Posted on 10/28/2010 5:49:06 AM PDT by syc1959
Never, ever happened.
Do you have a source/link for your information?
That report is standard Newsweak bullshit!
You’ll notice your Newsweak story provides no source,no link, no documentation — just more ObamaBullshit.
Since you are Obama’s water-carrier here, I’m not at all surprised that you pulled it out.
There is much confusion surrounding the date of Obama’s conversion. Newspaper reports place this event in 1988. On Fox News, March 14th, 2007, Obama himself placed this even in 1992, but continues to say he’s been a Christian for 20 years — you figure it out.
Nobody, except Obama knows if his conversion to Christianity is real or not. Although some reports and even Obama have referred to a “baptism”, there doesn’t appear to be any record of a baptism.
Chicago-based journalist, broadcaster and critic Andy Martin, when asked about Obama’s baptism, wrote, “I have never been able to obtain any evidence that he was baptized, although I asked for those records.”
It seems that Obama’s conversion occurred when he answered one of Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright’s altar calls by walking down the aisle of Trinity Church to make a formal commitment of his faith.
Cathleen Falsani, religion columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times, writes, “He (Obama) described his conversion experience in his mid-20s, how he walked the aisle at Trinity United Church of Christ one Sunday in a public affirmation of his private change of heart.”
“I came to Christianity through the black church tradition where the line between evangelical and non-evangelical is completely blurred. Nobody knows exactly what it means.”
“Does it mean that you feel you’ve got a personal relationship with Christ the savior? Then that’s directly part of the black church experience. Does it mean you’re born-again in a classic sense, with all the accoutrements that go along with that, as it’s understood by some other tradition? I’m not sure.”
“There are aspects of Christian tradition that I’m comfortable with and aspects that I’m not. There are passages of the Bible that make perfect sense to me and others that I go, ‘Ya know, I’m not sure about that.’”
“It wasn’t an epiphany,” he says of that public profession of faith. “It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them.... I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me.”
The specifically political character of his new church is what drew Obama out of his skeptical isolation and into religion. Obama wrote::
“But as the months passed in Chicago, I found myself drawn to the church.”
“For one thing, I believed and still believe in the power of African-American religious tradition to spur social change . . . the black church understands in an intimate way the biblical call to feed the hungry and cloth the naked and challenge the powers and principalities . . . I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death; it is an active, palpable agent in the world. It is a source of hope.”
“It was because of these newfound understandings that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and affirm my Christian faith.”
In other words, Obama’s membership at Trinity UCC resulted from his familiarity with Wright’s political views. Even Obama’s phrase “challenge the powers and principalities” is a particular favorite of black-liberation theologists.
Falsani warns us that Obama’s walking the aisle at Trinity is poles apart from what Christians commonly refer to as being “saved, transformed or washed in the blood.” In other words, it’s not to be confused with what Jesus called being “born again.” As Mr. Obama himself explains, “It wasn’t an epiphany … but just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me.”
In another account of this event, Manya Brachear, writing in the Chicago Tribune, describes the event thusly: “When Obama sought his own church community, he felt increasingly at home at Trinity. Before leaving for Harvard Law School in 1988, he responded to one of Wright’s altar calls and declared a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
Falsani wonders, “What kind of faith is it that is growing in Barack Obama? Is it the historic Christian faith? Not according to the good senator, who describes his faith as: (1) Suspicious of dogma (2) Without any monopoly on the truth (3) Nontransferable to others (4) Infused with a big healthy dose of doubt, and (5) Indulgent of and compatible with all other religions.”
Unlike traditional Christianity, which Mr. Obama bemoans for its “call to evangelize and proselytize,” the good senator’s faith is strictly a personal and private affair. Although he has no qualms about parading it in public in hopes of bolstering his political career, he would never dream of preaching it to others in hopes of converting them to Christ.
At the core of Obama’s faith — whether lapsed Muslim, new Christian or some mixture of the two — is African nativism. Obama’s having pledged allegiance to the Black Value System raises political issues of its own.
Request for info: If anyone, anywhere, can validate Obama’s baptism, please contact me via email with a source, link or other documentation.
Sources and links here:
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaReligion.htm
Baraq’s hookup with Wright’s deal was for street cred for his political quest, same reason he married a black gal.
