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Oil rises above $85 after Fed bond buying decision (Bye Bye Dollar)
Yahoo Finance ^ | Thursday November 4, 2010, 2:16 am | AP

Posted on 11/03/2010 11:44:13 PM PDT by 11th_VA

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To: ridesthemiles

The Blue State white liberals might, I say might have enjoyed their last election as the self selected leaders of the Democrats. None of those pasty political turkeys can deliver squat.


41 posted on 11/04/2010 8:07:12 AM PDT by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: henkster
The Fed is not evil.

So, an organization that was designed to enrich the few at the expense of many, and ultimately enslave the many, is not evil?

Earning interest on money that was created from thin air and is backed by debt (less than nothing) is not evil?

"Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike abomination to the LORD. Prov. 20:10"

42 posted on 11/04/2010 8:12:17 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: 11th_VA

I’m surprised the headline wasn’t:

“Oil rises above $85 after major Republicans gains in Congress”


43 posted on 11/04/2010 8:24:18 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

“O and his backers heard well yesterday, but O and his minions have evil intent and that spells the breaking of the US economy, US power, and US capitalism—these are the hallmarks of this administration’s goals.”

Backers, yes. Minions, no. 0 is an empty suit, and a stupid and lazy one at that. His small brain is fertile ground for the ideas of those who are controlling and handling him. He thinks he controls TOTUS, but it controls him. I think he really believes he is saving America, not bankrupting it, because he’s been told that’s what his policies are doing. That’s why he’s so effective as a communicator. He sincerely believes the lies he’s telling because he’s too stupid to realize they are lies.

All the while, his handlers are letting him play Emperor.


44 posted on 11/04/2010 8:25:20 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: November 2010

That would save the $413B in interest .gov paid last year.


45 posted on 11/04/2010 9:03:48 AM PDT by griswold3 (Employment is off-shored, away from govt. regulations, price pressure groups, and liabilities.)
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To: November 2010
It seems to me it is exactly the same as if the US Government printed the money for their spending . . . if so, why do we need the Fed? Why route all this spending into debt and interest payments, and route all the benefit through the banks?

Yes, that's essentially how our Greenbacks were done --- straight issue from the Department of the Treasury, starting long before there was any Federal Reserve.

However, the Kenyan Clown and his circus are just too pig ignorant to know even that amount of financial history.

46 posted on 11/04/2010 9:17:45 AM PDT by snowsislander (In this election year, please ask your candidates if they support repeal of the 1968 GCA.)
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To: 11th_VA

The fed has reduced the value of the dollar. The media will NOT let the public know this. Prices will go up. Simple minded individuals will confuse the rising prices with rising prosperity. Democrats and media types will crow that the economy has recovered.


47 posted on 11/04/2010 10:29:15 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: April Lexington

our local oil delivery co. set my budget payment so high this year I’ve already worked up quite a significant credit.
I was planning on asking them if I could skip December and use the cash for some Christmas shopping.
fat chance of that happening now.

Once again - our gov policy has caused our family to clamp down on ALL spending.


48 posted on 11/04/2010 11:09:25 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: 11th_VA

bump for later


49 posted on 11/04/2010 12:00:41 PM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (Lord Jesus, direct my mind, possess my heart, transform my life)
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To: 11th_VA

Congress had better put a stop to Weimar Germany Ben. He is destroying our dollar, or savings, And much more. All to save his banking buddies.

I wish I had bought lots of Gold.


50 posted on 11/04/2010 12:40:22 PM PDT by Revel
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To: taxtruth

I think that Andrew Jackson would have stormed hte White House and then proceeded to string the entire Administration up.


51 posted on 11/04/2010 1:58:26 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Revel

that would explain the sudden high demand for gold. I run a commodities business and so many people want gold, gold dust, all wanting as much as they can get their hands on.


52 posted on 11/04/2010 2:00:36 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: 11th_VA

Can inflation be far behind?


