Posted on 10/24/2010 4:48:32 PM PDT by mandaladon
Women will begin serving on four U.S. submarines in December 2011, the U.S. Navy announced Thursday.
Twenty-four are in training to be the first women to serve aboard U.S. submarines, the Navy's Submarine Group 10 said in a statement. The subs on which they will deploy are the USS Wyoming and USS Georgia, both homeported in Kings Bay, Georgia, and the USS Ohio and USS Maine, homeported in Bangor, Washington.
The Navy said it will not identify the women until they have completed their submarine training. The 24, chosen from graduates of the U.S. Naval Academy, ROTC programs and Officer Candidate School, began their training in July, the military said.
Three women will serve aboard each sub at any one time, two as submarine officers and one as a supply officer. The subs have crews of 154. The Wyoming and Maine are ballistic-missile submarines and the Ohio and Georgia are armed with cruise missiles. Each of the submarines has two separate crews - known as the blue and gold crews - that rotate duty time so the subs can spend the maximum amount of time at sea.
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Mullen: U.S. Military Needs More Diversity
DEFENSE.gov (AMERICAN FORCES PRESS SERVICE) ^ | October 18, 2010 | by Karen Parrish
Posted on October 20, 2010 2:42:02 AM PDT by Cindy
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Mullen: U.S. Military Needs More Diversity
By Karen Parrish American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Oct. 18, 2010 – The armed services “can’t go fast enough” to increase diversity, Navy Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a group of senior military leaders here yesterday.
Navy Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, addresses the Air Force Diversity Senior Leader Working Group at the Doubletree Hotel in Crystal City, Va. on Oct. 17, 2010. DOD photo by Navy Petty Officer 1st Class Chad J. McNeeley
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Mullen addressed the Air Force Diversity Senior Working Group, comprised of Air Force senior leaders including more than 50 general officers who were attending a two-day working group aimed at increasing diversity across the armed forces.
Bolstering diversity across the military requires fast, direct action, Mullen told the group.
“There isn’t anybody sitting in this room … who won’t look back 10 years from now and say, ‘I wish we could have gone faster,’” the chairman said. “There are some things we should have done better, more risks we should have taken to get this right. And the demographics are pretty daunting.” Mullen said his boyhood in small-town, middle-class California didn’t show him much of the world. When he came home for a few weeks of vacation in August 1965 after his first year at the U.S. Naval Academy, he saw the Watts section of Los Angeles aflame with race riots.
“I’m 15 miles from Watts, and it is burning down,” he said.
The 1960s and 1970s put a glaring light on race and civil rights issues in America and the American military. As a young military officer, Mullen said, he learned early to focus on people’s individual capabilities.
“Even back then, from my perspective, what I was trying to do was put the best talent together to get the job done,” Mullen said.
When he became chief of Naval Operations in 2005, Mullen said, he made diversity a priority.
“When you’re taking on a very, very difficult challenge like this and trying to change your institution, you can’t go fast enough,” he said.
Mullen said he focused his diversity goals for the Navy on two areas: minorities and women.
“That’s where the leadership was really critical, and we were not doing very well,” he said.
Now, Mullen said, the Navy has a number of female one-star officers who are competitive for the future.
“We know how to make [general officers],” he said. “We’ve been doing it a long time, and it’s actually pretty simple. You put them in the right jobs, and if they do well, they get promoted. And a really interesting dynamic that was going on in the Navy in 2005, Mullen said, was: “Who is putting people in jobs?”
When he looked into it, Mullen said he found that the people making officer assignments for the “hot” career paths were white males.
“There certainly wasn’t much of a path for those that couldn’t break through. Almost overnight, once I knew that, and we started to diversify our assignment officers … all of a sudden, records that were just as good as any other records started surfacing,” he said.
His senior leaders regularly reported to him on their progress in increasing diversity, Mullen said.
“We measured ourselves on that … and if there were senior officers that weren’t doing this, they were leaving,” he said. Mullen said he now keeps a magazine on his desk with a cover photo of three Navy three-star admirals, all black, so that everyone who visits his office can see it.
“Three or four years ago, you didn’t see that [senior-level diversity] in the Navy,” Mullen said. Today’s minority role models, he said, provide important examples of success to young military officers.
Without such role models “you’re not going to make it, no matter what programs we have or how much we talk about it,” the admiral said.
The drive for diversity in the military is talent-driven, Mullen said. Shortly after he became chief of Naval Operations, he recalled addressing a diversity conference comprised primarily of young officers. Mullen thought he had a strong message for them, but his message came back at him during the question-and-answer period.
