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'I blame Karl Rove'
STG News ^ | 11/3/10 | William Way, Jr.

Posted on 11/04/2010 4:30:30 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta

There is a singular event that shoved the Republican Senate car over the cliff.

That event was the primary victory of Christine O'Donnell. This morning she used a phrase that is right on the money. That description is "Republican Cannibalism."

I personally hold Karl Rove to blame, followed closely by Senator John Cornyn. Rove is an establishment Progressive Republican of the first order.

Following O'Donnell's message of values victory in Delaware, Rove started slinging mud in her direction because he realized she was a woman that couldn't be bought & sold on a D.C. street corner.

It was Rove who almost exclusively undermined an untested Republican. When challenged, he became entrenched, making it a media story.

Coming out of a surprise primary victory, everyone would obviously be questioning O’Donnell’s candidacy.

It's the "Man Bites Dog" story. Rove turned an opportunity to help create an up-and-coming political star into much less.

The bottom feeder Rove chose for his personal aggrandizement to put blood in the water. The sharks had a feeding frenzy.

The result was that yet another "Traditional Values Candidate" was beaten by her own political party, & the momentum of several other races was slowed.

It gave Reid & others the chance to further paint traditional values candidates as kooks. The Republican cannibalism resulted in the Senate leadership failure to get behind Republican nominees.

The cannibalism by a self-professed REPUBLICAN strategist, wrapped up is his own glory led to lost momentum by MIller, Fiorina (albeit her real defeat was the unfortunate infection), Buck, Angle & Rossi.

His poor choices contributed to a decay of no less than 15 percent-point in Delaware. Had Delaware been advocated by Rove, rather than diminished, today we would be looking at a three-seat Senate majority, & a Republican Governor in CA.

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To: Darkwolf377

There’s no justifying what Rove did to Christine O’Donnell but if you want to toe the party line knock yourself out.


121 posted on 11/04/2010 6:37:06 AM PDT by McGruff (A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Well, you get a 100% liberal over a 50% liberal plus a smaller minority for Republicans.

That makes no sense to me. I’d rather have a chance of someone’s support rather than no chance at all and we needed every seat in the Senate we could get. RINOs included.


122 posted on 11/04/2010 6:38:16 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: sam_paine

You are correct. The Dems loved it.

“True believers” were her only base, and there’s just not enough of them in Delaware to get her elected.

Rove should have kept his mouth shut, but it didn’t affect the voting IMO.


123 posted on 11/04/2010 6:42:21 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I’m from Delaware. I voted for her in both the primaries and the general election. In fact, I voted for her the last election as well. That’s right - this is not the first time she ran. She ran before against Biden in 2008.

She did it without, to my knowledge, any assistance from the Delaware Republican Party, a group of elitists if ever there were any. This pack of idiots were responsible for not providing a viable candidate. Like it was illustrated in SC, nature abhors a vacuum. Here, the party just assumed that the Republican voters of Delaware would just go along with their fellow country club member Castle. If anything the guy was worse than Snowe or Collins, if that’s imaginable.

It just reached a point where I couldn’t pull the lever one more time for the guy. If it’s any consolation to anyone, I think the guy was going to be out in 4 years anyway - he’s had serious health issues and would be approaching 80 in the next election. No loss whatsoever. It wasn’t Rove, no matter how crass and contrary he acted. It was the elitists who run the state GOP.


124 posted on 11/04/2010 6:43:55 AM PDT by Scoutdad
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To: indylindy
The quality or lack of it in NO way justifies Rove’s childish outbursts. He should of kept his mouth shut with the negative stuff and/or tried to help. He would be the magnificent b#stard again here on FR if he had drug CoD across the finish line in a win. Instead he showed how second rate and narrow minded he is.
125 posted on 11/04/2010 6:46:09 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: Keith in Iowa
KARL ROVE could have shut up and said nothing after the primary.

Yes. But Karl Rove could not keep her from totally wasting the opportunity to explain that the PHRASE "separation of church and state" is not in the constitution and how it is an example of how liberals warp the Constitution.

Karl Rove could not stop her from making that idiotic "I'm You" and not-a-witch detour.

The "Karl Rove is a demon" talk around here is indistinguishable from DU posts.

Wow. Imagine if Castle had won and Joe Miller had that money instead to use against the crooks in Alaska.

                                 RECEIPTS         SPENT            REMAINS        DEBT
COONS, CHRISTOPHER A	SEN	$3,294,824	$2,337,312	$957,512	$250,000	10/13/2010
O'DONNELL, CHRISTINE	SEN	$4,924,506	$3,555,003	$1,360,328	$247,613	10/13/2010

MILLER, JOSEPH W	SEN	$1,980,296	$1,331,859	$647,934	$341	10/13/2010 
MURKOWSKI, LISA	        SEN	$3,416,929	$3,005,107	$773,826	$0	10/13/2010

126 posted on 11/04/2010 6:47:00 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: A.Hun

True. And now take a look at the numbers in #126 for “opportunity cost.”


