Who Should I Vote For?

Ancient Paths ^ | 10/14/10 | Larry Pruett

[FrankR]

Well said, I couldn't agree more. The point I was trying to make is, most folks should know if their candidate is a RINO by now.

The voting process is not a Multiple Choice Exam, and the old rule of thumb "the longest answer is the right one" doesn't apply; a well-prepared voter should take no longer to cast a vote than it takes to check the boxes or click the screen.

I see people at the polls standing in the booths, scratching their heads, and taking 20 minutes to vote...where the hell have they been the past 18-months? You would think the first time they have seen the names was in the booth.

Voting is not rocket science. If you know of a "write-in" who would be better, then write it in...otherwise pick one of the choices given...preferably with an (R) next to it...any other party is a vote for the democrats as it dilutes the vote...you know, like Perot....

[GunRunner]

Our government is supposed to keep the Constitution as the underpinnings of our government and laws. Nowhere in the Constitution will you find the words Jesus, Christ, or God.

In spite of that fact however, over 90% of the members of Congress are Christian or Jewish, and there's only one atheist. Yet we're still in a mess. Do you still think someone's religion is the most important fact to take into account when voting?

I sure as hell don't. It tells you next to nothing about how that person will vote.

[RobinOfKingston]

... moral character ...

With the departure of Zell Miller, I can't think of anyone who packs a "D" who would be bothered with "moral character."

[notatard?]

We are headed so far left right now it is going to take TWO hard right turns to get even close to moving in the right direction. The first MUST happen in 19 days, then the second in NOV. 2012. If it doesn’t happen this year, 2012 will be too late.

[nmh]

It’s really too bad even Zell can’t move away from the label of aa Demoncrat.

[nmh]

“I’m sure that there were founders who wanted only Christians to hold office, but there were more that did not support this view. That’s why there is a prohibition on any religious test for any public office.”

Can you name ANY founder that supported a NonChristian?

I can’t think of one. Can YOU?

BYW, what do you have against Christianity?

Your hostility towards it is showing.

You don’t haveto be one to appreciate the country YOU inherited from THEM.

[nmh]

“I’m sure that there were founders who wanted only Christians to hold office, but there were more that did not support this view. That’s why there is a prohibition on any religious test for any public office.”

Can you name ANY founder that supported a NonChristian?

I can’t think of one. Can YOU?

BTW, what do you have against Christianity?

Your hostility towards it is showing.

You don’t haveto be one to appreciate the country YOU inherited from THEM.

[nmh]

“I'm sure that there were founders who wanted only Christians to hold office, but there were more that did not support this view. That's why there is a prohibition on any religious test for any public office.”

Can you name ANY founder that supported a NonChristian?

I can't think of one. Can YOU?

BTW, what do you have against Christianity?

Your hostility towards it is showing.

You don't have to be one to appreciate the country YOU inherited from THEM.

“That's why there is a prohibition on any religious test for any public office.”

NO that is NOT why there is no religious test,national religion or state religion. Do you remember England and the Church of England and the Popes ALL IMPOSING their religion on the people? Do you know who the Separatists and the Puritans are?

The Pope and the Church of England should be self explanatory. We do NOT want a national or state religion. We have religious freedom here because of the terrible things that happened under the “name of religion” in Europe.

The Puritans didn't believe the Church of England was purified enough from Catholicism so they came HERE to practice their Bible based view of it using the Geneva Bible. In painting you will readily see that Bible in D.C. and the Capital.

The Separatists wanted to separate from the Church of England. They didn't agree with the teachings of the state religion and wanted to get back to Bible based teachings. So RELIGION was very important to ALL of them - especially our founding fathers. They simply didn't want to repeat the mistake of requiring a constituent to adhere to beliefs they were NOT in agreement with.

SO again, what found advocated a NON CHRISTIAN for government positions? I can't think of one.

Don't bother offering up Jefferson as a deist. That couldn't be more laughable. Jefferson was part of a Bible Society. Jefferson was quite “religious”. He used his own money to print the Jefferson Bible. The Jefferson Bible was the passages ONLY quoted from Christ. The printed copies were given to missionaries for in turn used it to evangelize the Indians.

I don't know what kind of history you learned in school but if you do NOT know this, you should be angry. You have been CHEATED out of your heritage. You have been lied to about what our founders did, believed and sacrificed for YOU to have it so nice. We owe these folks proper respect.

[GunRunner]

Can you name ANY founder that supported a NonChristian?

I don't understand the question. If you mean name non-Christian Founding Fathers, the two off the top of my head would be Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson.

Ben Franklin thought Christ lived the most perfect life the world has ever known, but was unconvinced of his divinity.

The FF came from all sorts of different religious backgrounds, but the main fact that I'm pointing out is that they gave us a secular Constitution.

[GunRunner]

You obviously don't know anything about Jefferson or The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth.

You realize the Jefferson bible has all of the supernatural elements removed correct? You also know that he likened the virgin birth to Roman parthenogenesis myths, right?

[nmh]

“You obviously don't know anything about Jefferson or The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth.”

