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Republicans ponder big loss in California
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/4/10 | Joe Garofoli,John Wildermuth, Chronicle Staff Writers

Posted on 11/04/2010 11:25:19 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: SmithL

Could it be that most of the producers fled the state a long time ago?


41 posted on 11/04/2010 11:38:33 AM PDT by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: Osage Orange

Yeah, I don’t listen to them that much, especially now. I would flip over during commercial time on Hewitt’s show
and there they’d be, bashing Whitman. At least Whitman
had the guts to go on their show, Brown didnt.


42 posted on 11/04/2010 11:38:49 AM PDT by psjones (u)
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To: SmithL

California Republicans, American TeaParty supporters and Republicans in general should consider themselves fortunate that they will have no fingerprints on the fiscal disaster squarely ahead of the Moocher Republic. Sacramento, with its incestuous relationship with the public employees unions, has run out of fraudulent accounting tricks and will soon be in a full court press asking citizens in the sister states to make her whole. Let them suffer the consequences.


43 posted on 11/04/2010 11:39:22 AM PDT by dogcaller
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To: Question Liberal Authority

Same product.

Different label.


44 posted on 11/04/2010 11:39:31 AM PDT by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: Cicero
Well I remember Arnold Arnold Arnold got zero help from Republicans, conservatives or anyone else in that first big election that was against the unions.
He originally took a stand and non-Democrats punked out IMO, there was no ground swell of conservatives voting.
It was so bad that parental notification of your little girl getting an abortion didn't pass.

So though I loathe Arnold in general, he originally tried and everyone punked out.
After that he got along, which I did not like.

46 posted on 11/04/2010 11:40:24 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: mojito

“I think we’re perilously close to this situation in Oregon and Washington too”

That’s because all the nuts who destroyed CA are moving to these states. And they are bringing their state destroying ideas with them.


47 posted on 11/04/2010 11:41:01 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Question Liberal Authority

Since when are people looking to shrink government, balance budgets and looking to make a state business friendly put into an extreme anything category?


48 posted on 11/04/2010 11:42:19 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SmithL

In another thread Fox business news was talking about the Build America bonds which have become a source of state funding especially in Cali. Cali can’t borrow money on their own but these bonds have an interest guarantee by DC where the Feds pay 35% of the interest on the bond. This year Cali used these bonds for roughly 30% of the revenue side of their budget. Also a lot of bailout money has found it’s way to certain states to halp them in the short term.

California jumped from the frying pan into the fire on tuesday. They’re going to eventually default and this new congress will not be there with a bailout. Not a good place to be.


49 posted on 11/04/2010 11:42:55 AM PDT by bereanway (I'd rather have 40 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters)
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To: tennmountainman
That’s because all the nuts who destroyed CA are moving to these states. And they are bringing their state destroying ideas with them.

Lemmings always rush to the sea before committing mass suicide.

50 posted on 11/04/2010 11:43:25 AM PDT by stripes1776
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Your analysis is correct. As long as politicians take from producers and give to those who vote for them, the ballot box cannot rectify the problem.


51 posted on 11/04/2010 11:44:52 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: SmithL

The Republican Party, rather than standing up for what is right and best for California, runs as the liberal lite party, and the people choose the real thing.


52 posted on 11/04/2010 11:45:25 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Persevero

Advent of Motor Voter eased the way for registration of many illegals.


53 posted on 11/04/2010 11:45:40 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: SmithL
It's going to get worse before it gets better.

1. Republicans who can see the looming disaster should either pull an Ellis Wyatt & move to Colorado (or elsewhere)

2. Pull a John Galt & take menial jobs to minimize their contribution in services and taxes to the corrupt state government hence hastening the collapse.

3. Or, if real hardcore, drop out and join the mooching which should even further hasten the collapse.

54 posted on 11/04/2010 11:45:47 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: Fishtalk

We got to get rid of Rove

Rove holds no public offce, so how do you propose to ‘get rid of him’? Gonna put a green light on him?


55 posted on 11/04/2010 11:46:29 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: bereanway
California jumped from the frying pan into the fire on tuesday. They’re going to eventually default and this new congress will not be there with a bailout. Not a good place to be.

I think you are right about that. It will be interesting to see how things unfold over the next two years.

56 posted on 11/04/2010 11:47:01 AM PDT by stripes1776
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To: jwalsh07
What’s to ponder? Republicans can not win national elections n California. It’s a money pit. Let nature take it’s course.

Nature's course could be 10-20 years. I wish they could go bankrupt today, but it won't happen so quickly.

Also, I very much fear that either Washington WILL bail them out, or they will take the USA down with themselves.

57 posted on 11/04/2010 11:47:09 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: mojito

“From Mark Steyn:..........

Precisely right, and well stated as is always the case w/Mark Steyn.

CA will just have to be kept around as an example of what happens when the tipping point is reached. CA will just have to go on its merry way towards whatever failing, bankrupt end it wanders off into. And as such, it will become a paradigm of socialistic and welfare state decay. And that’s that.

I live here, I hate it. But I can no longer lament it. I will move. Simple.


58 posted on 11/04/2010 11:49:03 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ("No longer can we make no mistake for too long". Barack d****it 0bama, 2009, 2010, 2011.)
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To: A CA Guy

In addition to the facts you mentioned, I’d guess that in CA many of the wealthier areas (for example San Francisco) also vote heavily Democratic. If they ever get tired of eve-higher taxes, the GOP may stand a chance. Why that has not happened already I don’t know.


59 posted on 11/04/2010 11:49:33 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: SmithL

Producers ought to weigh, very carefully, the option of leaving the state altogether.

No producers, no state income.

No state income, no funds for the mess of bureaucracy and social machinations that have put the state in the mess in the first place.

Let it become a place of poverty, and let those producers who remain, who thereby cast their vote for the ideas of the majority and the mess that’s been created, shoulder the entire load.

It’s a hard choice, yes. It’s a beautiful state, yes. I don’t see any other way out for CA at this point, however.


60 posted on 11/04/2010 11:50:04 AM PDT by Lexinom
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