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Clinton Aide Wanted Iraq to Shoot Down US Plane
Newser ^ | Oct 15, 2010 | John Johnson

Posted on 10/15/2010 2:03:48 PM PDT by george76

In 1997, one of Bill Clinton's Cabinet members suggested that Shelton order a US plane to fly low over Baghdad so Saddam would shoot it down and, ta da, give America instant justification for war. "I was so mad I was about to explode," recounts Shelton, thinking about the sacrificial pilot.

“Why, of course we can,” he responded. "Just as soon as we get your ass qualified to fly it, I will have it flown just as low and slow as you want to go.” The memoir doesn't name the Cabinet member, but Elliott notes that the way the passage is written leaves Madeleine Albright as a distinct possibility.

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1 posted on 10/15/2010 2:03:51 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Albright. Like she would sacrifice anything for this country. Dictator-loving swine, she is.


2 posted on 10/15/2010 2:06:53 PM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: george76

>> “Why, of course we can,” he responded. “Just as soon as we get your ass qualified to fly it, I will have it flown just as low and slow as you want to go.”

Hah.

SnakeDoc


3 posted on 10/15/2010 2:08:33 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum -- If you wish for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: jazusamo; BIGLOOK; Grampa Dave; SJackson; Lancey Howard; LucyT; USNBandit; F15Eagle; Jeff Head; ...

The official ( Madeleine Albright ? ) reeled back and immediately the smile disappeared. “I knew I should not have asked that....”

“No, you should not have,” I strongly agreed, still shocked at the disrespect and sheer audacity of the question. “Remember, there is one of our great Americans flying that U-2, and you are asking me to intentionally send him or her to their death

http://www.salon.com/news/iraq/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/10/15/clinton_official_iraq_hugh_shelton


4 posted on 10/15/2010 2:10:57 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Sam's Army
Dictator-loving swine, she is.


5 posted on 10/15/2010 2:11:34 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: george76

Probably another Washington a’hole who thought Iraq was doable, we would be welcomed and oil would pay for it all.


6 posted on 10/15/2010 2:12:56 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Gondring

I’ll always remember the time Kim thought Half-bright was the cleaning lady. Classic.


7 posted on 10/15/2010 2:18:25 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone
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To: Sam's Army

The bookies would favor Albright, but if this fell during one of the particularly more egregious Clinton scandals, Blumenthal would be accepatable as a long-shot.


8 posted on 10/15/2010 2:18:40 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: george76
They don't call her Madeline Halfbright for nothin'.

Regards,

TS

9 posted on 10/15/2010 2:19:06 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: george76
"Why, of course we can,” [General Sheldon] responded. "Just as soon as we get your ass qualified to fly it, I will have it flown just as low and slow as you want to go."

Do we still have Generals like this?

10 posted on 10/15/2010 2:21:25 PM PDT by bvw
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To: The Shrew
“They don't call her Madeline Halfbright for nothin’.
Regards,

TS “

I use Mad Halfbright for short!

11 posted on 10/15/2010 2:21:31 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: george76
B-b-but... but... Bush/Cheney were still behind 9/11 !!

/s

12 posted on 10/15/2010 2:22:50 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Maddie Halfwit works just as well. We all know who we're talkin' bout.

Regards,

TS

13 posted on 10/15/2010 2:23:12 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: george76

LOL!

Yeah, Alldumb sounds right.


14 posted on 10/15/2010 2:23:49 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: george76

Nothing about that incompetent witch would surprise me but anyone saying that should have immediately told it was time to spend more time with their family.


15 posted on 10/15/2010 2:25:20 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: MichaelCorleone
I’ll always remember the time Kim thought Half-bright was the cleaning lady. Classic.

Actually, I don't think you will...since it was the Albanians, not Kim. :-)

16 posted on 10/15/2010 2:27:14 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: george76

Madame Halfbright, who would be surprised?


17 posted on 10/15/2010 2:30:17 PM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: george76

But it was Bush who is the war criminal?


18 posted on 10/15/2010 2:31:58 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: george76
Shelton order a US plane to fly low over Baghdad so Saddam would shoot it down and, ta da, give America instant justification for war.

And the left talks about GW conjuring up a war for oil. Everyone should know and understand that ANYTHING the left accuses conservative of doing/saying is a reflection of their own behavior.

19 posted on 10/15/2010 2:41:20 PM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: george76

And Shelton is bashing Rumsfeld as the worst Def. Sec. ever?????????????


20 posted on 10/15/2010 2:46:18 PM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: george76

If it’s the truth, why doesn’t he name the person?


21 posted on 10/15/2010 2:51:06 PM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: george76

I had some inside info on Albright during the Kosovo war. This sounds very similar to her attitude then.


22 posted on 10/15/2010 2:51:23 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Gondring
An oldie but goody for Mad Notsobright

1:33 youtube - Zucker's ad featuring halfbite and kim

23 posted on 10/15/2010 2:52:29 PM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the world safe for Marxism)
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To: george76

The basic rule that governs the thinking of all Socialists/Marxists - The ends always justify the means.

This so-called piece of human excrement that made this suggestion should be prosecuted for attempted murder.


24 posted on 10/15/2010 3:19:02 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: 1rudeboy
"but if this fell during one of the particularly more egregious Clinton scandals, Blumenthal would be accepatable as a long-shot."

I could see Blumenthal saying something like this, but he wasn't a cabinet member, so that narrows the playing field.