53 posted on 11/04/2010 2:15:45 PM PDT by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: 11th_VA
and America takes another one in the........
rlmorel

54 posted on 11/04/2010 3:09:05 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Voter Fraud should be a Capital Offense!!!)
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To: Niuhuru

America’s Alarm Clock Has Rung: Time’s Up

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=171263


55 posted on 11/04/2010 3:13:52 PM PDT by Revel
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To: 11th_VA

Anticipating the drop in dollar values I expect


56 posted on 11/04/2010 4:41:43 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: untrained skeptic

The Fed is justifiably concerned about a serious deflationary cycle getting started in America. A deflationary cycle of declining demand, declining inflation, declining interest rates, and declining interest income for savers all leading to even lower demand as consumers wait for lower prices and save more to offset lower interest rates, that kind of deflationary cycle could be disastrous for an economy like ours that has so much fixed-rate mortgage debt and government debt that must be serviced. Bernanke and the Fed governors are smart enough to know how disastrous deflation could be and they know that it must be stopped, even at the risk of inflation rising to 3-4% in the US.

Prices of commodities will rise the most, but outside of food, gasoline, and natural gas, commodities are actually a very small part of the cost of all the other goods and services we buy. Except for food and energy, when you look all the way up the supply chain, personnel costs and corporate income taxes are more than 90% of the cost of everything we buy. So a fairly small devaluation of the dollar is not going to create serious general inflation, because productivity (output per worker) continues to rise while labor markets are extremely soft and labor costs are rising very slowly.

The Fed is doing exactly the right thing here, as long as they don’t overdo it and as long as they know when to stop. They’re working to create a wealth effect to boost consumer spending, home buying, and eventually employment and personal income. A deflationary cycle would be a nasty problem to solve if it became entrenched in the US economy. A deflationary cycle was just starting when the Fed made the decision to do more quantitative easing. You could see the deflationary cycle starting in the huge bond market rally in treasuries and investment grade corporate bonds. Those declining interest rates are great for corporations, but they’re not good for retirees who need more interest income and were being forced to cut back on spending or move savings into higher risk “junk” bonds. That’s not good for our economy—we don’t want interest rates going too low and forcing retirees to spend less and also forcing people saving for retirement to save more because of lower interest rates. The typical person saving for retirement has an income number in mind that he/she wants to have when retired, and most people are not going to adjust that number down because of lower inflation. So they would tend to save more and spend less when interest rates on bonds decline, thereby reducing demand in the economy and adding to the deflationary cycle.

We can go to lower inflation in the long run, but it’s dangerous to deflate rapidly and leave retired people trying to pay fixed rate mortgages with much lower income on their savings. The Fed is putting the brakes on deflation and creating a wealth effect to increase demand, all of which is exactly the right policy at this time. The next step we need is for congress, the White House, and the American people to develop a credible long-term plan to reduce federal budget deficits, including more realistic expectations for entitlement programs by all citizens. People have to understand that the blessing of longer life expectancy has also wrecked the finances of the Social Security program and that program cannot continue to pay out so much money to affluent retirees. Medicare costs are also out of control and have to be reduced substantially. Obamamcare will be a fiscal disaster if not repealed, and that disastrous legislation must be repealed or defunded as soon as possible by the new congress.


57 posted on 11/04/2010 4:52:47 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (He didn't invent fresh-brewed coffee, but he perfected the art of sipping it during tennis warm-up.)
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To: socialism_stinX

In theory, when interest rates decline and the interest income of retirees declines, people with fixed rate mortgages can refinance their mortgages at lower rates to offset the lower interest income. But the problem now is that so many home owners are upside down on their mortgages and cannot refinance without throwing in a large cash payment that they don’t have. So refinancing is very difficult for many people right now, and the Fed governors now this and know how much trouble declining interest income would cause for retirees. The Fed is run by very smart people. God bless ‘em, they’ve done a great job during this financial crisis.


58 posted on 11/04/2010 5:03:41 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (He didn't invent fresh-brewed coffee, but he perfected the art of sipping it during tennis warm-up.)
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To: Rummenigge

There is some pork in defense spending, but the big bucks and the big spending growth in future budgets is in entitlement programs: social security, medicare, medicaid, Obamacare, etc. Our country has to reduce the expectations of citizens for entitlement programs and get the cost of those programs under control. Those are the programs where spending is growing rapidly and is out of control. Defense spending can be reduced significantly too and should also decline as our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan winds down during this decade.


59 posted on 11/04/2010 5:10:00 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (He didn't invent fresh-brewed coffee, but he perfected the art of sipping it during tennis warm-up.)
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To: socialism_stinX

i’ve yet to hear one person (pubbie or dem) thats for this its time for ben to be shown the door


60 posted on 11/04/2010 6:32:48 PM PDT by jneesy (Under Reagan we had Johnny Cash and Bob Hope under Obama we have niether cash nor hope)
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