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1 posted on 10/15/2010 6:03:47 AM PDT by earlJam
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...another developer in the pockets of government, have the government clear the land (at tax payers expense) and then sell it off making huge profits....(isn’t that the way it goes Reid?)


2 posted on 10/15/2010 6:07:08 AM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....PLEASE donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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In order to improve the habitat, 2,900 acres of the national forest would be cleared, burned and possibly spot-treated with chemicals to create the grassy areas the butterfly needs to survive.

Oh, what a horrible dilemma for the tree and butterfly huggers! CHEMICALS, even!

3 posted on 10/15/2010 6:07:46 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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The Democrat Party has found a way to legalize organized crime. Remember in November!


5 posted on 10/15/2010 6:09:53 AM PDT by Kazooskibum
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The plan would also call for closing motorized access to portions of the forest.

I go to the state and national forests for the freedom. Taking that freedom away will only hurt those forests.
6 posted on 10/15/2010 6:11:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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The deer will like it too - causing more car/deer accidents and increased possibly of human death.


7 posted on 10/15/2010 6:13:27 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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So they want to kill off the habitat for all other creatures of nature for a butterfly. Has to be hidden agenda.


8 posted on 10/15/2010 6:13:28 AM PDT by opentalk
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This is just more arsehole bureaucrats trying to justify their existence on the gubbermint payroll. Whoever proposed this should be fired....So he can see what he is qualified for in the dreaded private sector

Half the EPA could be fired and we will get along just fine


9 posted on 10/15/2010 6:13:54 AM PDT by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confuscius.)
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The U.S. Forest Service is proposing to cut or burn more than five square miles of trees in southern Oceana County to create a habitat for the endangered Karner blue butterfly.

SUBMITTING COMMENTS Comments postmarked by Oct. 25 should be submitted to: • Christopher Frederick at Baldwin-White Cloud Ranger District, 650 N. Michigan Ave., Baldwin, Mich. 49304. • Telephone: 231-745-4631, ext. 3138. • Fax: 231-745-2345. • E-mail: comments-eastern-huron-manistee-baldwin-white-cloud@fs.fed.us

11 posted on 10/15/2010 6:14:23 AM PDT by EBH (We have lost our heritage of "making money.")
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2900 acres of carbon dioxide eaters (also known as “trees”) will be destroyed. Oh, the Global Warming!


12 posted on 10/15/2010 6:14:44 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (King: "I have a dream"...Sharpton: "I want a check")
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I don’t know why they have public comment periods because even if 99.9% of the public are against it the government will do it anyway and if they don’t some environazi group will sue them and a fed judge will give them what they want. Twenty years from now they will find out that the butterflies actually preferred some plant that grows between trees but only after the butterflies are gone.

The crazy thing is that the butterflies are there, duh, they obviously like the forest as it is.


13 posted on 10/15/2010 6:18:05 AM PDT by tiki
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I don’t know why they have public comment periods because even if 99.9% of the public are against it the government will do it anyway and if they don’t some environazi group will sue them and a fed judge will give them what they want. Twenty years from now they will find out that the butterflies actually preferred some plant that grows between trees but only after the butterflies are gone.

The crazy thing is that the butterflies are there, duh, they obviously like the forest as it is.


15 posted on 10/15/2010 6:22:51 AM PDT by tiki
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This is a beautiful forest by lake MI. The story needs national attention to show how out of touch the government is getting and get it stopped. A comment at the link indicates they have already started part of this.


16 posted on 10/15/2010 6:24:30 AM PDT by opentalk
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The forest should be managed for multiple use as it has been (or at least should have been) for the past many decades. It’s almost impossible to do that any more in our national forest here because the stupid “environmentalists” have blocked every sale they possibly can.


17 posted on 10/15/2010 6:26:38 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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Who are we to question the wisdom of the Earth Goddess Gaia? If she chooses to let her forests threaten one of her humble creatures should we not defer to her? We are not worthy... /s


18 posted on 10/15/2010 6:27:17 AM PDT by BWDog
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They need a cooperative habitat plan like Wisconsin has. Karner’s have flourished under it to the point that Wisconsin is moving toward requesting delisting.

Matbe CMS can get involved and spearhead an effort.


19 posted on 10/15/2010 6:31:16 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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Why not just plant Lupine. It is a natural attractor for this endangered butterfly and grows in Michigan climate. Guess they’d need an education for this idea!


20 posted on 10/15/2010 6:31:37 AM PDT by poobear ("The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes." -- Thomas Paine)
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I never understood why a rabid environmentalist leftist, who presumably is dedicated to Darwins view of evolution, would ever object to the extinction of a species who cannot adapt to changes brought about by another species. If this butterfly cannot adapt ... then by modern scientific argument it should become extinct.

I think this really shows that environmentalism isnt really about saving the planet, its about bringing our country under subjection.


23 posted on 10/15/2010 6:43:47 AM PDT by dartuser
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WHAT!!!??? and destroy all those trees? Insanity for butterfly.


25 posted on 10/15/2010 6:57:42 AM PDT by madison10
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Just brilliant. They will destroy habitat for how many other species while trying to “save the butterfly”. I didn’t even know butterflies were endangered.

Smells like a money making scam to me.


26 posted on 10/15/2010 6:59:38 AM PDT by justsaynomore (We've got some altering and abolishing to do! - H. Cain)
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Didn’t they just clear out a herd of turtles for a solar power plant with biologists running amok in an attempt to catch those speedy reptilians?

Why can’t they get those same biologists together to catch all those endangered butterflies?


31 posted on 10/15/2010 7:20:13 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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