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I Saw This, But Won't Say Where
Personal Account | 21/10/10 | Eleutheria5

Posted on 10/21/2010 10:27:49 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

Somewhere between the Jordanian border and the Green Line, we'll call it Kiryat M'uyamim, night before last, IDF/Police officers rousted out two families at 3 a.m. Their belongings were cast out and tractors and bulldozers destroyed the small hovels that they had built with their own hands. There was no advance warning of this. Neighbors took the unfortunate families in, and the next day everyone went to work. I was in Kiryat M'uyamim last night. At dark, a cement mixer descended the hill towards Kiryat M'uyamim, along with a procession of several small cars. My wife, young son and I followed them down the hill and quickly got a ride. On the smaller, adjacent hill of Kiryat M'uyamim, on a ledge further down an embankment, a small flat area had been smoothed over, marked off with rope, enclosed within a makeshift partition of boards and rocks, and the floor of the enclosed area covered with a network of rebar, some of it straight, some of it bent into odd shapes. A chute was set up under the cement mixer, and a crowd of men, boys and women gathered round, waiting for the cement to pour. Those men with long boots on waited with gardening hoes, plastic buckets, broad swaths of plywood and other makeshift tools. The concrete poured, and the men in the boots hastened to spread the mixture evenly throughout the enclosure. Slowly the enclosure filled up with the cement, and one of the men took off his boots and told the older boys to line up and each take a turn spreading. The boys whooped with excitement, and lined up, eagerly taking off their shoes. My son was in the back of the line, because he's only eight. Some boys had to be repeatedly ordered to give the next one a turn, so absorbed were they with the work. Women filmed the progress with digital cameras. Before all the boys got a turn, however, the cement truck pulled away and two men with a large plank and two long handles took over, meticulously plumbing the fresh-poured mixture, trying to give it an even consistency. The entire undertaking lasted for about an hour, during which a military-green jeep with a light on its roof hovered around on the road above us. People still watched, but nearby one of the residents, a musician, also under threat, was going to give a free concert in protest against the bulldozing, so my son and I finally climbed up the embankment and waited for the show to begin.

My son asked me if what we had witnessed was like when he stands up to bullies at school. I told him that it was the very same thing, only the bullies are bigger, and their threats are much more real.

I'll stand with those dispossessed families any day, and help lay foundations with them any night.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bulldozed; israel; judahandshomron; settlers; westbank
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This kind of news doesn't happen on TV. Officially, it probably doesn't even exist. But I know better. Last night I was there.
1 posted on 10/21/2010 10:27:54 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

Wha...?


2 posted on 10/21/2010 10:33:23 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Eleutheria5

I hope they waited for the cement tor dry before moving in...........


3 posted on 10/21/2010 10:33:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE MEGHAN MCCAIN A BOX OF KRISPY KREMES SO SHE'LL SHUT THE HELL UP?!)
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To: Eleutheria5

OK ...

Interesting anecdote.

so this was an

(a) Jewish family, displaced for Arabs
(b) Jewish family, displaced for Jewish family
(c) Arab/Palestinian family, displaced for Jewish family
(d) Arab family displaced for an Jordanian family
(e) Christian family, displaced for a Jewish family.
(f) other ____________

Who, what, why, when, where are your friends, as are paragraph breaks.


4 posted on 10/21/2010 10:34:31 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Eleutheria5

I’m glad I don’t live in that hellhole.


5 posted on 10/21/2010 10:35:32 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Eleutheria5

Don’s stand in front of a D-9.


6 posted on 10/21/2010 10:35:33 AM PDT by zek157
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To: Red Badger

It’ll take a while before they can move in, and remember there were two families. In the interim, they stay by neighbors.


7 posted on 10/21/2010 10:36:02 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: Eleutheria5
If it was sand fleas, displaced by the rightful Jewish landowners, I say great! You should have helped them pour the cement.
8 posted on 10/21/2010 10:39:37 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Eleutheria5

IBTZ


9 posted on 10/21/2010 10:40:58 AM PDT by laker_dad
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To: Eleutheria5

So these were Palestinian families rousted from illegal settlements? Why was this action taken at 3 AM? Security measures?


