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The Unraveling Of Obamacare
National Center For Policy Analysis ^ | NCPA/IBD

Posted on 10/12/2010 8:32:56 AM PDT by raptor22

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To: raptor22

Seems demmies are dedicated to hamburger flipping jobs. It seems like just yesterday they claimed George Bush’s economy was only creating hamburger flipper jobs. My, how times change.


21 posted on 10/12/2010 9:02:54 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: raptor22

I’m looking forward to the lawsuits for denials of waivers. Fun!


22 posted on 10/12/2010 9:04:11 AM PDT by matt1234 (The only crisis 0bama can manage is one he intentionally created.)
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To: raptor22
Through the floor, Obowma.....through the floor.....
23 posted on 10/12/2010 9:06:36 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: ohioWfan

I’m on board with that. The primary instinct of the political animal (career politician) is survival. Republicans ALWAYS want to compromise.

But you saw what the RATS did—they jumped off of the cliff for what they believed in: health care for all.

Do the Republicans have the courage to be as radical?

To repeal? To defund this monstrosity? To fight on through the next presidential campaign.

The RATS declared war. The Republicans better not be waving the white flag already.


24 posted on 10/12/2010 9:07:01 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: raptor22

“because otherwise they’d have to raise rates or drop coverage”

PRESIDENT OBAMA: “All This Is Going To Lower Premiums. It’s Going To Make Healthcare More Affordable” (President Obama, Remarks, 9/22/10)

HHS SEC. SEBELIUS: “What Will Happen With Health Reform, Premiums Will Go Down Between 14% And 20% Just By Passing The Bills.”
(Sec. Sebelius, Press Conference, 2/18/10)

SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV): “…We Can Reduce The Costs Of Premiums For Nevadans And All Americans. This Is One More Reason Why We Need To Pass Health Insurance Reform Now, Protecting Patients And Making Health Care Affordable.” (Sen. Reid, “Senate Health Reform Bill Will Reduce Premiums For Nevadans,” Press Release, 12/2/09)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-MT): “That Letter Shows That For All Americans — All Americans — Premiums Will Be Lower.” (Sen. Max Baucus, Floor Remarks, 12/1/09)

http://tinyurl.com/2arj5qg

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Obama: Premiums Will Decrease 3000% So You Should Get A Raise When H’care Is Passed
Let’s say an employer pays $4,000 in health care premiums for an employee.

If his premium goes down 100% he will save $4,000 dollars. If it goes down 3,000% that is a savings of $4,000 x 30 which = $120,000.

Which means that an employer will make a $120,000 profit on each employee’s healthcare insurance once Obama-care is passed.

You can buy a lot of unicorns with $120,000.

http://tinyurl.com/22me56m


25 posted on 10/12/2010 9:09:04 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: SC_Pete
I completely agree.

But we have a weapon we haven't had before and the Republican leadership knows it. We can oust them from their comfy seats in the primaries if they don't do the job, and we will.

We need to make sure that we remind them of that hard, cold fact every day. We're not going back, and they'd better not either.

26 posted on 10/12/2010 9:13:42 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

I believe Rove did the night he got so mand about ODonnel. He mentioned that we needed a candidate in that state that would negotiate compromise in DC..several more times when Democrats accused Repubilcans of being the party of NO.


27 posted on 10/12/2010 9:21:36 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: dalebert
I watched that. I don't remember that he said a thing about compromising about healthcare (the subject of this thread, and your charge).

But, even if he did, he isn't an elected Republican, and therefore your statement has no factual basis.

I didn't think it did. Just wanted to make sure.

28 posted on 10/12/2010 9:52:26 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

no but the house minority leader talks it all the time and yes he was talking healthcare.


29 posted on 10/12/2010 9:54:39 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: raptor22

Our insurance carrier let us know that the rates for our business are going up 25%. We cannot afford that, so our only choice will be to let our policies lapse.


30 posted on 10/12/2010 10:05:42 AM PDT by Monitor (Gun control isn't about guns, it's about control.)
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To: ohioWfan

Yes—the primaries are working very well. However, the ultimate goal has to be term limits. Incumbancy is THE source of corruption in the system.


31 posted on 10/12/2010 10:47:12 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: raptor22

From fat cat insurance companies to “economically prohibitive” for its insurance carrier.
The brotherhood of good old boy club still doing well in Washington.


32 posted on 10/12/2010 10:48:22 AM PDT by Vaduz
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However, the ultimate goal has to be term limits. Incumbancy is THE source of corruption in the system.

Nonsense. What you get with term limits is a series of nameless agents of special interests, each with a promise to take care of them when their stint is done.

If term limits ensured accountable government, please explain the behavior of the California legislature.

33 posted on 10/12/2010 11:19:51 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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I worked in government for 35 years. I saw first hand what happens to honorable, decent, moral, and ethical people when they get elected. After about five months or so, they discover what their prime directive is: get re-elected. It’s like a switch gets thrown in their brains and they adopt the phony, politician’s smile. True for RATS orPubbies.

I would rather take my chances with teachers, engineers, architects, automotive mechanics, or Walmart greeters than have Dodd, Reid, Frank, Grassley, Hatch, Dingle, Conyers, Boxer, Feinstein, Feingold, Graham,

I do like DeMint though—but one out of hundreds don’t improve the odds. Oh, and by the way, I do not speak nonsense you condescending twit.


34 posted on 10/12/2010 11:36:04 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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I worked in government for 35 years. I saw first hand what happens to honorable, decent, moral, and ethical people when they get elected.

I don't give a damn what your personal experience is; you have not answered my question. We have an experiment. It is California. We did term limits. It backfired. Things got worse. The legislature has become a revolving door for lobbyists, not everyday citizens.

I would rather take my chances with teachers, engineers, architects, automotive mechanics, or Walmart greeters

That's not what you get with term limits. They have to come up with the money to run in the first place from somewhere. That means sponsorship. What you get is an incompetent and crooked neophyte with unalterable and invisible loyalties.

If term limits ensured accountable government, please explain the behavior of the California legislature.

35 posted on 10/12/2010 11:52:47 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: ohioWfan
I'm not a liar and that's what you implied....what do you think bi partisan is?
36 posted on 10/12/2010 12:38:35 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Monitor

Cavuto now speaking to how Insurance companies are being demonized.

Funny how the Dems want to confiscate such a criminal enterprise and yet they cannot explain why Obamacare will cost even more when run by a caring, competent, honest Federal Agency.

Private and competitive Health Insurance companies remain the best solution to paying for the most advanced medical care in the world. They have enabled revolutionary screening, pharmaceutical and medical procedure(s) research & development for over a century.

The government is about to seek and destroy a great enterprise.


37 posted on 10/12/2010 1:22:00 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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To: raptor22
When an insurance company covers pre-existing conditions, it is no longer insurance, because it is paying for an eventuality that has ALREADY OCCURRED. I'll bet had insurance companies taken it upon themselves to do so before the mandate, the state insurance commissions would not have allowed them to-the commissions would have an obligation to protect other policy holders.

Is this an angle that could be taken up in court?

38 posted on 10/12/2010 1:29:26 PM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: ohioWfan

10-4


39 posted on 10/12/2010 2:04:16 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: raptor22

You can access the vote for Obamacare at:

http:/clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll165.xml

You may want to consult it before election day. I’ve already sent it to everyone in my address book.


40 posted on 10/12/2010 2:57:39 PM PDT by donaldo
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