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1 posted on 11/04/2010 11:25:23 AM PDT by SmithL
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We have ten percent of the USA population and over a third of the USA welfare. So we have 330% of normal regarding people on the welfare dole. That is a Democrat vote.

Then you have the largest government employee union base in the country that easily out spend Whitman. They always send hundreds of millions into campaigns and buy lots of ads making emotional pleas that especially the women in our state fall for every time.

I think there is a built in automatic 39% of the vote from all the people on welfare or workfare with the government, so when there is an election, all the Democrats have to do is get 11% +1 vote. The others have to get 50% + 1 vote.

The stupidity or selfishness of the voters here almost outshine the illegal immigration problems of the state.

You have people here that vote the demise of business here and are willing to vote themselves higher taxes.
Now IMO the votes like that are from people who don't make money. As more and more leave the state that do have money, the pain will work it's way down IMO and the people of the dole will have their hands out all the way down to the dust IMO.

29 posted on 11/04/2010 11:36:08 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Commufornia is a lost cause. May it die a slow agonizing death. Oh wait! That is what’s happening. Beam me up Moonbeam.......


31 posted on 11/04/2010 11:37:18 AM PDT by animal172 (Where are you America?)
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Look at the leadership of the Republican party in California. These are Democrats in Republican clothing. The stink you smell is the foul stench of power-hungry, self-serving, elitist who have infested the once great party that Ronald Reagan called home. Its time to take the trash out!!!!!!
33 posted on 11/04/2010 11:37:29 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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Next time there’s a wave, California conservatives need to run a conservative Hispanic.


35 posted on 11/04/2010 11:37:35 AM PDT by xzins (Freep-a-thon--Anyone can do a min of $10, OR you must believe in welfare, cause someone pays for you)
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Ponder all you want but I knew it would fail. This is the most corrupt State in the Union. State Government and now the Governor is made up of communists like beliefs. Most of court system is corrupt. California is poised for a crash beyond belief.
40 posted on 11/04/2010 11:38:28 AM PDT by Logical me
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Could it be that most of the producers fled the state a long time ago?


41 posted on 11/04/2010 11:38:33 AM PDT by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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California Republicans, American TeaParty supporters and Republicans in general should consider themselves fortunate that they will have no fingerprints on the fiscal disaster squarely ahead of the Moocher Republic. Sacramento, with its incestuous relationship with the public employees unions, has run out of fraudulent accounting tricks and will soon be in a full court press asking citizens in the sister states to make her whole. Let them suffer the consequences.


43 posted on 11/04/2010 11:39:22 AM PDT by dogcaller
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In another thread Fox business news was talking about the Build America bonds which have become a source of state funding especially in Cali. Cali can’t borrow money on their own but these bonds have an interest guarantee by DC where the Feds pay 35% of the interest on the bond. This year Cali used these bonds for roughly 30% of the revenue side of their budget. Also a lot of bailout money has found it’s way to certain states to halp them in the short term.

California jumped from the frying pan into the fire on tuesday. They’re going to eventually default and this new congress will not be there with a bailout. Not a good place to be.


49 posted on 11/04/2010 11:42:55 AM PDT by bereanway (I'd rather have 40 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters)
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The Republican Party, rather than standing up for what is right and best for California, runs as the liberal lite party, and the people choose the real thing.


52 posted on 11/04/2010 11:45:25 AM PDT by pallis
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It's going to get worse before it gets better.

1. Republicans who can see the looming disaster should either pull an Ellis Wyatt & move to Colorado (or elsewhere)

2. Pull a John Galt & take menial jobs to minimize their contribution in services and taxes to the corrupt state government hence hastening the collapse.

3. Or, if real hardcore, drop out and join the mooching which should even further hasten the collapse.

54 posted on 11/04/2010 11:45:47 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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Producers ought to weigh, very carefully, the option of leaving the state altogether.

No producers, no state income.

No state income, no funds for the mess of bureaucracy and social machinations that have put the state in the mess in the first place.

Let it become a place of poverty, and let those producers who remain, who thereby cast their vote for the ideas of the majority and the mess that’s been created, shoulder the entire load.

It’s a hard choice, yes. It’s a beautiful state, yes. I don’t see any other way out for CA at this point, however.


60 posted on 11/04/2010 11:50:04 AM PDT by Lexinom
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I lived out there for 6 months recently...and if you know the state there is nothing to ponder...forget CA for now just wait till it crashes...moonbat brown will quickly drive it deeper and faster into the abyss....


