 PM PDT by philled (Lay on, Macduff! And damned be him that first cries “Hold, enough!”)
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To: OneVike

The minute the Vikes leave that dome and go outside, I will be their biggest fan.


22 posted on 10/07/2010 2:27:07 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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To: OneVike; Bender2; cleveland gop
There is one bottom line when it comes to the Vicekings:

That will not change.

23 posted on 10/07/2010 5:38:23 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: OneVike
Belichick apparently holds to the notion that poison (amply displayed in public interviews and elsewhere) in the locker room equates to a death knell for his team on the field..
24 posted on 10/07/2010 6:20:18 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: OneVike

Thanks for the ping!


25 posted on 10/07/2010 8:23:59 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: OneVike

logical reason for what looks like laziness to the fan?

Would it be that Randy’s about as rich as he needs to be, and he doesn’t much care about team success or playoff wins?


26 posted on 10/08/2010 7:11:06 AM PDT by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: flowerplough

You obviously missed my whole point.

Tell you what, why don’t you run just 3 100 yard sprints, and then when i see you being a bit slower on the 3rd one, I’ll just say you are lazy and you don’t care about playing anymore.

As I pointed out he runs farther in one game than anby other player on the field. Maybe, just maybe, he deserves a bit of a breather.

Now you will say then take him out. What you fail to understand is, just his presence in the line up causes the defensive coordinator to be prepared for him to possibly run. So while the offensive coaches knows, and admits that sometimes he takes it easy because he is winded, they leave him in for a psychological battle of wits with the def.

The very possibility that Randy could take one to the house when not covered is enough to occupy one, two, and even three defenders at times. Especially if you are playing a team that does not have good corners.

So how do you stop the run properly if three men are watching Randy? Yoiu don’t, so with a great RB like Smith was, and now AP is even better, well... Just watch what happens Monday night. I expect AP to get well over 100 yards.

Also, don’t be surprised if Moss gets a few long TDs as Favre and Moss catch Rex Ryan loading the box with 8 men to either sack Favre, or stop AP.


27 posted on 10/08/2010 7:48:48 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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Belichick apparently holds to the notion that poison (amply displayed in public interviews and elsewhere) in the locker room equates to a death knell for his team on the field..

From what Belichick said yesterday, Randy was a model player and a joy to coach. Not one player has come out and disparaged Moss.

Also, you realize that they told Moss at the beginning of the season that they will not renegotiate anyone's contract during the regular season, right?

Well, then they renegotiated Brady's contract. I think I would be a bit upset if my boss told me...
"OV", I am not giving anyone a raise this year"
Then two days later I read in the papers and hear on the radio that my co-worker just got a raise.

Well, I think it would be time for me to find a new place to work, after all, if I cannot trust my employer to keep their word, what good is the company. I don't care if you make minimum wage or 30 million, if you cannot trust the word of your boss because he out and out lied to you, then why would you want to work in that environment?

Yes, I might even vocalize my displeasure at the idea that I was told no raises for ANYONE, then another employee was given a raise.

Honor and respect go both way's and telling a lie about raises, is just the same as spreading poison in the locker room. How can anyone trust the word of the Patriot Mgt now. Will they not all be a bit skeptical about the managements word when they tell them the same thing they told Moss in the future?

Are you telling me that you would not be a bit peeved yourself? Remember, the amount of money does not matter, it is the principle of the matter that counts. They still expect Moss to go out and take a chance at ending his career for no extra cash when Moss is in a contract year. Brady was not in a contract year, but they treated him different.

You need to put yourself in his shoes and tell me what you would have done, and again, remember that not one player has even hinted that Moss was poison, NOT ONE!
28 posted on 10/08/2010 8:05:19 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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Randy was lauded by local media (here in Mass.) throughout the pre Season practices because of his terrific efforts and determination.

After the very first post game interview he ranted about himself and his desire for a new contract. It was inappropriate.

I'll concede that Moss signed on the cheap 3 years ago for a measly 27 Million. He clearly deserved 28 Million.

If you really watched him at all last year it was evident that he was regularly in a foul mood and made several half hearted attempts at actually catching excellent passes.

We all saw it.

The man has great talent and he does some good things, but on the field, it is all about him.