10 posted on 10/21/2010 10:41:03 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Blueflag

Jewish families displaced for the hell of it. The hill in question is nowhere near any Arab settlement of any kind. There is some sort of a dubious Arab claim to the hill, but if Jews hadn’t started building on the hill, they wouldn’t have given a damn about it. Now I suppose this action will be used to show Bibi’s good faith at the piece summit, but nobody will be impressed.

“Who, what, why, when, where are your friends, as are paragraph breaks.”

No, they’re your friends. I was just relating what I saw. Everyone’s a literary critic.


11 posted on 10/21/2010 10:41:27 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: Eleutheria5

So were the people allegedly dispossessed so called “palestinians”?
[Remember, there honestly is no such bird.]


12 posted on 10/21/2010 10:42:03 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Soothesayer9

I pray to one day be worthy to shine the shoes of the people who live there.


13 posted on 10/21/2010 10:42:31 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: Eleutheria5

SO, the IDF are the bullies picking on the Palestinians? Was this inside Israel?


14 posted on 10/21/2010 10:43:04 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Eleutheria5

IBTZ???????


15 posted on 10/21/2010 10:43:14 AM PDT by Mr. K (MORE COWBELL)
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To: worst-case scenario

No. Jews. Displaced by agents of the Jewish State to appease Palestinians/Obama. Ask the IDF why they did this at 3 a.m.


16 posted on 10/21/2010 10:44:33 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: Eleutheria5

me too...

I mean hope you are worthy to one day shine shoes...


17 posted on 10/21/2010 10:44:56 AM PDT by Mr. K (MORE COWBELL)
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To: Eleutheria5
Their belongings were cast out and tractors and bulldozers destroyed the small hovels that they had built with their own hands.

Did they own the property or not?

18 posted on 10/21/2010 10:45:44 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: Eleutheria5

Not all “settlements” are equal, I guess. I suppose some will be abbandoned at some point, for something in return.(?) . In any event, I sympathize with Bibi.


19 posted on 10/21/2010 10:46:22 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: nuconvert

“SO, the IDF are the bullies picking on the Palestinians?” No, on Jews. “Was this inside Israel?” Yes, in Judah and Shomron.


20 posted on 10/21/2010 10:46:48 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: usurper

“Did they own the property or not?”

Go talk to their lawyer. What do you want from me?


21 posted on 10/21/2010 10:48:12 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Formatted for easier reading...

Somewhere between the Jordanian border and the Green Line, we'll call it Kiryat M'uyamim, night before last, IDF/Police officers rousted out two families at 3 a.m. Their belongings were cast out and tractors and bulldozers destroyed the small hovels that they had built with their own hands. There was no advance warning of this. Neighbors took the unfortunate families in, and the next day everyone went to work.

I was in Kiryat M'uyamim last night. At dark, a cement mixer descended the hill towards Kiryat M'uyamim, along with a procession of several small cars. My wife, young son and I followed them down the hill and quickly got a ride.

On the smaller, adjacent hill of Kiryat M'uyamim, on a ledge further down an embankment, a small flat area had been smoothed over, marked off with rope, enclosed within a makeshift partition of boards and rocks, and the floor of the enclosed area covered with a network of rebar, some of it straight, some of it bent into odd shapes. A chute was set up under the cement mixer, and a crowd of men, boys and women gathered round, waiting for the cement to pour.

Those men with long boots on waited with gardening hoes, plastic buckets, broad swaths of plywood and other makeshift tools. The concrete poured, and the men in the boots hastened to spread the mixture evenly throughout the enclosure. Slowly the enclosure filled up with the cement, and one of the men took off his boots and told the older boys to line up and each take a turn spreading.

The boys whooped with excitement, and lined up, eagerly taking off their shoes. My son was in the back of the line, because he's only eight. Some boys had to be repeatedly ordered to give the next one a turn, so absorbed were they with the work. Women filmed the progress with digital cameras.