63 posted on 11/04/2010 11:52:43 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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66 posted on 11/04/2010 11:57:36 AM PDT by pabianice
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“Republicans ponder big loss in California”

When truth becomes glaringly obvious, what is there to “ponder”?

The truth is that California has “tipped” so far towards the left, that it cannot be “righted”.

It does no good for conservatives — even if you are ten million strong — when there are twenty million leftists opposing you.

Whitman and Fiorina were milquetoast “middle-of-the-road” candidates and even they couldn’t appeal to “the California mindset”.

Prediction: we may have seen the last “Republican” (Ahh-nold) elected to statewide or national office in California (a few Congressional districts notwithstanding). But a Republican Senator from California, again? Not likely.

If anything, as California tumbles towards the abyss, we’ll see the electorate of that state grow even more leftist, blaming their financial and social “misfortunes” on conservatives, “the right”, and “big business” as they continue to elect ever-leftward-leaning candidates to office. And the “solutions” to the “problems” will become nuttier and nuttier, as taxes soar, regulations explode, and the last vestiges of business and private enterprise are driven from the state.

If you are reading this and happen to _be_ a Republican in California, the only matter to “ponder” is what you need to do to escape the place.

The longer conservatives wait to make such a move, the more it is going to cost them, both personally and professionally.

Get out while the gettin’s good!


70 posted on 11/04/2010 12:02:41 PM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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Ain't it funny - the farther to the left the CA GOP goes the worse they lose.

Go figger. Because the state party won't.

71 posted on 11/04/2010 12:03:04 PM PDT by skeeter
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“Group wants to create a new U.S. state” (Flashback):

YREKA, Calif., Oct. 5 (UPI) — Communities in northern California and southern Oregon say it’s time to create a new state — the state of Jefferson.

Proponents of the idea say they are tired of being ignored by their respective representatives in Sacramento and Salem, the San Francisco Chronicle reported Sunday...

...The Grange Hall of Yreka, Calf., is organizing an effort to collect 1 million signatures to have a statehood advisory measure put on the California ballot.

“Heck yeah, it’s a darn good idea,” said Richard Mitchell, manager of the Cooley & Pollard Hardware Store in Yreka. “Those liberal people down south don’t understand us at all, and if there was a vote today to form a new state, it would pass in a heartbeat.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/10/05/Group-wants-to-create-a-new-US-state/UPI-75661223242820/

Maybe it’s time...?


74 posted on 11/04/2010 12:07:00 PM PDT by Qbert
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And yet again, the GOP loses in CA when it runs Democrat-lite candidates. Why on earth would any voter pick a faux-Democrat when they can elect a real one?! Whitman ran as Brown-lite and lost. Fiorina ran as Boxer-lite and lost. This isn’t to say that there weren’t a few conservatives on the ballot; there were. The GOP establishment in this State, however, abandoned them just as they do every cycle. They would rather lose with a Dem-lite candidate than win with a conservative.


77 posted on 11/04/2010 12:09:42 PM PDT by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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The GOP continues not to get it. If they run RINOs they will lose because a RINO has no message for anyone, no matter how unwilling they may be.

With no message, it is just a personality contest. Gray Davis/Arnold? Of course. But Meg Whitman/MoonBeam?


78 posted on 11/04/2010 12:10:24 PM PDT by anton
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It’s very depressing.
San Diego County went pretty damn red this election but to no avail against LA and Bay area libs, it’s futile.

I don’t want to move. I love San Diego area.
I was born here. But in ten years this state could be in total ruin, it already is in many ways.

Will it correct in time?

How bad does it have to get?????

I am not hopeful here.

Someone adopt us!!!! LOL


79 posted on 11/04/2010 12:10:29 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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Many of them wondered how they missed the national wave - and differed on which direction to go next.

Nonsense. Repugnicans know exactly why they lost in Califa. No true Republican would change his conservative/libertarian positions to get elected.

Rats make the majority of Califa voters happy.

"Operant conditioning", as Dr. Skinner used to say to me while I was sweeping up. I would say back to him, "B.F.", (he asked me to call him B.F.), "I want those monkeys to like me. What if I just give them the banana?"

I'll never forget what he said.

"Bad janitor, bad! Adverse Consequences! Didn't you ever wonder why they call me B.F., when my name is Jeff?"


83 posted on 11/04/2010 12:12:12 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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