25 posted on 10/15/2010 3:27:51 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: george76
Just imagine the other contrived maneuvers that were suggested. I would have liked to be a fly in that room.
26 posted on 10/15/2010 3:30:35 PM PDT by granite (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. - TJ)
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To: granite
I just can't wrap my hands around the concept that we live in a country where the "wag the dog" administrations believe that wars need to be provoked by an orchestrated deception against another country. We had more than enough valid reasons to go to Iraq. We need to quit putting on a show.
27 posted on 10/15/2010 3:37:01 PM PDT by granite (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. - TJ)
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To: george76
stooopid traitorous cow... and ugly enough to be helln thomass's sister!!!
28 posted on 10/15/2010 3:46:04 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: All

evil....


29 posted on 10/15/2010 3:49:26 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: DTogo

Saddam shot at our Pilots for 8 years under Clinton, America already had justification for war.


30 posted on 10/15/2010 4:49:04 PM PDT by Son House (Democrats Starve The Private Sector, Yet Expect The Economy To Grow. The Recovery to Nowhere!)
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To: ex-snook

@ex-snook

Only people that call it Washington are a-holes, and we were welcomed, and oil has helped Iraq immensely. Any more pithy posts?


31 posted on 10/15/2010 5:04:35 PM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight (purple durple lips)
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To: george76

yep it could be Madeleine Albright ...she really has an ass


32 posted on 10/15/2010 5:09:03 PM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie

But we don’t have an aircraft with that wide of a cockpit to fit it. If we did, Saddam would have accused us of using ugly bombs against them.


33 posted on 10/15/2010 5:24:51 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks george76. What's the name of the memoir?
The memoir doesn't name the Cabinet member, but Elliott notes that the way the passage is written leaves Madeleine Albright as a distinct possibility.

34 posted on 10/15/2010 5:43:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Without Hesitation: Odyssey of an American Warrior
35 posted on 10/15/2010 7:27:35 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (King: I have a DREAM today! 0bama: I'll have ICE CREAM today!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

ping-a-ling


36 posted on 10/15/2010 8:00:12 PM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....PLEASE donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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To: Hunton Peck

Thanks. Right after I asked, I actually got off my (virtual) duff and went out and located it. Thanks again.


37 posted on 10/15/2010 8:20:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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Without Hesitation: The Odyssey of an American Warrior Without Hesitation:
The Odyssey of an American Warrior

by General Hugh Shelton
with Ronald Levinson
and Malcolm McConnell

Kindle Edition
Abridged CD Audiobook
Abridged Audible Audiobook


38 posted on 10/15/2010 8:21:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: george76

could we please get Shrillary to fly a plane low and slow over Tehran?

when they shoot it down we’d have the excuse to obliterate their nuclear program and regime

ooops, Obozo would just thank them and apologize again for American sins


39 posted on 10/15/2010 9:37:00 PM PDT by Enchante ("Baghdad Bob" (aka Robert Gibbs) is the ideal spokestwit for the Demagogue Party)
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To: george76
That would have been one hell of a pre-mission briefing for the lucky pilot. “By order of the President, you are to get shot down as a pretext to justify further intervention by the US Government”.

I am utterly convinced that today's brass wouldn't hesitate to run to go carry out such a disgusting treasonous order—especially in light of all the problems with the Air Force leadership and the Army Chief of Staff's remarks about favoring diversity over security (to please his political masters).

Would you accept such orders or would you go ballistic? At what point to you question authority? Especially when you know your leaders are traitors and are complicit in treason against the people and Constitution!

40 posted on 10/15/2010 11:22:20 PM PDT by Tea Party Reveler
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To: TigersEye

Interesting.


41 posted on 10/15/2010 11:50:24 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted and used against you)
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To: MichaelCorleone

“I’ll always remember the time Kim thought Half-bright was the cleaning lady. Classic.”

I don’t know about that but, according to Half-Bright, he liked her boobs. IIRC, the way her story goes is that she told him she needed a place for her pins to rest.

Not that I don’t believe that was a total fabrication on her part...


42 posted on 10/16/2010 12:18:58 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: pandoraou812

Disgusting. And believable.


43 posted on 10/16/2010 12:40:59 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: ex-snook

Iraq has been a dobale since we ended WWII, no guts have been in office willing to do it


44 posted on 10/16/2010 3:54:36 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: george76

bump


45 posted on 10/16/2010 7:44:49 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: george76
Old formula, goes back at least as far as giving Gary Powers only half the hydrogen load for his jet fuel so his U2 was able to be "given" to Russia "just in time" to ruin Ike's Peace Summit.

Cold War "velly profitable 'renture".

46 posted on 10/16/2010 8:29:08 AM PDT by yesca (..belief is the enemy)
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To: yesca

Peace is only profitable for peasants.


47 posted on 10/16/2010 9:19:33 AM PDT by yesca (..belief is the enemy)
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To: Gondring
I’ll always remember the time Kim thought Half-bright was the cleaning lady. Classic.

Actually, I don't think you will...since it was the Albanians, not Kim. :-)


Actually it was a Serb woman who saw her from a balcony window during a “Peace” conference. The poor woman was scared out of her wits, in her initial reaction she thought AB was a real witch — AB was dressed in all black with one of those large hats she favored.

The Albanians were the muslim allies (KLA) of AB, since she was of Albanian descent.

48 posted on 10/16/2010 10:03:32 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: anniegetyourgun
But it was Bush who is the war criminal?

Not until he assumed the Presidency after Clinton's term expired. Until then Clinton could do no wrong no matter how many innocent Serbs he ordered killed to save his buddies in the KLA — mostly Al Quaida operatives working out of the criminal enterprise called Albania - former Nazi allies with their own local SS battalions.

49 posted on 10/16/2010 10:08:26 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: PIF
Al Quaida=Al CIAda
50 posted on 10/16/2010 10:33:18 AM PDT by yesca (..belief is the enemy)
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