Before all the boys got a turn, however, the cement truck pulled away and two men with a large plank and two long handles took over, meticulously plumbing the fresh-poured mixture, trying to give it an even consistency. The entire undertaking lasted for about an hour, during which a military-green jeep with a light on its roof hovered around on the road above us.

People still watched, but nearby one of the residents, a musician, also under threat, was going to give a free concert in protest against the bulldozing, so my son and I finally climbed up the embankment and waited for the show to begin.

My son asked me if what we had witnessed was like when he stands up to bullies at school. I told him that it was the very same thing, only the bullies are bigger, and their threats are much more real.

I'll stand with those dispossessed families any day, and help lay foundations with them any night.

22 posted on 10/21/2010 10:49:11 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Yoiks...and away!!)
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To: Eleutheria5
Ummm, ok, thanks for the "facts" about this incident that happened "somewhere", and occurred for "some reason", and it's good to know that these "facts" can be fully accepted because you "saw it happen".

I think I need to print out your "report" and burn it slowly, and maybe it will overcome the Trollish smell that's suddenly in the air.

23 posted on 10/21/2010 10:49:54 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: Eleutheria5
You are relating what you saw WITHOUT the necessary context.

IDF = Israeli Defense Forces (for those of you in Rio Linda).

They dispossessed an Israeli family at 3 am to pursue an illusory “peace” with the people who openly proclaim and teach their children that they want all of them to die.

Who: IDF and Israeli settlers.
What: Dispossessed them of their homes.
Why: Because they want “peace” with people who want them dead.
When: Last night.
Where: You are not saying.

Write better next time. Is English not your fist language?

24 posted on 10/21/2010 10:49:54 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Eleutheria5

Well, gee.. you see, that is pertinant info that should have been included in the body of the post!


25 posted on 10/21/2010 10:50:48 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Mr. K

You need to read more carefully. The IDF was “resettling” Jews, presumably to appease Obambi and his cohort of Anti-Semitic Europhiles.


26 posted on 10/21/2010 10:50:50 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Mr. K

“me too...

I mean hope you are worthy to one day shine shoes...”

That’s very big of you, considering the many years you’ve been trying to get a job shining shoes.


27 posted on 10/21/2010 10:51:05 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: Nonstatist

“In any event, I sympathize with Bibi.”

That makes one of us.


28 posted on 10/21/2010 10:52:54 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: Eleutheria5

oho! you are so witty, yes I too hope one day to be doing shining of the shoes

It has been so many years of studying to be such high acheievment

Then I can throw them at you!

HA HA I are so witty in return yes? You must be admitting this.


29 posted on 10/21/2010 10:54:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (MORE COWBELL)
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To: Eleutheria5

Hang in there. I firmly believ there will be a new and improved US government in 2013


30 posted on 10/21/2010 10:56:16 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Eleutheria5

And so, here in America, if you don’t pay your water bill, your water gets turned off... you can only live three days without water. Are water company’s evil? Same goes for all other utilities.

If you don’t pay property taxes, the state has a right to kick you out and sell your house for back taxes... Is the state evil? Most would say, “depends on who, R or D, is running the ship of state.

If you don’t pay your rent or mortgage, guess what happens then and who is the evil one? The point is, no one has a real property right anymore, except the state... we all are just paying rent. Whether its the IDF, the USA or USSR (I mean Russia), we are all just renting.


31 posted on 10/21/2010 10:57:18 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Eleutheria5
No. Jews. Displaced by agents of the Jewish State to appease Palestinians/Obama. Ask the IDF why they did this at 3 a.m.

Well, now you are beginning to dispel the Trollish smell, by slowly "adding" to your report.

Suggest next time that you delay posting long enough to ensure that you have enough information in your post to enable FReepers to understand what happened, why it happened, who it was done to, who it was done by, why you would be withholding information, etc.

32 posted on 10/21/2010 10:58:19 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: Col Freeper

“Ummm, ok, thanks for the “facts” about this incident that happened “somewhere”, and occurred for “some reason”, and it’s good to know that these “facts” can be fully accepted because you “saw it happen”.”

