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Newly Declassified Iraqi Testimony Shows Why Saddam Had to Be Removed (There you go, Bush was right)
Pajamas Media ^ | October 11, 2010 | Ryan Mauro

Posted on 10/11/2010 7:37:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: rdb3

I know-—it’s just fun to remind him of the facts from time to time.


41 posted on 10/11/2010 1:54:45 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Quilla
BTTT -- Bush should have paraded that shipment all across the Atlantic, with a big cruiser escort and plenty of notice to European media as they passed through the Med.
42 posted on 10/11/2010 2:33:15 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Some disaster. Read any newspapers lately?

Either you a strangely perverse view of what disaster means or you haven't "read" anything about the imposition of Sharia law (with active U.S. support) in previously secular Iraq. If the latter is the case, see here. Either you don't care about the systematic cleansing of ancient Iraq's Christian population by the Shi'te regime since the fall of Saddam or haven't "read" about it. If the latter is the case, see here.

43 posted on 10/12/2010 9:20:58 AM PDT by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Some disaster. Read any newspapers lately?

Either you have a strangely perverse view of what disaster means or you haven't "read" anything about the imposition of Sharia law (with active U.S. support) in previously secular Iraq. If the latter is the case, see here. Either you don't care about the systematic cleansing of ancient Iraq's Christian population by the Shi'te regime since the fall of Saddam or haven't "read" about it. If the latter is the case, see here.

44 posted on 10/12/2010 9:21:20 AM PDT by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: bert
drivel

Interesting debating technique. Please elaborate.

45 posted on 10/12/2010 9:26:26 AM PDT by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: RickB444

The membership of this forum is not for you to determine.


46 posted on 10/12/2010 9:27:29 AM PDT by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: Captain Kirk; lentulusgracchus
Either you a strangely perverse view of what disaster means or you haven't "read" anything about the imposition of Sharia law (with active U.S. support) in previously secular Iraq.

Spreading your Code Pink talking points again? Tell it to ronpaulforums. They probably have a few who are gullible enough to believe that pap.

Iraq has established Islam as its official religion (and I oppose that, but nobody asked me), but they have not imposed sharia law. Read it from the Constitution of Iraq:

"Article 2:

First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:

A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.

B. No law that contradicts the principles of democracy may be established.

C. No law that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms stipulated in this constitution may be established.

Second: This Constitution guarantees the Islamic identity of the majority of the Iraqi people and guarantees the full religious rights of all individuals to freedom of religious belief and practice such as Christians, Yazedis, and Mandi Sabeans."

No country that imposes sharia law would have alcohol being legal (to include nightclubs and bars), a westernized family court system, no dress codes for women and women in government positions of authority.

So, while Iraq does name Islam as its official religion, and there is strong evidence that the Mullahcracy in Iran wants to impose that garbage on Iraq, it has not happened.

Get your facts straight before you pull MSNBC stunts using false information to make your Code Pink points, please.

47 posted on 10/13/2010 5:49:43 AM PDT by Allegra (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Allegra
Spreading your Code Pink talking points again? Tell it to ronpaulforums. They probably have a few who are gullible enough to believe that pap.

Iraq has established Islam as its official religion (and I oppose that, but nobody asked me), but they have not imposed sharia law. Read it from the Constitution of Iraq

LOL. You quote the Constitution of Iraq to prove that Sharia law is not imposed in Iraq! That's like quoting to the American consitution to prove that we still have gun rights and property rights in the U.S. The reality is much different.

Sharia law is indeed being "imposed" on the unwilling. See here (courtesy of that pro "Code Pink" site, Jihad Watch).

Baghdad (AsiaNews) -For the past ten days, no one has been able to drink or buy alcoholic beverages in Najaf because of a bylaw adopted by local authorities. The decision comes as the latest in a series, suggesting that Sharia is being slowly implemented in Iraq, and that it also applies to non-Muslims.

Najaf is considered a holy city for Shia Muslims because the first Shia imam and fourth caliph, Ali ibn Abi Talib, is buried there. Because of the city's special nature as a Shia holy city, the provincial council ruled unanimously that "drinking, selling or transporting alcohol of any kind in whatever quantity" was inappropriate since such activities are incompatible with Islam. Violators, even if they belong to another religion, face the possibility of being sued before a court. The ruling applies to the city of Najaf and its province and includes a ban on advertising.

48 posted on 10/13/2010 9:24:09 AM PDT by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: Captain Kirk
LOL. You quote the Constitution of Iraq to prove that Sharia law is not imposed in Iraq!

LOL - and YOU quote the media - a year-old article at that - to try to tell someone who has been here for six and a half years what the "reality" is.

We all know your agenda, CK. You've made it abundantly clear in the past and you continue to do so at every opportunity.

You're entertaining (to a point), though.

49 posted on 10/13/2010 10:30:34 AM PDT by Allegra (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Captain Kirk

This article doesn’t even prove your point. You said the Iraqi regime “established Sharia law in that country.” But the piece you linked to only says sharia law is “slowly advancing”...in two Iraqi cities. It says nothing about it being clamped down on the whole nation. There’s a world of difference between the two.


50 posted on 10/13/2010 7:12:16 PM PDT by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Our Joe Wilson can take the Dems' Joe Wilson any day of the week)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
This article doesn’t even prove your point. You said the Iraqi regime “established Sharia law in that country.” But the piece you linked to only says sharia law is “slowly advancing”...in two Iraqi cities. It says nothing about it being clamped down on the whole nation. There’s a world of difference between the two.

Basra is the second largest city of Iraq!! The imposition of Sharia law there was only made possible by the new pro-Sharia constitution. Ditto for Najif which has over 500K people. The article used these two cities as major examples of a larger trend. It didn't make the claim that Sharia was limited to them! Where the heck did you get that idea?

51 posted on 10/14/2010 7:47:23 AM PDT by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: Captain Kirk

A trend? You said the regime “established the secular law of Saddam with Sharia law” and “established Sharia law in that country.” You didn’t argue for a trend. You said it was implemented by the regime. The article says it was the local authorities in those cities that made it happen. Furthermore, the Iraqi constitution “guarantees the full religious rights of all individuals to freedom of religious belief and practice such as Christians, Yazedis, and Mandi Sabeans.” If anything, they’re doing it in violation of the constitution, not because of it. Your description of it as pro-Sharia is invalid.


52 posted on 10/14/2010 9:14:44 AM PDT by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Our Joe Wilson can take the Dems' Joe Wilson any day of the week)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
Furthermore, the Iraqi constitution “guarantees the full religious rights of all individuals to freedom of religious belief and practice such as Christians, Yazedis, and Mandi Sabeans.” If anything, they’re doing it in violation of the constitution, not because of it. Your description of it as pro-Sharia is invalid.

The people of Basra, Najif and other cities are suffering under the boot of Sharia, and you rationalize and excuse it. Why don't you condemn it ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU HAVEN'T DENIED THAT THIS IS THE CASE?! As to your habit of quoting the Iraqi Consitution, it is somewhat comparable to the commies who thought they had a knock down argument when they quoted Stalin's 1936 constitution which explicitly guaranteed religious and press freedom. As the suffering people of Basra as well as Stalin's USSR could attest, their paper constitutional guarantees are a joke. Let me repeat, do you condemn the imposition of Sharia law in these and other bastions of Iraq's Shi'ite government? If so, what do you intend to do about it?

53 posted on 10/18/2010 8:51:00 AM PDT by Captain Kirk (Q)
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