I don’t think he’s much of a Muslim either, it’s far too rigorous a sect for a slacker like him.
Hard left materialism is Baraq’s only consistent belief.
He doesn't give a rat's ass about religion except how it will help him pull the wool over the voter's eyes.
Re: “...same reason he married a black gal”
I am getting closer, and closer to pegging this guy as light in the loafers.
There’s too much there.
His professors, his roommates (who all had money and paid the bills), the Man’s Country stuff. The bstories from Chicago’s gay community. Hell, I’ve never put Larry Sinclair’s allegations on my website, but I’m beginning to believe, there may be something there.
But the big thing for me is that no woman or girl has ever, ever come forward to describe “my date with Barack.”
No woman has ever, ever come forward to describe the intense, but short relationship.
Women talk, you know.
That report is standard Newsweak bullshit!
You’ll notice your Newsweak story provides no source,no link, no documentation — just more ObamaBullshit.
Since you are Obama’s water-carrier here, I’m not at all surprised that you pulled it out.
There is much confusion surrounding the date of Obama’s conversion. Newspaper reports place this event in 1988. On Fox News, March 14th, 2007, Obama himself placed this even in 1992, but continues to say he’s been a Christian for 20 years — you figure it out.
Nobody, except Obama knows if his conversion to Christianity is real or not. Although some reports and even Obama have referred to a “baptism”, there doesn’t appear to be any record of a baptism.
Chicago-based journalist, broadcaster and critic Andy Martin, when asked about Obama’s baptism, wrote, “I have never been able to obtain any evidence that he was baptized, although I asked for those records.”
It seems that Obama’s conversion occurred when he answered one of Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright’s altar calls by walking down the aisle of Trinity Church to make a formal commitment of his faith.
Cathleen Falsani, religion columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times, writes, “He (Obama) described his conversion experience in his mid-20s, how he walked the aisle at Trinity United Church of Christ one Sunday in a public affirmation of his private change of heart.”
“I came to Christianity through the black church tradition where the line between evangelical and non-evangelical is completely blurred. Nobody knows exactly what it means.”
“Does it mean that you feel you’ve got a personal relationship with Christ the savior? Then that’s directly part of the black church experience. Does it mean you’re born-again in a classic sense, with all the accoutrements that go along with that, as it’s understood by some other tradition? I’m not sure.”
“There are aspects of Christian tradition that I’m comfortable with and aspects that I’m not. There are passages of the Bible that make perfect sense to me and others that I go, ‘Ya know, I’m not sure about that.’”
“It wasn’t an epiphany,” he says of that public profession of faith. “It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them.... I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me.”
The specifically political character of his new church is what drew Obama out of his skeptical isolation and into religion. Obama wrote::
“But as the months passed in Chicago, I found myself drawn to the church.”
“For one thing, I believed and still believe in the power of African-American religious tradition to spur social change . . . the black church understands in an intimate way the biblical call to feed the hungry and cloth the naked and challenge the powers and principalities . . . I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death; it is an active, palpable agent in the world. It is a source of hope.”
“It was because of these newfound understandings that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and affirm my Christian faith.”
In other words, Obama’s membership at Trinity UCC resulted from his familiarity with Wright’s political views. Even Obama’s phrase “challenge the powers and principalities” is a particular favorite of black-liberation theologists.
Falsani warns us that Obama’s walking the aisle at Trinity is poles apart from what Christians commonly refer to as being “saved, transformed or washed in the blood.” In other words, it’s not to be confused with what Jesus called being “born again.” As Mr. Obama himself explains, “It wasn’t an epiphany … but just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me.”
In another account of this event, Manya Brachear, writing in the Chicago Tribune, describes the event thusly: “When Obama sought his own church community, he felt increasingly at home at Trinity. Before leaving for Harvard Law School in 1988, he responded to one of Wright’s altar calls and declared a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
Falsani wonders, “What kind of faith is it that is growing in Barack Obama? Is it the historic Christian faith? Not according to the good senator, who describes his faith as: (1) Suspicious of dogma (2) Without any monopoly on the truth (3) Nontransferable to others (4) Infused with a big healthy dose of doubt, and (5) Indulgent of and compatible with all other religions.”