I already gave the reasons repeatedly. Jewish “settlers” rousted out at 3 a.m. to wreck their homes to impress either: 1. Obama (hah!) 2. Palestinians (double hah!) 3. or both. I am keeping the location to myself so as to avoid this being seen by the wrong people and causing a further visitation from the bulldozers/tractors, who will then ruin last night’s work.

“I think I need to print out your “report” and burn it slowly, and maybe it will overcome the Trollish smell that’s suddenly in the air.”

Well, don’t eat so many beans, and you won’t pass gas so suddenly.


33 posted on 10/21/2010 11:00:58 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: Nonstatist

Can someone figure out whatr this thread is all about?


34 posted on 10/21/2010 11:01:43 AM PDT by Mr. K (MORE COWBELL)
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To: Eleutheria5

You probably could have written that better, thus avoiding the confusion that is clear by the ensuing comments.

Basic journalism: who, what, when, where, why, and how much?


35 posted on 10/21/2010 11:02:26 AM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Write to be understood. Thanks.


36 posted on 10/21/2010 11:03:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Darksheare

OK. Belatedly I included it. I have sinned. I left out pertinent information from the body of a post and supplemented it later. Shrive me, shrive me, holy man...


37 posted on 10/21/2010 11:04:27 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: Eleutheria5
This kind of news doesn't happen on TV

The boys whooped with excitement, and lined up, eagerly taking off their shoes. My son was in the back of the line, because he's only eight. Some boys had to be repeatedly ordered to give the next one a turn, so absorbed were they with the work

Cement pouring? Gee, I wonder why?

38 posted on 10/21/2010 11:04:50 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: Eleutheria5

You did NOT say they were Jewish settlers which gave the impression you were speaking about Palestinians.
Hence why people questioned you.


39 posted on 10/21/2010 11:05:21 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Uhh... It’s not “cement” it’s concrete, and only an idiot would wade around in it without boots on. It will dry out and burn your skin. (At least the good concrete we have will.)


40 posted on 10/21/2010 11:08:15 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Eleutheria5

Belatedly is too late.


41 posted on 10/21/2010 11:08:22 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Theo

Whatever. I’m not a journalist. Do me a favor and witness things yourself. Then you can stun us with your journalistic acumen, and in the mean time I’ll put on blinders until I can go to journalism school.


42 posted on 10/21/2010 11:09:00 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: Mr. K

LOL. Nah, too hard. I think I’ll just meander over to the article on how Michelle Obama is digging up turnips in the WH garden for all the starving children in America.


43 posted on 10/21/2010 11:09:16 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Mr. K

No, you are so lame as to walk right into the comment to which you are responding. Throw your shoes at me, if you have any. Then shine mine.


44 posted on 10/21/2010 11:13:01 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: Eleutheria5

What does being a journalist have to do with simply stating “Hey, the IDF rousted their own people”?
Absolutely nothing.


45 posted on 10/21/2010 11:15:53 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Slump Tester

Well, maybe that’s why they were wearing boots. Sheesh.


46 posted on 10/21/2010 11:16:07 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; dervish; ...

Thanks Eleutheria5.


47 posted on 10/21/2010 11:18:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Eleutheria5; Slump Tester
From your own article:
"and one of the men took off his boots and told the older boys to line up and each take a turn spreading. The boys whooped with excitement, and lined up, eagerly taking off their shoes."

From your post 46:
"that’s why they were wearing boots."

So which is it?

48 posted on 10/21/2010 11:20:29 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare

“You did NOT say they were Jewish settlers which gave the impression you were speaking about Palestinians.
Hence why people questioned you.”

Why, in my prior posts have I been known to attempt to elicit symapthy for Palestinians? And does Kiryat Ayumim sound like the name of an Arab hamlet? Oops. I just misspelled a word up there. Jump all over it, everyone. Good night.


49 posted on 10/21/2010 11:20:50 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: FReepaholic

Thank you for taking the time to format, you’re thoughtful.

Thanks, Eleutheria5 for taking the time to report this story to us, as it’s true...this isn’t what we see on TV or read about in MSM.

Sad state of affairs in the world these days.


50 posted on 10/21/2010 11:21:44 AM PDT by Irenic
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