Belichick sent him home after he arrived late following a few snow flurries and I think that was intended to send Moss et al a message. This team does not center around a single player. Well certainly not around a wide receiver.

Maybe this second chance in Minnesota will be what he needs to realize that a Team in the NFL includes more than just 53 players plus Coaches.

You gotta win the crowd.

Moss could have done that with ease by keeping his mouth running a bit slower than he did during games.

He didn't, he's gone, good riddance.

He is poison. You'll see.

29 posted on 10/08/2010 9:06:57 AM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: OneVike

Funny how things change so quickly, I was hanging out talking about the Vikes and the next thing I know I am riding in the car doing 85 mph to the big city for the OR they have waiting for me.
I stepped on a nail on wed afternoon, no biggie at all. Thurs morn I called clinic and couldn’t get in till 2pm. My foot was hurting more than it should have and was swelling. Still wasn’t too worried but thinking I needed antibiotics or something. She came in, looked at it, asked what time I did it, and left. Seemed odd I have never seen her be rude at all. She comes back in 3 minutes later and says they are waiting for you at the big city ER (70 miles away) and they will hold an OR for me as soon as one is open. I’m pretty sure my mouth was hanging open.
I had to pick up my husband at work so he could take me, and they literally were waiting for me when I got there. I said my name and rushed me back. I was in the OR within 30 minutes of getting to the ER. I am still in the hospital, hoping to be able to be discharged tomorrow, Sunday. They are still growing whatever is in my foot so they can send me home with the most effective antibiotics. For now I am on broad spectrum IV antibiotics. The TV stinks so I am really hoping to be home for Mondays game.
I didn’t think you were waiting around on the thread for me but it seemed to me I kinda left unexpectedly. And if it the message seems disjointed, I am on good pain meds so sorry.

I have eaten purple birthday cake for the last 22 years.


30 posted on 10/09/2010 1:46:36 PM PDT by momto6
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Wow, so what exactly did you step on? A nail? Sure seems they were extra worried about it.

I stepped on a nail when I was like 12. The next day I was in so much pain at school the teacher looked at it and was actually shocked as hi face turned sour looking.

I knew my foot was a bit colored and sore, but the look on his face scared ,me more than my foot.

He called my Mom, and she showed up in a cab. He carried me from the class to her car and off to the OR I went.

They gave me a tetanus shot and sent me home. I was fine the next day as I recall. This was back in 1968.

So my prayers are with you and let’s both keep our fingers crossed for the Vikes.

God bless you. I understand people cannot get back right away at times.

OV


31 posted on 10/09/2010 2:43:03 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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Not only did I step on the nail but I stepped hard enough for it to hit the bone. When I looked after I did it I had clear liquid seeping from the puncture wound. From what I hear now that is bad. I guess that if an infection gets to the bone it spreads very quick, so they treat it very aggressively. In my case they did surgery to open it up, clean it out, and pack it so it can drain.
I do know that my 5 sons are hanging their heads in shame that their mom was out cleaning up the yard and that is when she stepped on the nail. I should have lots of points when I get home and maybe even never have to clean up the yard ever again.


32 posted on 10/09/2010 3:48:56 PM PDT by momto6
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To the bone... Ouch.

I don’t remember the pain so much as I do have a reminder of that day every now and then when I feel a sharp pain right where the nail entered my foot. I was with a friend and we were swimming in the St Lawrence River. On the way back to hi house I jumped over so0me RR tracks and when I landed a nail went right through my sneaker and into the middle of my foot. While the scar is almost unnoticeable today, I can locate it easily when I feel the sharp pain.

No one ever told me when I went to the ER for the tetanus shot that I might have hit a nerve, but years later when I mentioned the pain to my doctor, he told me that I may have.

So how long is the prognosis for healing. Also, you can thank God that he allowed this to happen now and not after Obama’s death care destroys our medical society.

momto6, and you have 5 boys. Am I right to say you must have at least one daughter?

If so then you probably will have at least a Clara Barton to help nurse you back to full health while your sons are cleaning up the yard.

I pray all goes well for you and yours, God bless.

Go Vikes.

OV


33 posted on 10/09/2010 8:00:38 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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