I know allot about Jefferson and Christ.

“You realize the Jefferson bible has all of the supernatural elements removed correct? You also know that he likened the virgin birth to Roman parthenogenesis myths, right?”

I am pointing out that what you say is WRONG.

Supernatural events are IN the Jeffersonian Bible. What Jefferson did was simple highlight what Christ said and did. I'm sure you know about the “red lettering” in some Bible that highlight what Christ said. THIS is what Jefferson had PRINTED for missionaries to give to the Indians to evangelize them.

“You also know that he likened the virgin birth to Roman parthenogenesis myths, right?”

That is also a FALSE statement. Jefferson never said anything like that. You have been fooled into believing rewritten history that is anti-Christian. Here's another one for you. Liberals LOVE to be critical of Jefferson OWNING SLAVES. Yes, he did own them and treated them well. He even educated them - which was not necessary. He didn't have "affairs" with them either.

Most importantly, note, that Jefferson owned slaves because at the time it was ILLEGAL TO FREE THEM. Jefferson took the law to heart even though he didn't agree with it. He made up for it by treating them all well. He took good care of them till they could be legally free.

It's not necessarily your fault that you bought into these lies. This is what is propagated by the LEFT. The left has a huge influence on what it taught.

I would highly recommend this website:

http://openlibrary.org/

I would highly recommend you read ORIGINAL SOURCE books.

Read their autobiography. See for yourself what they did and said by them directly or by other historians from their time - prior to the 20th century.

You will be amazed and angry at what YOU were taught in school. Most of it is down right LIES and truth twisting.

If you don't believe me, pick up a book at your local library geared to kids and just skin it on FDR. He will be presented like a god. He will get RAVE reviews.

I challenge you to count the NUMBER of books on him versus someone like GWB or Clinton or Obama. Don't you see it? The LEFT HATES decent people alive or dead in history that were conservative. Our kids, if parents aren't careful will have them believing these liberal lies and distortions. This is why we make it a point to see out ORIGINAL SOURCE books.

[nmh]

It's really kind of amusing ... ours go to private school and I do supplement them with books I deem appropriate. Anyway, at the school they were studying the Reformation. Martin Luther was her chosen topic for a book report. So we went to the local library.

We found ONE book on him that was VAGUE that would be appropriate for her age. ONE BOOK. The rest was ALL Martin Luther King Jr. or Martin Luther the black civil rights leader. There were pages and pages of books on these two and ONE BOOK on Martin Luther and the Reformation - ONE BOOK!

Most libraries are terribly SKEWED. It is clear that the LEFT truly wants kids to see things THEIR WAY. The same is true of history. I find it personally offensive how they slander and mischaracterize men and women that stood up for us to form the best country on earth. They deliberately LIE about these people. Many of the founding fathers dies penniless. They gave our country their all.

[GunRunner]

The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth is the title of the 'Jefferson Bible'. For someone who claims to know so much, I'd assume you'd at least be aware of that.

Second, as for my assertion that Jefferson likened the Virgin Birth to Roman myths, you said "That is also a FALSE statement."

Well, here's the quote:

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.

April 11th, 1823 Letter to John Adams

So you're 0 for 2.

As for the lack of miracles and the supernatural in the Jefferson Bible, he described his overall view in understanding the life of Jesus without the veils of mysticism, the supernatural, and superstition in a letter to John Adams:

I should proceed to a view of the life, character, and doctrines of Jesus, who sensible of incorrectness of their ideas of the Deity, and of morality, endeavored to bring them to the principles of a pure deism, and juster notions of the attributes of God, to reform their moral doctrines to the standard of reason, justice and philanthropy, and to inculcate the belief of a future state. This view would purposely omit the question of his divinity, and even his inspiration. To do him justice, it would be necessary to remark the disadvantages his doctrines had to encounter, not having been committed to writing by himself, but by the most unlettered of men, by memory, long after they had heard them from him; when much was forgotten, much misunderstood, and presented in every paradoxical shape. Yet such are the fragments remaining as to show a master workman, and that his system of morality was the most benevolent and sublime probably that has been ever taught, and consequently more perfect than those of any of the ancient philosophers. His character and doctrines have received still greater injury from those who pretend to be his special disciples, and who have disfigured and sophisticated his actions and precepts, from views of personal interest, so as to induce the unthinking part of mankind to throw off the whole system in disgust, and to pass sentence as an impostor on the most innocent, the most benevolent, the most eloquent and sublime character that ever has been exhibited to man.

http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/jefferson_m_03.html

You'll find nothing of the Virgin Birth or the Resurrection in the Jefferson Bible, nor any reference to any miracles. If I'm wrong, then you're free to product evidence to the contrary.

[Sopater]

over 90% of the members of Congress are Christian or Jewish, and there's only one atheist. Yet we're still in a mess.

There's a mighty big difference between claiming to be Christian or Jewish and actually walking in the faith. Let's not confuse the two.

[GunRunner]

Everyone has a different idea of “walking the faith”. It’s completely subjective.