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'Water mining' is now a prime culprit for raising sea levels (irrigation is killing us all alert)
London Daily Telegraph ^ | October 9, 2010 | Geoffrey Lean

Posted on 10/09/2010 7:57:50 AM PDT by Zakeet

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To: RicocheT

***Water mining? Pleeeze stop making up bogus reasons for something that isn’t occurring.***

These idiots must set around all day doing nothing but trying to find something to frighten us!


21 posted on 10/09/2010 8:25:14 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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To: RicocheT
But a new study shows purports ...
22 posted on 10/09/2010 8:25:19 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Strategerist

This assumes underground aquifers are static and they aren’t. For example, the panhandle of Idaho sits atop a huge aquifer. You will find there the Lost River, and if memory serves, the Little Lost River. They are “lost” because the water in them eventually sinks into the aquifer. A lot of it emerges later near Twin Falls, Idaho but it is clear that aquifers are not closed off “water banks” from which there are only withdrawals, not deposits.


23 posted on 10/09/2010 8:26:50 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Zakeet

The Maldives were suppose to be underwater 30 years ago - Mohamed Nasheed doesn’t need to worry about too much water, he needs to worry about ‘liberal idiot money’ drying up...


24 posted on 10/09/2010 8:27:42 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal violence against Tea Party: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFeUhSlHiUQ)
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To: Zakeet
This inevitably ends up in the oceans after it evaporates from farmland and comes down as rain.

And as the ocean surface also evaporates, it too comes down as snow and rain on land.

25 posted on 10/09/2010 8:27:54 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: RicocheT

Yes, I love the way they say “water mining” instead of drilling wells. I guess they figure “mining” has more of a pollution sound to it, the better to frighten today’s uneducated, indoctrinated yutes.


26 posted on 10/09/2010 8:30:05 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Zakeet

I have just ordered my family in Iowa to quit using ground water and instead pump in ocean water for the purpose. Loony, desperate, stupid GLOBALL WARMING.


27 posted on 10/09/2010 8:33:14 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (How can you tell when the President is lying? When his lips move, of course.)
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To: Strategerist
This is embarrassing. This is so absurd to be passed off as scientific reasoning that it borders on mental illness.

Really

Why?
Really?
28 posted on 10/09/2010 8:34:55 AM PDT by lewislynn ( It's not going to be who wins a seat, rather it will be who loses a seat that will save America)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Not to mention we don’t even occupy 100% of that 30% of land, not even close.


29 posted on 10/09/2010 8:35:41 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Zakeet

Every ground water pump on earth running full bore 24/7 would add no more to the oceans each year than a teaspoon in a swimming pool.


30 posted on 10/09/2010 8:39:34 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty too! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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Definitely IQ tests are warranted for the Ecofascist.

Isn't this evaporation helps cause rain thing taught in elementary schools or Used to be anyway.

31 posted on 10/09/2010 8:39:59 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: caseinpoint
"They are “lost” because the water in them eventually sinks into the aquifer."

I believe it's the other way around. Rivers flow long after runoff ceases because water flows out of the aquifer into the river.

If a river 'sinks into the aquifer', what is really happening is that the water table in the aquifer drops below the riverbed.

32 posted on 10/09/2010 8:42:14 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Zakeet

The author is so incredibly ignorant that I question whether he can read & write. I suspect the idiot had to dictate this tripe.

This man is actually afraid of the water cycle that has nourished this planet for millions of years.

I suggest this fool help the AGW cause by reducing his breathing to once every hour.


33 posted on 10/09/2010 8:44:05 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: RicocheT
The left are so invested in government ruling us all and controlling all that they keep throwing crap like this at us to beguile us.

I'm waiting for the radical left to discover that burning fossil fuels CREATES WATER when the hydrogen in the fuel is burned.....

.....Their mantra that we are running out of water is totally wrong. But because of it, they want us to use low flush toilets and even composting toilets (no water crappers essentially).

We are making water. This "water mining" crap means they are looking at other excuses for sea level changes. The fossil fuel creating water issue hasn't been used yet.

34 posted on 10/09/2010 8:45:51 AM PDT by SteamShovel (UTOPIA...Isn't)
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To: lewislynn

1) This is an incompetent newspaper with a two-paragraph article about a scientific paper in press.

2) The paper is apparently entitled: “Sea-level fingerprint of continental water and ice mass change from GRACE”

3) There’s no abstract of the paper I can find.

4) The paper itself PROBABLY says nothing about the Maldives, doesn’t recommend we stop using groundwater irrigation, etc.

5) Sea level is in fact rising - VERY gradually, and it’s been doing so since the end of the last ice age. It’s mostly the water just thermally expanding, rather than ice melt.

6) “Water Mining” isn’t a term that’s just been invented; it’s been used for years, and I’ve heard it used many times before. The term “fossil water” is also routinely used; aquifers have water that’s accumulated over millions of years.

7) Major deep aquifers are obviously and provably being drained of water much, much faster than they’re being replenished; otherwise farmers wouldn’t need to keep drilling their wells deeper.

8) Just becuse one is skeptical of anthropogenic global warming (as I am) doesn’t mean that one ALSO has to believe it’s IMPOSSIBLE for humans to affect ANYTHING about the earth.

9)The amount of deepwater aquifer water used for irrigation is ENORMOUS; in the paper, the key issue will be the estimate of how much water that is; than a simple calculation should demonstrate the (fairly tiny) sea level rise that this usage causes.

10) We’re going to deplete these deepwater aquifers sometime in the next century at the current rate. This is a problem. It doesn’t mean we should stop all deepwater irrigation immediately and let billions starve. It means we need to continue efforts to use irrigation water more efficiently, and engineer/breed crops that use less water.


35 posted on 10/09/2010 8:48:51 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Zakeet

The Maldives is doomed if Rosie O’Donnell and Michael Moore get near any beach.

“Mohamed Nasheed”...more muslim wisdom and scientific contribution to humanity.


36 posted on 10/09/2010 8:50:52 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: JimRed
Every ground water pump on earth running full bore 24/7 would add no more to the oceans each year than a teaspoon in a swimming pool.

That's the relative scale of the sea level change being discussed, most likely.

37 posted on 10/09/2010 8:51:53 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: SteamShovel
I'm waiting for the radical left to discover that burning fossil fuels CREATES WATER when the hydrogen in the fuel is burned.....

We are making water. This "water mining" crap means they are looking at other excuses for sea level changes. The fossil fuel creating water issue hasn't been used yet.

The water resulting from the burning of fossil fuels is water vapor, almost all of which will end up as rain either directly into the oceans, or through runoff in the oceans, thus creating salt water.

Thus, this could ALSO contribute to sea level rise, though it's likely trivial compared to the use of deep aquifer water.

The water from burning fossil fuels certainly isn't replenishing deepwater aquifers faster than they are being drained.

38 posted on 10/09/2010 8:58:48 AM PDT by Strategerist
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The subject these Marxists are really focused on is PEOPLE!

They want population control and to that end they have done the following:

Banned DDT which in the arrest of maleria would have saved MILLIONS of lives in the last 40 years.
Banned or blocked energy production which would improve the standard of living around the world.
Introduced government “healthcare” which is really about limiting access and quality.
There are books to fill on the subject, but you get the idea.


39 posted on 10/09/2010 8:58:48 AM PDT by G Larry
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To: G Larry

They’ve been coming after Poland Springs water for depleting the aquafer. Now they’ll add sea level rise to the charges.

I’m sure that my well will eventually come under mining regulations.


40 posted on 10/09/2010 9:02:52 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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