Unlike traditional Christianity, which Mr. Obama bemoans for its “call to evangelize and proselytize,” the good senator’s faith is strictly a personal and private affair. Although he has no qualms about parading it in public in hopes of bolstering his political career, he would never dream of preaching it to others in hopes of converting them to Christ.
At the core of Obama’s faith — whether lapsed Muslim, new Christian or some mixture of the two — is African nativism. Obama’s having pledged allegiance to the Black Value System raises political issues of its own.
Request for info: If anyone, anywhere, can validate Obama’s baptism, please contact me via email with a source, link or other documentation.
Sources and links here:
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaReligion.htm
Yet nobody outside the hardcore birther crowd is buyin' it.
That’s not what my ‘private’ comments and emails are saying
Yeah, your reliable credible NEWSWEEK source...
The main stream media has a ability to give us BS all the time 24/7
Once again, if someone doesn’t trust a particular news source, that’s just fine with me but it doesn’t cease being a source just because there are people who don’t accept it as credible.
A source is a source. It is up to the reader to decide if it is credible or not. You have decided that it was not a credible source; so be it.
That Hillbuzz article missed one of the more obvious reasons Obama won’t reveal his birth certificate. It has nothing to do with his father, adoption or ethnicity. The simplest reason is that his original birth certificate does not prove he was born in Hawaii. It may say he was born there, but it is missing appropriate doctor’s signatures, does not state a hospital as the place of birth, and or lists him as born ‘en route’ from a ship or airplane. Second, it likely has his mother’s college address in Seattle listed in addition to his grandmother’s address, the latter of which would have been considered his mother’s ‘permanent’ address while she was in school. In the absence of a doctor’s signature and conflicting addresses, Obama cannot provide any physical/documentary proof to show he was really born in Hawaii as his birth certificate might claim. Chances are good that he may not even know where he was born.
The Istiqlal Mosque in Jakarta, the largest Mosque in Indonesia.
More than 120,000 Muslims can congregate at the Mosque at one time, simultaneously praying to Allah for the death of American Infidels.
Our president will be honored to lead them in their prayers during his vacation from the “Great Satan” . On the agenda will be an hours long apology for gun toting God fearing infidels of America, clinging to their antiquated christian religion and barbaric American culture.
That Hillbuzz article missed one of the more obvious reasons Obama won’t reveal his birth certificate. It has nothing to do with his father, adoption or ethnicity. The simplest reason is that his original birth certificate does not prove he was born in Hawaii. It may say he was born there, but it is missing appropriate doctor’s signatures, does not state a hospital as the place of birth, and or lists him as born ‘en route’ from a ship or airplane. Second, it likely has his mother’s college address in Seattle listed in addition to his grandmother’s address, the latter of which would have been considered his mother’s ‘permanent’ address while she was in school. In the absence of a doctor’s signature and conflicting addresses, Obama cannot provide any physical/documentary proof to show he was really born in Hawaii as his birth certificate might claim. Chances are good that he may not even know where he was born.
If Obama was not born at Kapi’olani Medical Center, as the Governor of Hawai’i has claimed and if he was not deliverd by Dr. Rodney T. West, I find it strange that Kapi’olani would risk the embarrassment of having claimed his birth there in their 100th Anniversary magazine when it could certainly come out later that the information was untrue.
Obama doesn’t have to prove where he was born. The state of Hawai’i has confirmed on a number of different occasions that he was born there and a state official has even declared him to be “a natural born American citizen.”
Obama’s opponents have to prove that there is evidence that he wasn’t born in Hawai’i.
Relax and try to enjoy it.
2011 ... Soebarkah is getting a colonoscopy
Relax and try to enjoy it.
Just to reply to this troll, I can provide a source link that says anything.
However, an unsubstantiated comment from a Newsweak writer is not documentation.
When I ask for a source/link, I expect documentation, and there is ABSOLUTELY NO DOCUMENTATION, ANYWHERE, that Barack Obama has ever been baptized.
And, when you provide me with REAL DOCUMENTATION that Barack Obama was baprized, instead of leftist bullshit rumors, I will donate $200 to Free Republic.
You know, the kind of documentation Danae provided to you — real stuff.
Now go Google your ass off.
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