127 posted on 11/04/2010 6:48:41 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

KARL ROVE IS AN ESTABLISHMENT FIRST REPUBLICAN, NOT A SUPPORTER OF CONSERVATIVES.

That’s the real bottom line.


128 posted on 11/04/2010 6:49:46 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: motor_racer

“The Stupid Party” is a polite term for Democrat butt boys/ girls.


129 posted on 11/04/2010 6:52:53 AM PDT by sport
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To: ilovesarah2012

He did win.


130 posted on 11/04/2010 6:55:18 AM PDT by FrankR (STOP Obamacare, or we'll vote you outta' here....)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Rove had a temper tantrum when his candidate lost...and broke the 11th Commandment...on TV!

He has even less influence on me today than he did before he went off on O'Donnell...on TV!

Rove showed how extremely immature he is when he doesn't get his way. Wonder if this is why he is recently divorced?

Rove needs to grow up!

131 posted on 11/04/2010 6:59:24 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: sam_paine

Conservatives wanted to make a statement, Rove wanted to win.

We needed the win more.


132 posted on 11/04/2010 7:00:25 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Look, I am not defending Rove or his emotional outbursts upon hearing COD won the primary. It was out of character for a guy who is usually self controlled.

I was ticked at him and Dana Perrino. He didn't have to like it, but he should have kept a lid on it.

All I am saying is that supposedly voters in Delaware were familiar with COD.

If you look at my previous post upthread, you will see that COD had some very real problems.

Actually, if Rove would have kept quiet, she may not have gotten all that campaign cash that poured in as a result.

I also find it odd that Palin never showed back up in Delaware, even though people were anxiously awaiting her appearance the other day. She did say she would go there and help her after the primary.

133 posted on 11/04/2010 7:01:41 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

It’s not as if Delaware was the only example of Republican turpitude in this election.

In Florida, their candidate was Charlie Crist, until the grassroots folks pulverized him.

In Alaska, their candidates was Lisa Murkowski. ‘Nuff said.

In Illinois their candidate was pro-abort, pro-homosexual leftist Mark Kirk.

In Kentucky their favorite was former Bill Clinton supporter Trey Grayson.

Etc.

Wake up conservatives. Too many of you are still snoring, or at least too groggy to think straight.


134 posted on 11/04/2010 7:09:16 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The credit goes to the citizens. So does the blame. That's the price of being the sovereign.)
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To: A.Hun
instead of blaming Karl Rove

I think there are at least two issues being discussed here.

1. He caused O'Donnell to lose. Probably not, AFAIC.

2. Rather than suck it up and take a loss stoically he decided to diss the candidate, IOW, doing the democrat's work for them. He did do that AFAIC.

Because of #2, I wouldn't consider him a person I'd want on my side. Knowledge is good, but wisdom, i.e. knowing when to STFU, is a prerequisite for using the knowledge effectively.

135 posted on 11/04/2010 7:11:43 AM PDT by longjack
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To: lonestar
What a joke...FReepers trash Repubs everyday (you know, RINOs). Invoking Reagan's 11th is ridiculous nowadays on this forum. Mention GWB and see how many Bush bashers show up!

I agree that he was angry...that was obvious. I wish he had not let his emotions get the better of him, but we all make mistakes. Even Karl Rove.

However, O'Donnell losing was not his fault, and Rove raised and spent large sums of money for Repubs..conservatives and RINOs alike. Rove is a good guy.

Open Secrets American Crossroads

136 posted on 11/04/2010 7:17:49 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: longjack

See #136.

Rove helped keep Al Gore and John Kerry out of the WH, while adding House and Senate seats in 2000, 2002, and 2004.

I’m glad he’s on our side.


137 posted on 11/04/2010 7:20:43 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Carley
No amount of money could undo Rove’s assault on primary election night.

I did not nor will I give one cent to the RNC.

I decide which candidate gets my money.

138 posted on 11/04/2010 7:22:41 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: A.Hun
I agree that he was angry...that was obvious. I wish he had not let his emotions get the better of him...

I might buy that if he only did that once but that's not the case he continued his attacks multiple times. I would expect that from the democrats not someone in the Republican party. It appears now he's going to try the same thing with Sarah Palin. You're a fool Rove. That's a battle you'll never win.

139 posted on 11/04/2010 7:23:32 AM PDT by McGruff (A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs)
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To: libbylu

So true and lets don’t leave Charles Krauthammer totally out of this equation either. He didn’t make any personal attacks on O’Donnell but he was just as negative on her as Rove. The two of them are largely responsible for her losing as is the RNC who did not back her sufficiently. Shame on all of them.


140 posted on 11/04/2010 7:25:59 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2
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