“This young Coast Guard ensign asked me, ‘What about that all white-male staff you just walked in here with?’” Mullen said. Two years after hearing that ensign’s question, the admiral said he gathered his personal staff.
“I stood back from that and looked … and I think I was the only white guy in the room,” Mullen said. “It was all women and minorities. And what really struck me that day was how disappointed I was in myself that it took me so long. Because this was the best talent, the most talent, I’d ever seen in a room … person by person.”
Diversity is all about opportunity, Mullen said.
“This is not about bias or anything like that. This is: ‘Here’s the job, here’s your opportunity — sink or swim,’” he said. “There was way too much not getting the opportunities, for whatever reason: institutional, systematic, how we were assigning people, you name it. It just wasn’t going on. And again, we know how to do this, because we know what it takes to get promoted in our system.”
The military services and the officer ranks cannot remain effective if they veer away from the nation’s demographic makeup, Mullen said. By 2040 or 2050, he said, white males will become a minority segment of the U.S. population. But the service academies, which last year graduated the flag-officer class of 2040, do not reflect that reality in their current class enrollments, which are less than 50 percent — and in some cases less than 25 percent — minorities and women.
“The leadership has got to think about it, from my perspective, along those lines,” Mullen said. “And then be very hard on ourselves: Are we making progress?”
Increasing diversity within the Defense Department’s military and civilian workforces isn’t magic, Mullen said.
“It’s a lot of hard work,” he said, noting increasing diversity requires commitment by the leadership.
“And, more importantly,” he continued, “the opportunity for us as a military to just grow stronger and stronger and stronger, which we must do over the course of the next 10, 20, 30 years.”
The American military, like American industry, has to work harder to increase diversity, the chairman said.
“There are a lot of things we can learn in terms of those who have done this before,” Mullen said. “In the end, for us, I think it’s going to come down to some very basic things.”
Biographies: Navy Adm. Mike Mullen
“We have to clean our institutions of the Marxist thinking if we are ever going to recognize this great country again.”
You nailed it, susie!
Run silent, run deep.
Wifee strongly agrees.
Screw diversity - I’m a big fan of simplicity and uniformity when it comes to things that must be reliable and function as trouble free as possible.
That would apply to military organizationa as well as their equuipment.
Why introduce needless complications with the potential to reduce military effectiveness?
I was hoping that the terrible results the Navy has seen from placing females on surface ships would have prevented them from applying the policy to subs but it seems even our military leadership is losing its judgement.
Will they be converting the torpedo room to a nursery or just cut their cruises short to offload the pregnant females?
OK.... who is maintaining the betting pool on who gets pregnant first?
Wait until we lose a sub to hitting an uncharted volcanic sea mount or something because two “crew-persons” on watch are “doing something else”!
Also when a section is flooding and power is out and you have to use raw strength to close a bulkhead door. Then whoops this female “crew-person” only has 40% of the strength of a male “crew-person” all that egalitarianism goes is useless once you slip past crush depth.
Madness.
I suppose now we’ll have “son of a torpedo” and “son of a missile”. That’s really not funny unless one has an understanding of “son of a gun”.
Of course I agree with you because I’m pro-America and pro-U.S. Military.
America is in decline right now and that is totally unfortunate (understatement).
Regardless of how badly this goes down, it will be papered over.
“The Poop Deck”.
“Going Down Under”
“The Perfect Storm”
“I Spent 4 Years at the Naval Academy, but Queers and Women took my spot on the boat”
Mush Mullen is doing his best tap dance. Just how do you think men of his “talent” end up at the top? It is more than just the peter principle—it is ought and ought hard work being slavishly devoted to dancing at the end of the dacowits and other puzzle palace infested pc give us ours social justice demanding groups puppet strings.
But it is entertaining to watch the brass rush to the rail to salute and yessssireeee maam the gathered pencil necked idols of DC. It seems likely the newly proud homosexuals and gals will be tussling onboard for the same sailors. What a hoot Henry.
This helps nothing and disrupts everything.
Hot racks
Brushing by in close quarters
The scent of a woman all over the boat(constant boner time)
Showers
Constant sexual harassment charges
Supplies(what happens if they run out of tampons and kotex in some special extended situation)
Everything will have to be changed and for what benefit? This is going to be a mess.
Man, I feel sorry for the guy they blow shitters on with women aboard
I think it will fail. JMO
It should be easy to do on the large tridents as they have 9 man mini bunking areas between the tubes. Just make one up for the three women.
They will have plenty of room for their shoes.
They should also be stone cold ugly.
That way, the A gangers will have a chance...
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